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I remember reading about Icehouse pieces years ago in Games magazine. I didn't have a chance to play any of the games, however, until I started acquiring pieces. This geeklist is a list of Icehouse games I've tried, in the order that I've tried them.

Note that I tried a couple of Icehouse games on-line, but I'm only using this list to track the ones I've played with physical pyramids.

Update feb2011: LooneyLabs is now rebranding the system to be Looney Pyramids, so I've changed the title of this list. Although I'll try to edit some of the entries, I may still sometimes refer to them as Icehouse pieces.
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1. Board Game: Treehouse [Average Rating:5.85 Overall Rank:3139]
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I started by buying one Treehouse tube, so this is the first game I tried. It seems random and not terribly fun.

I has been described as being like Fluxx with pyramids, but that's only true in some abstract way. Both games are luck driven in a way that makes planning pretty much impossible. Treehouse, however, lacks the zany chaos that makes Fluxx enjoyable.
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I agree. I love the pyramids, but this seems to me to be a game with no game in it. After a couple of plays of this, my regular gaming group decided they were not interested in Icehouse games. I hope to change that with some of the better games.
 
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2. Board Game: Moon Shot [Average Rating:5.17 Unranked]
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This is a light dexterity game. Not much here, though: Even with practice, there is only so much control you can get over where the pyramids go after you tip the stack. There really isn't any player interaction, and so not much strategy.

These aren't damning criticisms, of course, because it's only meant as an amusing diversion. And it's good for that.
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3. Board Game: Zendo [Average Rating:7.31 Overall Rank:281]
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This game is brilliant.

It requires real concentration, even moreso than an abstract strategy game. You don't really have the option of just making some moves and seeing what happens.

This is not so much a criticism as a fact about the game, but it does mean that I need to be in the right kind of mood to play the game.
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This is the only game I've rated 9. Yeah, it needs the "right crowd." but so does every game.

I'm blessed that many of my friends are the sort of people who make up the right crowd. This was the game that got me gaming with them, and as a result really got me back into hobby gaming.
 
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I agree again. A brilliant game, and a nod to the card game Eleusis.
 
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Quote:

It requires real concentration, even moreso than an abstract strategy game. You don't really have the option of just making some moves and seeing what happens.


What a strange comment.

One of my favorite tactics when I'm stuck on the solution is just to grab some random pieces, throw them together, and "see what happens".

 
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NateStraight wrote:

What a strange comment.


Here is what I had in mind: In a standard combinatorial game like chess, there are finitely many options. Some are obviously bad. If you pick arbitrarily from the rest, you can see how it plays out to get a feel for the game.

In Zendo, there are infinitely many possible koans. Making a random koan is sometimes a good strategy, as you say, but there aren't widespread consequences of the move that you can see play out. It just gets a white stone or a black stone, and next turn somebody constructs a separate koan.
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pmagnus wrote:
NateStraight wrote:

What a strange comment.


Here is what I had in mind: In a standard combinatorial game like chess, there are finitely many options. Some are obviously bad. If you pick arbitrarily from the rest, you can see how it plays out to get a feel for the game.

In Zendo, there are infinitely many possible koans. Making a random koan is sometimes a good strategy, as you say, but there aren't widespread consequences of the move that you can see play out. It just gets a white stone or a black stone, and next turn somebody constructs a separate koan.


Or maybe the game simply isn't linear.

What has no immediate consequences might turn out to be the game-breaking play late in a difficult round that allows you to solve the rule.

But, yes, I do see what you're saying now.
 
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4. Board Game: CrackeD ICE [Average Rating:5.53 Overall Rank:6027]
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Another dexterity game.

It requires a delicate touch, making it fun to watch other people take their turns. There is definitely player interaction, too, since you can place pieces in ways that are precarious so as to hose the next person.

All of the pyramid games are pretty to look at, because of the Icehouse pieces. This one especially so. The mirrored surface of the CD and the tight arrangement of pyramids looks like something out of an old science fiction movie.

We play with a variant that allows players to place pyramids either upright or flat on the platform.
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I tossed an old CD into my Icebox. Hey, it didn't take up much space, so why not?

To my surprise, it's been hugely popular with my friends.
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  • Posted Thu Mar 5, 2009 6:33 pm
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This is one I've obviously not gotten the hang of. I keep reading good things on-line about it, but whenever I play the game there are never more than a few pyramids on the CD before it topples.
 
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Try using two CDs together, this reduces the difficulty but is essentially the same game. You may want to try laying them flat and stacking once you have no more feasbile placements though.
 
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5. Board Game: Blam! [Average Rating:6.40 Overall Rank:4643]
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This one came highly recommended.

The rules are simple and easy to understand, but interact in interesting ways. For example, there's the choice between scoring points and recovering pieces.

Played this as a two-player game, but I want to try it with more.
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This one is a bit of a stretch, but Andy Looney set the precedent when he made up Martian Hold'em. His game is just poker, but with Icehouse pyramids instead of poker chips.

Magnate is a Decktet game in which players collect resources of six different types. Today my Xeno sets arrived, giving me enough colours to use pyramids as the resource tokens. So today we played Martian Magnate.

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Are the colours right for this?
 
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Jugular wrote:
Are the colours right for this?


Almost. ninja You need the five Rainbow colours plus orange pyramids, and you need to pretend that red pyramids are brown.

My game Ziggurat Demolition Throwdown works better. Since the red pyramids are almost but not quite brown and also almost but not quite orange, in ZDT the reds correspond to both Leaves and Suns.
 
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7. Board Game: Logger [Average Rating:7.10 Unranked]
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Played two-player and lost.

It took us a while to realize the power of protesters, but for the last turn I was sandwiched in place between protester-filled trees while my opponent was free to score the winning chop.
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We've found that depending on the layout of the forest, protesters are either vital or don't get used at all. They're good to have in hand, though.
 
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8. Board Game: Tic Tac Doh! [Average Rating:5.66 Overall Rank:5845]
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This was quick playing but interesting. Unlike old school tic-tac-toe, Doh! doesn't degenerate into an inevitable draw. The end game requires some thought and consideration.

Yet it is certainly solvable. With complex but theoretically solvable games like chess, nobody can actually implement the perfect game. Tic Tac Doh! is simple enough, though, that I think an informed player could learn the relevant patterns. Then the one player would always win, whichever of first or second is determined to have a winning strategy by the structure of the game.
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As a strange aside: The pictures of this game in the database don't depict it being played according to the rules. The representative image shows the game played on the corner of a chessboard, but the 3x3 grid is supposed to emerge during play; e.g., the first piece played is only in the center if subsequent pieces are played on both sides of it. The other image shows a 1-pip on top of a 3-pip pyramid and a 3-pip on top of a 1-pip, but the rules state that you can only top a pyramid with one of the next size; so a 2 would have to go between a 1 and a 3.

I submitted two pictures of the game we played today, but they were both rejected. One was rejected for not being relevant! Maybe if we hadn't bothered to follow the rules...
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9. Board Game: Blokus [Average Rating:7.15 Overall Rank:201]
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When she first saw the pyramids, a friend of mine insisted that we should make a game that uses them together with Blokus pieces. I devised rules for such a game, and last night several of us tried it out. We played through an entire game, but decided halfway through that several rules need to be changed.

It doesn't have a name yet, but suggestions included 'Canals', 'Lockus', and 'Terminal Ice Block'.
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Have you done anything more with this? Is it on the wiki somewhere?
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  • Posted Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:55 pm
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It requires exactly four players, which isn't a combination I often have at the table. So it hasn't progressed further.
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  • Posted Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:35 pm
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Has this moved at all in the intervening time?
 
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  • Posted Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:22 pm
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Jugular wrote:
Has this moved at all in the intervening time?


I played a round at Spielbany last Spring, and it doesn't really work. There are some basic problems in the way deliveries work.
 
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10. Board Game: Twin Win [Average Rating:6.47 Overall Rank:4405]
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If you try to attain your goal directly, the other player will be able to thwart you. Yet, if you feint too much, you might just arrange the other players goal for them. The result (in the games I've played so far) is that players meander around, nudging things, until somebody gets a chance to win. It has a similar feel to Fluxx and Chrononauts in this regard.
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11. Board Game: Martian Coasters [Average Rating:6.16 Overall Rank:3063]
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Fun but light-weight. Good for when I'm in the mood for something thinking optional. Played as a 2-played game, it can easily come down to die rolls at the end.
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This is still my favorite roll-and-move Icehouse game. It satisfies the backgammon itch much better than Martian Backgammon does, and it rewards creative problem solving.
 
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12. Board Game: Black Ice [Average Rating:5.48 Unranked]
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This is a bit like Treehouse, but with an element of hidden information and bluffing. This extra aspect was enough to make the game enjoyable.

Two complaints: First, the Treehouse dice are a poor fit for this game. All of the die results are stretched, especially "Aim" which in Black Ice means "Same."

Second, this is only available in the 3House rules booklet - but I am not convinced that this game alone justifies the purchase. (The two other games in 3House are available for free on the web.)
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13. Board Game: Thin Ice [Average Rating:5.22 Overall Rank:6546]
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This is a decent stacking game. I would be more impressed if I had not already played CrackeD ICE. This game (unlike Cracked Ice) is mostly about learning specialized stacking moves that allow you to put pieces on top of one another without nesting. Cracked Ice requires a steady hand and a good eye for balance, which are easier to pick up. Plus, this game adds an explicit player elimination mechanic which can leave people on the sidelines if you start with three or more players. So I'd only play this if I didn't have a CD to use for Cracked Ice.
 
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14. Board Game: Martian Backgammon [Average Rating:6.07 Unranked]
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There is a little bit of strategy here, but not much. In our game, the player who moved first won by half a turn. It works better as a two-player game than Martian Coasters, and to fill that thinking-optional niche I might (just might) play it again.
 
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Check out a game called Crosswalk.
 
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15. Board Game: RAMbots [Average Rating:6.64 Overall Rank:3698]
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Since my wife loves RoboRally, this was the game originally convinced me to start collecting pyramids. For various reasons, it's taken us this long to try it.

I was worried that having the different colors arbitrarily associated with different powers would be confusing, but it wasn't really. The game was much tighter and competitive than two-player RoboRally. I will certainly play again.
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This is one of my favorites. I used to play RoboRally a lot, but now greatly prefer RAMbots, which is far more elegant and won't drag on for hours like RoboRally often does. I taught RAMbots to someone a couple days ago who wasn't thrilled by some other pyramid games, and he liked it so much that we ended up playing 4 games in a row.
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16. Board Game: Volcano [Average Rating:6.88 Overall Rank:1244]
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Reading the rules and considering my own predilections, I didn't expect to like this one. The packing cardboard from Small World was the perfect size for a Volcano board, though, so I decided to give it a try.

I was pleasantly surprised. I lost our first two-player game, and we both immediately wanted to play again. This is fun.

Although it's thinking intensive, this is not a game that requires looking several moves ahead. There is some strategy in the color collecting, but mostly it's a matter of making the move which scores the most for you immediately while strangling your opponent's options for their next turn.
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I don't like that Chess requires you to look several moves ahead to be good. I like that you can be reasonably good at Volcano by only looking one move ahead.
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17. Board Game: Zark City [Average Rating:6.59 Overall Rank:3952]
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I now realize that I have no ability to guess in advance whether or not I'll like a game. I was pleasantly surprised with Volcano, and have been happy to play several more times. I just tried Zark City, which I expected to like, and I'm somewhat mystified.

It took us a game to sort all the rules out, but the second game resulted in a stalemate. My opponent kept drawing to cycle cards, making attacks, and suborning my pieces. Nevertheless, I had enough pieces on the board to stop her from controlling a power block. Although she seemed to have a material advantage, it was not at all clear how she could convert into a win.

Perhaps I'm missing something, but it would take a revelation to make us try this one again. Still, there is one up side to this outcome: I don't have to find space for a deck of playing cards in my box of pyramid stuff.
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I was disappointed in this one as well. But I'm constantly informed that its older brothers, Zarcana and (particularly) Gnostica, are some of the best games with pyramids around.

...which begs the question to be answered: Have you tried Dectana yet? (Zarcana + Decktet game)
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I haven't tried Dectana yet. When I get a chance to try it, it'll go on this geeklist of pyramid games that I've tried.
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Yeah, Gnostica is well worth trying and much more interesting than Zark City.
 
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18. Board Game: IceTowers [Average Rating:6.44 Overall Rank:2189]
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This is my first try with one of the boardless, realtime pyramid games. It was less frantic and athletic than I expected it to be. Although there is some timing and 'twitch' involved, there is also a good deal of thoughtfulness and strategy.

The obvious thing is to use your 3-pip pyramids quickly but to carefully ration your 1-pip pyramids. There is also strategy in burying bigger pieces so that you'll be able to mine and split later - and that's a layer to the game I am only just beginning to reckon with.

I'd like to play this again, although I don't know if I'll have an appropriate group again anytime soon.
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This is a fantastic game. I love how this game forces gut play. Very rarely do I have a super concrete notion of exactly what I wish to do, only vague half-ideas, there's not enough time to cogitate on your every move! I also love to watch how the game eventually comes to a conclusion. It's mysterious every time. Whenever I play this with a new group, we reach that point where they don't believe that the game won't go on forever, but sure enough, it doesn't.

Rationing your 1-pip at the very start is obviously very important, but don't wait too long, it can be advantageous for a player to top your single 1-pip: nets you one less tower and gives them 2 points which certainly doesn't hurt.

One important thing to do, that you've probably already sussed, is to limit the total number of towers you're involved with. You want to make sure that you have always 2+ pieces in any major tower you're a part of, so that you can mine. This becomes especially important in the end game when players mine large pieces out of towers they don't control simply to take those points off their opponents.
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If you want frantic and athletic IceTowers, try it with Giant pyramids.
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Since the rules are quick to explain and it's fast to play, I've found I can sometimes get people to play as a filler at a game con.
 
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  • Posted Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:51 am
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19. Board Game: Dectana [Average Rating:6.50 Unranked]
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Tried this over the Summer, but forgot to add it to the list.

I played two three-player games. I can't count the first game for too much. Since none of us had played Zarcana or Gnostica before, the first game was a learning round.

In both games, two players ended up too close together and in conflict. The third player stayed above the fray to win. Would it work better with an even number of players?

Given the number of turns required to set up and then carry out an attack, defensive arrangements seemed effectively impregnable. Perhaps more experienced players would have attacked before defenders got into position. I'm not sure.
 
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20. Board Game: Drip [Average Rating:5.18 Unranked]
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Tried this one after a game of CrackeD ICE, when people still wanted to play with the pyramids but didn't want to do any thinking. There was more game here than I expected. There is both luck and dexterity involved in making a drop well, and sometimes they stick in ways that look impossible. Although there is player elimination, it only happens when the game is nearly over.

This one doesn't justify getting out the pyramids - and it won't be possible at all with the new packaging - but it is a game I would play again. Quick, fun, and a bit madcap.
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21. Board Game: IceDice [Average Rating:6.72 Overall Rank:4168]
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A decent press-your-luck game. Unlike some games in the genre, I think a slow-and-steady approach strongly dominates over recklessness.

It's decent, and I'd play it again.
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22. Board Game: Ziggurat Demolition Throwdown [Average Rating:0.00 Unranked]
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This is one of my own designs. It's sort of a reimplementation of Cosmic Tilt, using pyramids and the Decktet. Pyramids of different colours correspond to different basic powers, which allow you to play matching cards either for attack or defense.

It's at a stable point, but it needs to be played more.
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Subhan Michael Tindall
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I'd suggest you give Blam! a shot - it's one of my favorite abstracts. 2P has some surprisingly deep strategy to it, 3-4P is fun but pretty chaotic.
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  • Posted Thu Mar 5, 2009 12:37 am
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I would do all the things I have ever dreamed of doing. I would love to become a professional whistler.I'm pretty amazing at it now, but I wanna get, like, even better. Make my living out of it.
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My favorites aside from Zendo which you've already listed are: Pikemen, Logger, Binary Homeworlds, Volcano, Zark City, & Pylon.
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Give Tic Tac Doh! a try. It and Quarto! are my current favorites for "best x-in-row game." Quarto is prettier IMO, but Tic Tac Doh! only needs a single Treehouse set and no board.
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  • Posted Thu Mar 5, 2009 6:39 pm
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Welcome aboard - the first one's free (or in this case, four . . .)
 
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  • Posted Fri Mar 6, 2009 1:19 am
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bapadget wrote:
Give Tic Tac Doh! a try. It and Quarto! are my current favorites for "best x-in-row game." Quarto is prettier IMO, but Tic Tac Doh! only needs a single Treehouse set and no board.


Quarto's a beautiful game, but you can play it passably well with three stashes of colours of Icehouse: Use two clear colours and then black. Half the "pieces" are one colour, half the other. Half are 3-pip, half are 2-pip. Half have a smaller black piece nested inside, half do not. And finally, half have are wearing hats (1-pip pieces in the colour of the piece). These attributes are distributed in such a way that every piece is unique -- in the fashion you're no doubt familiar with having played Quarto.

It's a little more finicky than Quarto because you must be careful to pick up the black nested pieces when selecting your opponent's piece, but it works surprisingly well... and it sure beats lugging a heavy (albeit beautiful) wooden Quarto set around.
 
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