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Instructions (you WILL need to read them):

The first five items on this list are five choices between two famous games. Each choice will result in a score which you must add to a running total (beginning at zero). The running total may go negative so be careful of your arithmetic! Get a pen and paper if you need it ...

At the end (item 6) you will get instructions on what to do next, which will result in two lists of games: one list will be the games which are under-rated on BGG and you should consider giving them a go (given your preferences in the five choices) and the other list will be the games which are over-rated, and you should avoid them.

The results are based on average ratings on BGG. Obviously the thing is not infallible - there will be games on each list which you totally disagree with - but hopefully not too many!

Remember, the games in each list are NOT meant to be the best games, but the games which are better (or worse) than the BGG averages indicate. They may still suck, just not as much as you thought.

Anyway, hopefully you might discover some games to try which you had not considered before!

Note 1: the pictures of the games in the recommendations items are kind of irrelevant - I just picked a game near the top of the list

Note 2: there are TWO games called Axis & Allies and both appear on some of the lists. This is not an error.

Note 3: want MORE game recommendations? Try my other great list:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/31608

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1. Board Game: The Settlers of Catan [Average Rating:7.51 Overall Rank:78]
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Settlers vs Carcassonne

If you like Settlers better, add 14.5
If you like Carcassonne better, subtract 14.5

 
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What if I think they are both equally overhyped mediocre games?
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generalpf wrote:
Obviously this list is not for you and your exquisitely refined taste in boardgames.

Thank you for reminding me of my exquisitely refined taste.
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Barticus88 wrote:
generalpf wrote:
Obviously this list is not for you and your exquisitely refined taste in boardgames.

Thank you for reminding me of my exquisitely refined taste.


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Barticus88 wrote:
What if I think they are both equally overhyped mediocre games?




Pretty much what I was thinking - thought this would
be something which covered the gamut of games, yet it
seems to be entirely tailored to a segment of gaming
which I've always viewed as fluff and filler.
 
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Both are great games. Where is my thumbs down for the previous poster - looking frantically at the interface. They are perfect for families, couples (Carcassonne), new and old gamers, teenagers etc etc. Obviously a gaming collection needs both not one or the other.
 
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2. Board Game: Agricola [Average Rating:8.25 Overall Rank:2]
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Agricola vs Le Havre

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3. Board Game: Dominion [Average Rating:7.96 Overall Rank:10]
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Dominion vs Race For The Galaxy

If you like Dominion better, add 2
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Agonizing... cry
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Don't realy like either one.
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4. Board Game: Puerto Rico [Average Rating:8.26 Overall Rank:3]
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Puerto Rico vs Caylus

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5. Board Game: Power Grid [Average Rating:8.09 Overall Rank:5]
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Power Grid vs Tigris & Euphrates

If you like Power Grid better, add 4
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What if I've never played one of the two games? I'll try it by not including a sum for this one. I strongly believe PG would be my pick, so I'll try it that way too. Then, I'll try it the other way, in hopes that I end up liking T&E better than PG (because who wouldn't want to find a game they like better than one of their favorite games)? Also, if I end up being able to choose T&E, I can be all snobby and say things like "People who chose the subtraction option for each choice are clearly very high class gamers," and similar obnoxious comments. A smiley probably belongs here to denote sarcasm, but I am far too snobbish to use smileys. Wash, rinse, repeat...
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6. Board Game: Go [Average Rating:7.77 Overall Rank:40]
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OK, now its time to GO to your results.

First, remember your total? It will be somewhere between 7 and 22, with a positive or negative sign.

Ignore the sign for the moment, so your total is between 7 and 22.

Go to the item on this list with that number (the picture of the game for the item is kind of irrelevant - I just picked a game near the top of the list)

You will see two columns of games (plus a summary of your choices at the top).

If your sign was positive, look at the LEFT column for the games you should try and the RIGHT column for the games you should avoid.

If your sign was negative, look at the RIGHT column for the games you should try and the LEFT column for the games you should avoid.

GO GO GO!
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7. Board Game: Hera and Zeus [Average Rating:6.57 Overall Rank:747]
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The Settlers of Catan > Carcassonne | The Settlers of Catan < Carcassonne
Agricola < Le Havre | Agricola > Le Havre
Dominion < Race for the Galaxy | Dominion > Race for the Galaxy
Puerto Rico < Caylus | Puerto Rico > Caylus
Power Grid < Tigris & Euphrates | Power Grid > Tigris & Euphrates
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Hera and Zeus | Ticket to Ride: USA 1910
Blue Moon | Small World
Entdecker | Battlestar Galactica
Chess | Stone Age
Axis & Allies | Space Alert
Axis & Allies | Pandemic
PÃœNCT | Through the Ages: A Story of Civili
Magna Grecia | Ticket to Ride: Switzerland
Pizarro & Co. | Ticket to Ride
Sleuth | Memoir '44
Elasund: The First City of Catan | Arkham Horror
Quo Vadis? | Ticket to Ride: Europe
Poker | Descent: Journeys in the Dark
Gheos | Formula D
Rheinländer | Ticket to Ride: Nordic Countries
Diplomacy | 1960: The Making of the President
Condottiere | Galaxy Trucker
Dos Rios | Advanced Civilization
Basari | Railroad Tycoon
Spades | BattleLore
Augsburg 1520 | Commands & Colors: Ancients
Khet: The Laser Game | Snow Tails
The Settlers of the Stone Age | Crokinole
El Caballero | Carcassonne: Hunters and Gatherers
Il Principe | Kingsburg
Dungeon Twister | Vegas Showdown
Mykerinos | Chicago Express
Marracash | Ticket to Ride: Märklin Edition
Goldland | Carcassonne: The City
Palazzo | Saint Petersburg
Circus Flohcati | Thebes
StreetSoccer | Zooloretto
Clans | Alhambra
Niagara | Vikings
Medici vs Strozzi | Thurn and Taxis
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On the surface, your system works quite well for me! This is my category, preferring the RH column.

I've rated 4 games in the LH column, with an average of 5.5.
I've rated 17 games in the RH column, with an average of 6.8.

I'd be interested in hearing from someone whose preferences are for the LH column tho... Looks to me like the games in the RH column are generally rated quite a bit higher by BGG as a whole.

Exception in the LH column: StreetSoccer is a great game, I rate it 8.
Exception in the RH column: Stone Age is junk, I rate it 4.

Interesting that both of these exceptions have a lot to do with theme - the mechanics of StreetSoccer are so smooth and simple that it almost plays like an abstract, but I like it because it really manages to pull off the theme. On the other hand, a big part of why I don't like Stone Age is the pathetic theme integration.
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Impressive! meeple

Settlers vs. Carc and PR vs. Caylus could have gone either way for me, but this list looks like the closest match. I've played (and enjoyed/rated highly) nearly half of the games listed in the right column, but have played only four or five from the left column. Not only that, but of the RH games that I haven't played there are several that I'd like to, but on the LH there's almost nothing (not that I'd be opposed to trying a number of them, but nothing stands out as a "must play").
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Oh dear, a complete fail for me. All the games I adore are in the right hand column which I should 'avoid' according to this.

The left hand column includes games I completely detest - you even have my all time worst game printed twice in it. gulp Axis and Allies. yuk
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Works for me, although I've only played 3 of the 10 games I guessed which ones I'd like more.

LH - 2 games, average 7

RH - 9 games, average 9

And I agree with Jonathan on Streetsoccer, even if I haven't played it F2F I've played it online and really enjoy it.

 
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8. Board Game: Lord of the Rings: The Confrontation [Average Rating:7.28 Overall Rank:167]
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The Settlers of Catan > Carcassonne | The Settlers of Catan < Carcassonne
Agricola > Le Havre | Agricola < Le Havre
Dominion < Race for the Galaxy | Dominion > Race for the Galaxy
Puerto Rico < Caylus | Puerto Rico > Caylus
Power Grid < Tigris & Euphrates | Power Grid > Tigris & Euphrates
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Lord of the Rings: The Confrontatio | Small World
Go | Stone Age
War of the Ring | Ticket to Ride: USA 1910
Blue Moon | Snow Tails
Modern Art | Battlestar Galactica
Through the Desert | Chicago Express
Hera and Zeus | Formula D
Diplomacy | Space Alert
Chess | Ticket to Ride: Switzerland
Reef Encounter | Carcassonne: Hunters and Gatherers
Samurai | Through the Ages: A Story of Civili
Hannibal: Rome vs. Carthage | Ticket to Ride
The Princes of Florence | Ticket to Ride: Nordic Countries
Bridge | Arkham Horror
El Grande | Talisman 4th Edition
Taj Mahal | Alhambra
Mykerinos | TransAmerica
Age of Steam | Saint Petersburg
Lord of the Rings | Pandemic
Colossal Arena | Diamonds Club
Vinci | Brass
Löwenherz | Tinners' Trail
Kremlin | Union Pacific
Ra | Carcassonne: The City
Factory Fun | Kingsburg
Mystery Rummy: Jack the Ripper | Vikings
Lost Valley | Cuba
Dungeon Twister | Thurn and Taxis
Axis & Allies | Ticket to Ride: Europe
PÃœNCT | Qwirkle
Starship Catan | Descent: Journeys in the Dark
Elasund: The First City of Catan | Zooloretto
Sleuth | Wings of War - Famous Aces
Amun-Re | Merchants of Amsterdam
Domaine | Oasis
 
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I'm on the right hand column in this and I have to say that of what I've played I agree...except for one glaring error. I HATE Chicago Express.

One other thing...why would Vinci be in one column and Small World in the other? Aren't they "essentially" the same game? Just curious.

Thanks for doing this.

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Not really, i liked Vinci, more about the game as a civ building exercise, where the different types of civ's are at least plausible.

Small World I didn't like, it's the same basis but with the emphasis on the races to make it fantasy themed, where the races have special powers and stuff.

I think they would definitely be polar sides of this sort of comparison.
 
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This didn't work for me. I'm supposed to like the right-hand column, but it includes several games I hate.
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I'mon the right hand column also but thankfully that column has a far better selection than on the left!
 
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9. Board Game: Stone Age [Average Rating:7.72 Overall Rank:26]
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The Settlers of Catan > Carcassonne | The Settlers of Catan < Carcassonne
Agricola < Le Havre | Agricola > Le Havre
Dominion < Race for the Galaxy | Dominion > Race for the Galaxy
Puerto Rico > Caylus | Puerto Rico < Caylus
Power Grid < Tigris & Euphrates | Power Grid > Tigris & Euphrates
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Lord of the Rings: The Confrontatio | Stone Age
Blue Moon | Ticket to Ride: USA 1910
Go | Small World
Basari | Railroad Tycoon
The Settlers of the Stone Age | Ticket to Ride: Nordic Countries
Battle Cry | Kingsburg
Modern Art | Galaxy Trucker
Hannibal: Rome vs. Carthage | Battlestar Galactica
Chess | Vikings
Diplomacy | Saint Petersburg
Paths of Glory | Through the Ages: A Story of Civili
Lord of the Rings | Formula D
Hera and Zeus | Pandemic
Dune | Ticket to Ride: Europe
StreetSoccer | Space Alert
High Society | Descent: Journeys in the Dark
Hoity Toity | Ticket to Ride: Switzerland
Mare Nostrum | Shogun
Mü & More | Arkham Horror
Quo Vadis? | Thurn and Taxis
Spades | Cosmic Encounter
Bridge | Metropolys
Entdecker | Zooloretto
Netrunner | Yspahan
Goldland | Carcassonne: The City
Sleuth | Shadows over Camelot
Stephenson's Rocket | The Pillars of the Earth
Starfarers of Catan | 1960: The Making of the President
Wyatt Earp | Cosmic Encounter
Mystery Rummy: Jack the Ripper | Tikal
Starship Catan | Cuba
Doom: The Boardgame | Age of Empires III: The Age of Disc
Taj Mahal | BattleLore
Entdecker: Exploring New Horizons | Formula Dé
Magna Grecia | Mr. Jack
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Fascinating. Is the order of the list important as well?
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Impressive. My score was -9. The games on the right are ones that I enjoy all the time, the left not so much. Great job!
 
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I am a -9 as well. And at first blush, the list on the right looks great as I enjoy most of those games and like to play them regularly.

But there are just as many games on the right that I despise as there are games on the left that I love. And the games on the left that I love, I love as much, if not slightly more, than most of the games on the right.

About the only thing consistent between the lists is of the games I have NOT played, the ones on the right are the ones I have researched the most and the ones on the left were not on my radar.

Maybe I screwed up my score when I said I liked Agricola better even though I never played Le Havre.
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excellent, my -9 score has me looking at other games I enjoy and the other column has games that I have sold/traded away!
 
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10. Board Game: War of the Ring [Average Rating:7.92 Overall Rank:16]
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The Settlers of Catan > Carcassonne | The Settlers of Catan < Carcassonne
Agricola > Le Havre | Agricola < Le Havre
Dominion < Race for the Galaxy | Dominion > Race for the Galaxy
Puerto Rico > Caylus | Puerto Rico < Caylus
Power Grid < Tigris & Euphrates | Power Grid > Tigris & Euphrates
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Lord of the Rings: The Confrontatio | Axis & Allies
War of the Ring | Stone Age
Go | Axis & Allies
Hannibal: Rome vs. Carthage | TransAmerica
Paths of Glory | Masons
Twilight Struggle | Metropolys
Lord of the Rings - The Confrontati | Talisman 4th Edition
Ra | Shear Panic
Bridge | The Hanging Gardens
Combat Commander: Europe | Saint Petersburg
Hammer of the Scots | Cuba
Commands & Colors: Ancients | Vikings
Modern Art | Oregon
Lord of the Rings | Il Principe
Advanced Civilization | Hermagor
Blue Moon | World of Warcraft: The Boardgame
Dune | Qwirkle
Twilight Imperium 3rd Edition | Manila
Taj Mahal | Ys
Crokinole | Himalaya
Battle Line | Chicago Express
Samurai | Merchants of Amsterdam
Through the Desert | Kingdoms
YINSH | Tinners' Trail
The Princes of Florence | Kingsburg
Diplomacy | Tempus
Space Hulk | Manhattan
Starship Catan | Diamonds Club
El Grande | Funny Friends
Schotten-Totten | Pick Picknic
Netrunner | Rosenkönig
Blood Bowl - Third Edition | Darjeeling
Löwenherz | Oasis
Fury of Dracula | Snow Tails
Battle Cry | Wasabi!
 
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The result I got was pretty interesting, at least in my opinion, because a vast majority of games on the left I played and enjoyed, but I've only played two games on the right (Ys and Himalaya) and I absolutely loved them! Though, interestingly enough, I had no interest in most of the rest except Tinner's Trail because my group has a lot of Wallace fans (And I suspect I'll enjoy it as well) and Kingsburg because again a lot of people are playing that in my group right now.

I also want to play the World of Warcraft boardgame, not because I think it'll be one of my favorite games, but I play the MMO and am pretty curious to see how the board game turns out.
 
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Fascinating! Mostly accurate, I did enjoy Tempus on the right, and Axis and Allies, but really have almost no interest in the rest of those games. On the left are some of my all time favorites.
 
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Interesting result. Of the 70 games listed I have not got 13 on the left and 8 on the right. My result? -10
 
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Very good. I have played 8 games on the left and enjoy them all. The only game on the right I've played (Axis & Allies) I don't like nearly as well.
 
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11. Board Game: Poker [Average Rating:6.77 Overall Rank:470]
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Agricola < Le Havre | Agricola > Le Havre
Dominion > Race for the Galaxy | Dominion < Race for the Galaxy
Puerto Rico < Caylus | Puerto Rico > Caylus
Power Grid < Tigris & Euphrates | Power Grid > Tigris & Euphrates
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Poker | Ticket to Ride: USA 1910
Axis & Allies | Arkham Horror
Axis & Allies | Battlestar Galactica
Augsburg 1520 | Small World
Chess | Twilight Struggle
Rheinländer | Space Alert
Pizarro & Co. | Galaxy Trucker
Shark | Pandemic
Diplomacy | 1960: The Making of the President
Entdecker | War of the Ring
Löwenherz | Through the Ages: A Story of Civili
Hera and Zeus | Commands & Colors: Ancients
Elasund: The First City of Catan | Ticket to Ride: Switzerland
PÃœNCT | Advanced Civilization
Clans | BattleLore
Condottiere | Ticket to Ride: Europe
Manhattan | Descent: Journeys in the Dark
Circus Flohcati | Railroad Tycoon
Il Principe | Formula D
Quo Vadis? | Combat Commander: Europe
Lifeboats | Ticket to Ride
I'm the Boss | Vegas Showdown
Flaschenteufel | Twilight Imperium 3rd Edition
Magna Grecia | StarCraft: The Board Game
Palazzo | Ticket to Ride: Nordic Countries
Kremlin | Memoir '44
Dos Rios | Paths of Glory
Die Händler | Zooloretto
Basari | Stone Age
Verräter | Age of Empires III: The Age of Disc
Jungle Speed | Thebes
WildLife | Carcassonne: Hunters and Gatherers
The Settlers of the Stone Age | Chicago Express
Medici vs Strozzi | Hammer of the Scots
Kingdoms | Shadows over Camelot
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I ended up on the right-hand side of this one first time around. Problem is, some of the ones I am basing it on has to go with where I think my interests lie. Example, I've played T&E a couple of times. I like it, but Power grid, which I haven't played yet interests me more. Both Agricola and Le Havre interest me, but Agricola more ot the point I bought it, but it hasn't yet hit the table.

So what I did is change the PowerGrid to T&E and I get to #19, which feels more like what I like. But then, El Grande (#12) left hand side is where I feel my heart truly is with the exception of Magic being in there.
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I had to guess my way through some of the unplayed choices to get here. So it's hard to say if this worked perfectly. But I'm sure the right side is more my style.

I've only played 5 games on the right; and two of those are Poker and Chess. I didn't like Jungle Speed; Basari was good (though I wasn't good at it); Kingdoms was okay but mathy.

I've played and enjoyed 8 games on the right side; but 5 of those are Ticket to Ride games. The right does have several games on my radar though.

I guess I just need to play more games.
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Hmmm, recommendations list seems potentially good. I base this on the fact that I've played (and enjoyed) 17 of my recommended games already! I've only ever played 4 of the games on my 'avoid' list and I pretty much think they're average or just below. So yeah, guess I'll have to check out some of those other recommendations.
 
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Pretty good! The right side correctly includes many games I like and play a lot: Ticket to Ride, Command & Colors, Combat Commander, Age of Empires III. The left side correctly leaves me cold, except for Diplomacy and Entdecker.
 
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No chess or A&A shake

I like TtR alright but really that much of it? Battlelore, Memoir & Starcraft were so, so. I can take or leave Pandemic.
 
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12. Board Game: El Grande [Average Rating:7.89 Overall Rank:14]
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The Settlers of Catan > Carcassonne | The Settlers of Catan < Carcassonne
Agricola > Le Havre | Agricola < Le Havre
Dominion > Race for the Galaxy | Dominion < Race for the Galaxy
Puerto Rico < Caylus | Puerto Rico > Caylus
Power Grid < Tigris & Euphrates | Power Grid > Tigris & Euphrates
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El Grande | Arkham Horror
Löwenherz | Chicago Express
Lord of the Rings: The Confrontatio | Small World
Diplomacy | Brass
Crokinole | Indonesia
Maharaja: Palace Building in India | Wasabi!
Modern Art | Formula D
War of the Ring | Carcassonne: Hunters and Gatherers
Ra | Tinners' Trail
Kremlin | Cleopatra and the Society of Archit
DVONN | Ticket to Ride: Switzerland
Primordial Soup | Snow Tails
ZÈRTZ | Merchants of Amsterdam
The Princes of Florence | Wings of War - Famous Aces
Time's Up! | Merchant of Venus
Axis & Allies | Battlestar Galactica
Chess | Container
Reef Encounter | Ticket to Ride: USA 1910
Schotten-Totten | Fire and Axe: A Viking Saga
Samurai | Carcassonne: The Castle
Razzia! | Space Alert
Domaine | Iron Dragon
Liar's Dice | Zooloretto
Magic: The Gathering CCG | The Hanging Gardens
Medici | Wyatt Earp
Axis & Allies | Fearsome Floors
Wallenstein | Empire Builder
Shogun | Mahjong
Colossal Arena | Balloon Cup
Sticheln | On the Underground
Go | Talisman 4th Edition
YINSH | Through the Ages: A Story of Civili
Age of Steam | Jambo
Through the Desert | Mare Nostrum
Poker | Britannia
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This is where I came out, with a positive score. The left hand "good" column recommended 17 games which I rate a seven or above and only four which I rate a four or less. The right hand "bad" column recommended I avoid two games I rate a seven or above and one which I rate a four or less. That was rpetty darn impressive.
 
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Saw some of my favorite games on the left -- my "good" side -- and was impressed. Looked at the right side, which started with what is probably my second favorite game -- Hmm.

Checking the whole list vs. my ratings, will update with results.

Update:

Here's what I get. Good list has: 1 10; 3 8s; and 1 7. In addition, 3 games are Positives -- either games I like but for one reason or another haven't rated, or games I'm very interested in. 6 games are Negatives -- games I don't like but haven't rated (Go, for example), or that I wouldn't be interested in in the least (the GIPF series.)

The Bad list has: 1 9, 1 8, 2 7s, 6 Positives, and 2 Negatives.

So I looked back at my answers to the original question. In all fairness, I've never played Le Havre, and rated Agricola above it as a guess. So I recalculated what my score would be if I changed that answer, and got +10. Checking that, I get:

Good list: 1 10, 3 7s, 1 4, 2 Positives, 3 Negatives.

Bad list: 1 9, 3 8s, 1 7, 3 6s, 4 Positives, 1 Negative.

Maybe I'm just ... weird.

Interesting concept, though. Wish it were a bit more predictive for me, there are a lot of games on these lists I'm unfamiliar with.
 
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I must be one of the 'outliers'. (yeah I know this isn't scientific).

-12 was my score.

I have rated just 2 games a 10 (out of close to 1,000 games). One of them is El Grande (as well as Wallenstein and Ra at one point in my Top 10). But, I rather dislike Confrontation, Colossal Arena, Liar's Dice, Modern Art and Poker).

Conversely, on my 'good side' I quite dislike Small World, Mare Nostrum, Zooloretto (I don't like to trade away my games, one of the few I've ever gotten rid of), and Fire and Axe. OF course a few of may favs are in this list too, Containter, BSG, and Indonesia. I have played MORE of the right side.

Interesting list though.

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Leftt side average 6.363636364 (on 22 games)
Right Side Average 6.925925926 (on 27 games)
So the right is a bit better for me.


Although there are fewer unrated games on the rleft side that I'm still interested in, then on the right side



 
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I agree with Mike. The reason might be I like 9 of the 10 games that the calculations were based on so maybe almost all lists are more or less good for me that don't prefer RftG over anything. This list has certainly good games on the left side but I really like some on the right side.

While I admire your work on these lists I'm thinking this list would have worked better if you chose 10 basic games that are more different.
 
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The right column contains a lot of games that I really, really wanted to like because of theme and accessibility, but that I ended up trading eventually because they never hit the table. Nice!
 
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Interesting. I pretty much adore the games in both lists, would never avoid the games in the right list in favour of the left--that would be a disaster (my score was positive).

It's problematic for your system when people are omnivores, like me, I suppose. I like abstracts equally but differently from highly thematic games, which seem to be divided between the lists here. As I like theme and abstraction equally, I suppose my reasons for choosing one game over another would have been related to qualities which you have no way of using usefully--that I despise icons, or that I like the physicality of many wooden bits, or that I like ancient historical themes.

what's interesting is that your 10 'base games' are all really similar type games, and preference of one over the other doesn't seem very meaningful for me--it's as if you listed all of the GIPF games and then came to conclusions based on preference--possible, I suppose, but challenging. In my case, the 10 games used as measurements are all bland and uninteresting compared to the games in both of the results lists above.

But as I own pretty much all of the games from both results lists above, I suppose this fun excercise wasn't so much designed for me. Thanks anyway, though.
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13. Board Game: Arkham Horror [Average Rating:7.57 Overall Rank:69]
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The Settlers of Catan > Carcassonne | The Settlers of Catan < Carcassonne
Agricola < Le Havre | Agricola > Le Havre
Dominion > Race for the Galaxy | Dominion < Race for the Galaxy
Puerto Rico > Caylus | Puerto Rico < Caylus
Power Grid < Tigris & Euphrates | Power Grid > Tigris & Euphrates
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Lord of the Rings: The Confrontatio | Arkham Horror
Löwenherz | Galaxy Trucker
Diplomacy | Railroad Tycoon
Battle Cry | Cosmic Encounter
ZÈRTZ | StarCraft: The Board Game
Hoity Toity | Cosmic Encounter
The Republic of Rome | Yspahan
The Settlers of the Stone Age | Mr. Jack
Basari | Ticket to Ride: USA 1910
High Society | Twilight Struggle
Acquire | Zooloretto
I'm the Boss | Shogun
Schotten-Totten | War of the Ring
Mare Nostrum | 1960: The Making of the President
Modern Art | BattleLore
Shark | Shadows over Camelot
Flaschenteufel | Taluva
Chess | Age of Empires III: The Age of Disc
Can't Stop | Vegas Showdown
Lifeboats | Kingsburg
Cribbage | Tikal
Werewolf | Age of Steam
Tower of Babel | Himalaya
Titan | Vikings
Edel, Stein & Reich | Battlestar Galactica
Poker | Through the Ages: A Story of Civili
Wyatt Earp | Metropolys
Quo Vadis? | Pandemic
StreetSoccer | Formula D
Vampire: The Eternal Struggle | Brass
Stephenson's Rocket | Louis XIV
Rheinländer | Ticket to Ride: Nordic Countries
Ra | Carcassonne: The City
Crokinole | Ticket to Ride: Europe
Trias | Ys
 
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This seems to have pegged me in correctly really well (I was a minus sign all along on this one... a nice depressing fall into nothingness). A lot of my highly rated games were listed alongside others I haven't had the chance to play yet. Nice list and I'll have to give the new games I don't know a try. But if they go disasterously wrong, you shall bear my mighty wrath consisting of.... "Op, guess not... way off, next!".... so prepare yourself!
 
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Pretty fair summary of my gaming tastes (my sign was negative), with the exception of Ra which I think is one of the best designed games of all time.
 
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Wow, other than a couple of outliers, this seems to be really accurate. I'm incredibly impressed.
 
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Wow I own/often play many of the games on the right side and throughly dislike Ra on the left side.
 
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14. Board Game: Crokinole [Average Rating:7.81 Overall Rank:31]
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The Settlers of Catan > Carcassonne | The Settlers of Catan < Carcassonne
Agricola > Le Havre | Agricola < Le Havre
Dominion > Race for the Galaxy | Dominion < Race for the Galaxy
Puerto Rico > Caylus | Puerto Rico < Caylus
Power Grid < Tigris & Euphrates | Power Grid > Tigris & Euphrates
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Lord of the Rings: The Confrontatio | Axis & Allies
Crokinole | Tempus
Memoir '44 | Axis & Allies
Ra | Darjeeling
War of the Ring | Shear Panic
Advanced Civilization | Funny Friends
Hannibal: Rome vs. Carthage | Masons
Lord of the Rings - The Confrontati | Gheos
Commands & Colors: Ancients | The Hanging Gardens
El Grande | Il Principe
Löwenherz | Wasabi!
Time's Up! | Himalaya
Combat Commander: Europe | World of Warcraft: The Boardgame
Schotten-Totten | Conquest of the Empire
Modern Art | Mesopotamia
YINSH | Merchants of Amsterdam
ZÈRTZ | Oregon
Go | Ys
Battle Line | Dungeon Twister
Ticket to Ride: USA 1910 | Phoenicia
Paths of Glory | Space Dealer
Die Macher | Giganten
Blood Bowl - Third Edition | Hermagor
Space Hulk | Khet: The Laser Game
Acquire | Metropolys
Wallenstein | Conquest of the Empire
Hammer of the Scots | Diamant
Diplomacy | Mykerinos
BattleLore | Niagara
DVONN | Nefertiti
1830: The Game of Railroads and Rob | Brass
Medici | Fische Fluppen Frikadellen
Ticket to Ride | Fearsome Floors
The Princes of Florence | Louis XIV
Small World | Cuba
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Funny, I'm an outlier too.

The problem for me is that I'd rather play Scrabble or Beyond Balderdash or Loopin Louie than any of the 10 games listed. In every instance (maybe 4 of the 5), I was answering "which of the two games would cause me the least suffering."
 
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Sorry. Nice idea but... I fall on the right - but enjoy games on both sides of this entry.

Maybe it's me... zombie
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I am a fan of: LotR:Confrontation, Ra, WotR, Adv Civ, Hannibal, CC:E, HoTS and Small World, also enjoying TTR:1910. Hmmmm ... interesting
 
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Of the games on this list, I'd only actually played Carcassonne and Catan, and I picked Catan. Even though I actually only did one of the entries, the +14 column is games I liked the look of! laugh
However, entry +15 didn't really work for me.
 
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pretty good - you got my only other 10 on the list of games I should enjoy (diplomacy) along with about half of my collection/wishlist. the right hand side is pretty much all games that either don't interest me or are completely off my radar.

I'm impressed! =)
 
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15. Board Game: Axis & Allies [Average Rating:6.87 Overall Rank:460]
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The Settlers of Catan > Carcassonne | The Settlers of Catan < Carcassonne
Agricola < Le Havre | Agricola > Le Havre
Dominion < Race for the Galaxy | Dominion > Race for the Galaxy
Puerto Rico < Caylus | Puerto Rico > Caylus
Power Grid > Tigris & Euphrates | Power Grid < Tigris & Euphrates
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Axis & Allies | Small World
Axis & Allies | Crokinole
Poker | Ticket to Ride: USA 1910
Space Dealer | Memoir '44
Phoenicia | Carcassonne: Hunters and Gatherers
Tempus | War of the Ring
Il Principe | Ra
Entdecker | YINSH
Funny Friends | Lord of the Rings: The Confrontatio
Elasund: The First City of Catan | Carcassonne: The City
World of Warcraft: The Boardgame | Ticket to Ride
Empire Builder | Commands & Colors: Ancients
Fische Fluppen Frikadellen | El Grande
Shear Panic | Lost Cities
Amyitis | Wallenstein
Brass | Hive
Augsburg 1520 | Samurai
Khet: The Laser Game | Pandemic
Gheos | Through the Desert
Giganten | Lord of the Rings - The Confrontati
Red November | HeroScape Master Set: Rise of the V
Conquest of the Empire | Space Hulk
Darjeeling | Ingenious
Mesopotamia | Battlestar Galactica
Shark | Carcassonne: The Castle
Marracash | BattleLore
Indonesia | Magic: The Gathering CCG
Merchants of Amsterdam | DVONN
Oltre Mare | Bohnanza
Pizarro & Co. | Web of Power
Medici vs Strozzi | Citadels
Medieval Merchant | Advanced Civilization
Lost Valley | Battle Line
Industria | Ticket to Ride: Europe
Spades | Hammer of the Scots
 
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My recommended list contains extremes - several games I love, several games I hate.

The games to avoid list is a little bit closer, but has a few anomalies.

I'll have to take a look at one of the other result sets - I strongly dislike both T&E and Power Grid, so it was a coin flip on that one.
 
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I have basically an equal number of likes and dislikes in both columns.
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This is weird - according to my tastes I *should * be liking stuff on the left and hating stuff on the right. Actually, its almost *exactly* the opposite! I even own or have played a number on that right-hand list...
 
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16. Board Game: Twilight Imperium (third edition) [Average Rating:7.83 Overall Rank:25]
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Agricola > Le Havre | Agricola < Le Havre
Dominion < Race for the Galaxy | Dominion > Race for the Galaxy
Puerto Rico < Caylus | Puerto Rico > Caylus
Power Grid > Tigris & Euphrates | Power Grid < Tigris & Euphrates
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Twilight Imperium 3rd Edition | Carcassonne: Hunters and Gatherers
Age of Steam | Lost Cities
StarCraft: The Board Game | Kingdoms
Through the Ages: A Story of Civili | Wyatt Earp
Twilight Struggle | Carcassonne: The City
Axis & Allies | Carcassonne: The Castle
Railroad Tycoon | Clans
Age of Empires III: The Age of Disc | Carolus Magnus
Axis & Allies | Flaschenteufel
War of the Ring | Cartagena
Bridge | Talisman 4th Edition
Cosmic Encounter | The Republic of Rome
Imperial | Mare Nostrum
Cosmic Encounter | Manhattan
Galaxy Trucker | Cribbage
Brass | TransAmerica
The Princes of Florence | Lifeboats
Vegas Showdown | Ricochet Robots
BattleLore | Through the Desert
1960: The Making of the President | Medina
Mr. Jack | Rheinländer
Amyitis | New England
The Scepter of Zavandor | Tower of Babel
Yspahan | DVONN
Commands & Colors: Ancients | Fjords
Combat Commander: Europe | Trias
Notre Dame | Coloretto
Vinci | Qwirkle
Leonardo da Vinci | Fearsome Floors
Kingsburg | Aton
Shogun | Wings of War - Famous Aces
Factory Fun | Hoity Toity
Indonesia | Lord of the Rings: The Confrontatio
Mykerinos | GIPF
Roads and Boats | Small World
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Well, I've already played a fair number from the left and liked/loved them, there are two on the right that I've played and liked but they are fillers and i do prefer longer games with the right crowd.

The ones i haven't played on the left are mostly war games but there's a few in there for me to try out

Interesting geek list!
 
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While there were some tough choices, I ended up with -16, so as I understand it I should hate the games on the left...but it has a half-dozen of my favorites, including my #1 game! It also has several I hate. Go figure..
 
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-16: But I don't like: Talisman 4th Edition, The Republic of Rome, Mare Nostrum, Tower of Babel, Fearsome Floors, Wings of War - Famous Aces

-16: But I like: The Princes of Florence, Amyitis, The Scepter of Zavandor, Yspahan, Notre Dame, Vinci, Kingsburg.

What does that mean?
 
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17. Board Game: Empire Builder [Average Rating:6.92 Overall Rank:488]
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The Settlers of Catan > Carcassonne | The Settlers of Catan < Carcassonne
Agricola < Le Havre | Agricola > Le Havre
Dominion < Race for the Galaxy | Dominion > Race for the Galaxy
Puerto Rico > Caylus | Puerto Rico < Caylus
Power Grid > Tigris & Euphrates | Power Grid < Tigris & Euphrates
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Empire Builder | El Grande
Indonesia | Through the Desert
Through the Ages: A Story of Civili | Carcassonne: The City
Brass | Samurai
Bridge | Carcassonne: Hunters and Gatherers
Merchant of Venus | Magic: The Gathering CCG
Advanced Civilization | Reef Encounter
Starfarers of Catan | Shogun
The Settlers of the Stone Age | Torres
Civilization | Maharaja: Palace Building in India
Samurai Swords | Hive
Blood Bowl - Third Edition | Ingenious
Container | DVONN
Fury of Dracula | Wallenstein
Twilight Struggle | Medina
Twilight Imperium 3rd Edition | YINSH
Paths of Glory | Tikal
Mare Nostrum | Ys
Basari | Vikings
Starship Catan | Taluva
Phoenicia | Carcassonne: The Castle
Space Dealer | War of the Ring
Iron Dragon | Ra
Netrunner | The Princes of Florence
Hannibal: Rome vs. Carthage | Löwenherz
Merchants of Amsterdam | Blokus
Dune | Mr. Jack
Acquire | Tichu
Canal Mania | Citadels
Star Wars: Epic Duels | Crokinole
Battle Cry | Werewolves of Miller's Hollow
Space Alert | Keythedral
Industria | GIPF
Fische Fluppen Frikadellen | Kingdoms
Cribbage | Hacienda
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Interesting, I've played 1 game on side I should like (which I did) and 2 games on side I should avoid (liked them OK) Otherwise, no games I love or play on these lists.
 
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On the Left (which I'm supposed to like) I find several I enjoy, and a number of others I've been wanting to try out.

On The Right is two I have played a lot, Magic which is OK and Citadels which I like, a few I have just tried and found decent (Shogun and Ra) and mostly stuff I'm pretty sure is not my cup of tea.

So Yeah, list seemed correct for me.
 
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its totally random for me. i mean i love and hate almost equal games on both sides.
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Terrifically accurate! I was a -17 and this list is nearly completely spot-on of my highest rated games, games I own and want to play, or games I've looked at and marked as interested.

Of course, there are games on nearly all the lists that I am interested in and liked, but this list is almost completely a hit on every item.

Well done!
 
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Plus which, we get to meet people who have the same taste in games as us!

Hi Matt!
 
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18. Board Game: Twilight Struggle [Average Rating:8.32 Overall Rank:1]
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The Settlers of Catan > Carcassonne | The Settlers of Catan < Carcassonne
Agricola > Le Havre | Agricola < Le Havre
Dominion < Race for the Galaxy | Dominion > Race for the Galaxy
Puerto Rico > Caylus | Puerto Rico < Caylus
Power Grid > Tigris & Euphrates | Power Grid < Tigris & Euphrates
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Twilight Struggle | Kingdoms
Through the Ages: A Story of Civili | Clans
Advanced Civilization | Condottiere
Twilight Imperium 3rd Edition | Manhattan
Battlestar Galactica | Masons
War of the Ring | Rheinländer
Combat Commander: Europe | Il Principe
Commands & Colors: Ancients | Pick Picknic
Space Alert | Magna Grecia
Bridge | El Caballero
1960: The Making of the President | Augsburg 1520
Hannibal: Rome vs. Carthage | PÃœNCT
BattleLore | WildLife
Age of Empires III: The Age of Disc | Ys
StarCraft: The Board Game | Cartagena
Paths of Glory | Kings & Things
Age of Steam | Carolus Magnus
Railroad Tycoon | Dos Rios
Memoir '44 | Shear Panic
Blood Bowl - Third Edition | Pizarro & Co.
Descent: Journeys in the Dark | Quarto!
Vegas Showdown | TransAmerica
Small World | Medina
Pandemic | Flaschenteufel
Galaxy Trucker | Talisman 4th Edition
Fury of Dracula | Rosenkönig
Arkham Horror | Axis & Allies
Civilization | Babel
Die Macher | Lifeboats
Lord of the Rings - The Confrontati | Verräter
Hammer of the Scots | Dungeon Twister
Ticket to Ride: Switzerland | Chess
Ticket to Ride: Europe | Java
Ticket to Ride | Oregon
Brass | Palazzo
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Wow, this is incredible! The left side reads like a list of my favorite games: (if you take out the TTR poison gulp ) Civ, TtA, Galaxy Truker, Space Alert, Battlestar Galactica, even Bridge! thumbsup

Those on the right I either haven't played, or tend to not like: Chess, Condottiere, Verrater, Clans. yuk
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Very close for me. Almost perfect for the left side a bungh of games I love or I'd love to try, and almost perfect opn the right games I'm not interested in apart from Axis & Allies that should be on the left...
Impressive
 
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Wow, I either have them or want them (well, most of them already)
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Surprisingly accurate. I own several games on the left column and would play most of them..., while the games on the right do no appeal to me at all... including Chess, which for some reason I despise.
 
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Whoa. Very impressive.
 
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19. Board Game: Through the Desert [Average Rating:7.16 Overall Rank:191]
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The Settlers of Catan > Carcassonne | The Settlers of Catan < Carcassonne
Agricola < Le Havre | Agricola > Le Havre
Dominion > Race for the Galaxy | Dominion < Race for the Galaxy
Puerto Rico < Caylus | Puerto Rico > Caylus
Power Grid > Tigris & Euphrates | Power Grid < Tigris & Euphrates
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Axis & Allies | War of the Ring
Axis & Allies | Lord of the Rings: The Confrontatio
Poker | Through the Desert
Stone Age | Paths of Glory
Empire Builder | Samurai
World of Warcraft: The Boardgame | Go
Augsburg 1520 | Hammer of the Scots
Shark | Ra
Age of Renaissance | Commands & Colors: Ancients
Jungle Speed | Twilight Struggle
Il Principe | Blue Moon
Space Dealer | Lord of the Rings - The Confrontati
Brass | Lord of the Rings
Shear Panic | YINSH
Saint Petersburg | Taj Mahal
Merchants of Amsterdam | Mystery Rummy: Jack the Ripper
Oltre Mare | Carcassonne: Hunters and Gatherers
Fische Fluppen Frikadellen | Combat Commander: Europe
I'm the Boss | Carcassonne: The Castle
TransAmerica | Hive
Phoenicia | Arkham Horror
Lifeboats | Space Hulk
Werewolf | Taluva
Kingsburg | Hannibal: Rome vs. Carthage
Through the Ages: A Story of Civili | Web of Power
Elasund: The First City of Catan | Carcassonne: The City
Amyitis | BattleLore
Giganten | El Grande
Tempus | Dune
Talisman 4th Edition | The Princes of Florence
Royal Palace | Battle Line
Big City | Ticket to Ride: USA 1910
Antike | Netrunner
Leonardo da Vinci | Lost Cities
Manhattan | Wallenstein
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Very cool. I ended up here with a negative 19. For the most part this all looks spot on. Bravo John!


Only odd balls:

I actually like Brass a lot. The rest of the left side sucks plenty.


As for the ones I "like", I'm actually not a wargamer. But it does hit the Knizia classics:

Throught the Desert
Samurai
Ra
LotR Confrontation
Blue Moon (I actually don't like this one)
Carc: Castle
Battle Line
Lost Cities

And yea, I pretty much rank all those as top tier.

All the wargames on the list are meh to me though
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I ended up here with a +19 but the games on the negative side look more interesting

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Incredible... - 19 and I find back Go & Ra & Battleline (Schotten-Totten) on my side ! This completes my Top 5 !
The exception: I do enjoy St Petersburg.. But, it's the only one I like on the left side column...
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Well...I found 16 games that I like, including 3 of my 10 favorite games, on the list I'm not supposed to enjoy and only 3 on the other. I guess I'll just have to stick with playing everything in sight.
 
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I don't get how it works, but the results look pretty good.
I got here with negative 19 and will be proud to announce at parties that poker is somewhat like Jungle Speed in an unknown way that makes me not like it.
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A pretty good hit for me as well - I was a negative. All of the games on the right hand side that I have played I rate highly and I have played most of them as they have appealed to me. The majority of games on the left side I have not played as they didn't appeal - the exceptions 'Stone Age' and 'Through the Ages' both of which I enjoyed and 'Brass' which definitely appeals but I have not played.

Spooky.
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20. Board Game: Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization [Average Rating:8.30 Overall Rank:4]
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The Settlers of Catan > Carcassonne | The Settlers of Catan < Carcassonne
Agricola > Le Havre | Agricola < Le Havre
Dominion > Race for the Galaxy | Dominion < Race for the Galaxy
Puerto Rico < Caylus | Puerto Rico > Caylus
Power Grid > Tigris & Euphrates | Power Grid < Tigris & Euphrates
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Through the Ages: A Story of Civili | Blue Moon
Stone Age | Mystery Rummy: Jack the Ripper
Railroad Tycoon | Through the Desert
Axis & Allies | Wyatt Earp
Ticket to Ride: USA 1910 | Carcassonne: The Castle
Age of Empires III: The Age of Disc | Carcassonne: Hunters and Gatherers
Kingsburg | Doom: The Boardgame
Axis & Allies | Mamma Mia!
Battlestar Galactica | Magna Grecia
Age of Steam | Lord of the Rings
Space Alert | El Caballero
Saint Petersburg | Mü & More
Twilight Imperium 3rd Edition | Clans
Descent: Journeys in the Dark | Taj Mahal
Ticket to Ride: Nordic Countries | Paths of Glory
Roads and Boats | Lord of the Rings: The Confrontatio
Imperial | New England
1960: The Making of the President | Netrunner
Vegas Showdown | Ricochet Robots
Tide of Iron | Goldland
Galaxy Trucker | Mare Nostrum
BattleLore | Chess
Cosmic Encounter | Basari
Ticket to Ride: Märklin Edition | Stephenson's Rocket
Die Macher | Kingdoms
Shogun | Condottiere
StarCraft: The Board Game | Sleuth
Antike | The Ark of the Covenant
Primordial Soup | Cartagena
Ticket to Ride: Europe | StreetSoccer
Brass | Quo Vadis?
Cosmic Encounter | Trias
Shadows over Camelot | Flaschenteufel
Notre Dame | Lost Cities
Pandemic | Mahjong
 
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My good list is pretty good. There's several games I like on the "bad" list, however.
 
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Chanfan wrote:
My good list is pretty good. There's several games I like on the "bad" list, however.


wow... i actually own a lot of the games in the left list and don't really like a lot of them in the right list...

what is this trickery that you have used?
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Cosmic Encounter is on the left list twice! I suppose that means I should really really buy it.

Seriously, it fit pretty well. I love Space Alert, TI, Descent, Galaxy Trucker and Pandemic, and I'm thinking I should really like Railroad Tycoon, Stone Age, Battlestart Galactica, Roads and Boats, Cosmic Encounter, Shogun, StaCraft and Cosmic Encounter based on the reviews I have read.

I don't care much for Carcassonne, Doom, Ricochet Robots or Chess. However, I do like Lost Cities and Mahjong, so it was not entirely accurate. Nevertheless, I wholeheartedly appreciate the effort. Have some GG.
 
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Of the ones recommended that I've played, I've rated 15, average rating 7.93.

Of the ones I should avoid that I've played, I've only rated 5, average rating 8.3. Of course with such a small sample it may not be representative.

The best way, I think, to empirically test this would be to generate the average rating I've given to the games I've rated for every single list and see if my own recommended list is significantly higher or if there's a trend as you get further from my "number." Unfortunately I'm not bored enough to do that yet.

From this comment you can probably tell what personality type I am.
 
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I got -20 and my results are pretty much opposite of what you're suggesting. There are a few on the right I like but basically everything on the left I love.
 
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21. Board Game: Samurai [Average Rating:7.49 Overall Rank:76]
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The Settlers of Catan > Carcassonne | The Settlers of Catan < Carcassonne
Agricola < Le Havre | Agricola > Le Havre
Dominion > Race for the Galaxy | Dominion < Race for the Galaxy
Puerto Rico > Caylus | Puerto Rico < Caylus
Power Grid > Tigris & Euphrates | Power Grid < Tigris & Euphrates
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Stone Age | Through the Desert
Through the Ages: A Story of Civili | Samurai
Empire Builder | Blue Moon
Small World | War of the Ring
Space Alert | Reef Encounter
Advanced Civilization | Taluva
Battlestar Galactica | Mystery Rummy: Jack the Ripper
Snow Tails | Dungeon Twister
Brass | Taj Mahal
Union Pacific | Mykerinos
Ticket to Ride: USA 1910 | Torres
Blood Bowl - Third Edition | Go
Acquire | El Grande
Age of Renaissance | Hive
The Republic of Rome | Carcassonne: The Castle
Memoir '44 | The Princes of Florence
Ticket to Ride: Switzerland | Fairy Tale
Chicago Express | Mr. Jack
1830: The Game of Railroads and Rob | Carcassonne: The City
Poker | Magic: The Gathering CCG
I'm the Boss | Gheos
Indonesia | Lord of the Rings: The Confrontatio
Werewolf | Chess
Ticket to Ride: Märklin Edition | Shogun
Ticket to Ride | Hera and Zeus
Formula D | Ys
No Thanks! | Java
Saint Petersburg | Hey! That's My Fish!
Cribbage | Lord of the Rings
Eurorails | YINSH
Kingsburg | Carcassonne: Hunters and Gatherers
Shark | DVONN
Samurai Swords | PÃœNCT
Showmanager | Vinci
Loopin' Louie | Ingenious
 
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Well I DO love Through The Desert, Samurai, Torres, Hive, Mr Jack, Chess, LOTR:Confrontation, Shogun, Java, Hey! That's My Fish!, LOTR and Ingenious.

I also want to try some of the others on the list so your clever magic worked.
 
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Holy crap! My result was 21, and I happen to have bought Samurai earlier this evening. Your system isn't just based on recommendation -- it's a predictor of behavior!
 
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Isn't this your result John? If so, looks like a bit of a mixed bag for you - you'd miss out on some of your faves on the right (LOTR:TC, WOTR, Shogun), and play some duds on the left (although on a whole the left appears to be the better side for you of the two).

 
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Mark_Owen_Reich wrote:
Isn't this your result John? If so, looks like a bit of a mixed bag for you - you'd miss out on some of your faves on the right (LOTR:TC, WOTR, Shogun), and play some duds on the left (although on a whole the left appears to be the better side for you of the two).



Yes, this is my list, and excepting the LOTR themed games it does pretty well - I despise Taj Mahal, Through The Desert and Samurai. I do like Shogun, although it is cooling on me. And I much prefer Small World to Vinci. On the 'like (LH)' side, the best standout is Through The Ages, which I really dislike.

Oh well!
 
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As far as predictive accuracy goes, some huge failures for my -21. The most egregious being Brass, Chicago Express, and 1830 on my avoid list.
 
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22. Board Game: Gheos [Average Rating:6.61 Overall Rank:803]
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Agricola > Le Havre | Agricola < Le Havre
Dominion > Race for the Galaxy | Dominion < Race for the Galaxy
Puerto Rico > Caylus | Puerto Rico < Caylus
Power Grid > Tigris & Euphrates | Power Grid < Tigris & Euphrates
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Through the Ages: A Story of Civili | Gheos
Battlestar Galactica | Blue Moon
Small World | Magna Grecia
Advanced Civilization | Clans
Space Alert | Condottiere
Stone Age | Dungeon Twister
Memoir '44 | El Caballero
Crokinole | Hera and Zeus
Descent: Journeys in the Dark | PÃœNCT
Pandemic | Kingdoms
1960: The Making of the President | Through the Desert
Ticket to Ride | Dos Rios
Twilight Imperium 3rd Edition | Masons
Commands & Colors: Ancients | Il Principe
Ticket to Ride: Switzerland | Chess
Ticket to Ride: Europe | Rheinländer
Twilight Struggle | Darjeeling
Age of Empires III: The Age of Disc | Mystery Rummy: Jack the Ripper
Die Macher | Mykerinos
BattleLore | Tempus
Combat Commander: Europe | Mamma Mia!
Railroad Tycoon | Sleuth
Ticket to Ride: Nordic Countries | Niagara
Ticket to Ride: Märklin Edition | Entdecker
Blood Bowl - Third Edition | Reef Encounter
Vegas Showdown | Java
War of the Ring | Pizarro & Co.
Formula D | WildLife
Time's Up! | Shear Panic
Galaxy Trucker | Timbuktu
Kingsburg | New England
Roads and Boats | Khet: The Laser Game
San Juan | Funny Friends
Union Pacific | Quo Vadis?
1830: The Game of Railroads and Rob | Kings & Things
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Lulz...every game that was suggested for me I either own, have owned, or is on my list of games to get already. It just confirmed what I already know; that I may play lighter fare with the family, but more often than not I'm pining for a long brain burner.
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David Bohnenberger
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Well I'll be darned - it actually sorta works! I kinda like the games on the left, on average, more than the games on the right! Good job!
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Dweeb wrote:
Well I'll be darned - it actually sorta works! I kinda like the games on the left, on average, more than the games on the right! Good job!


agreed!!!! Pretty cool job.
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It didn't work for me. I've tried a goodly number of the games on the right and of those, they rate pretty low. So I'm not inclined to take the other recommendations.
 
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I was secretly hoping Through the Ages would be the top one on this list. Just one more list/article convincing me I should pick it up, in spite of having no one to play it with and no time for it. cry
 
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What happen if I love the games in both columns?

Am I a sort of mutant who should be incarcerated in a high security prison?
 
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Gordon Yu
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So I guess I can't take this test if I haven't tried every game in question? soblue
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Nice job.

I had used your system and found that GO, which I have no interest playing, was on my recommend list. I then went back to 'tweak' the games I was supposed to like and came to a much better recommendation list. Now I know what games I should be liking! Thanks a lot for ths list.
 
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My breakdown, for posterity: (+17)

Left (recommended) Column:
Like: 10 (9 if you count Civ and Adv. Civ as one game)
Dislike: 7 (5 if you count all TtR variants as one game)
Interested: 11
Not interested: 7

Right (not recommended) column:
Like: 2
Dislike: 5
Interested: 1
Not interested: 28
 
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Ending up in the right or left column is decided by the choice between carcassonne and catan. So if you cant decide on that one, the whole system falls flat.
 
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Kasper wrote:
Ending up in the right or left column is decided by the choice between carcassonne and catan. So if you cant decide on that one, the whole system falls flat.


Completely wrong. Yes, the choice between Carc and Catan determines which side you end up on, but as most people have understood, I could have given the choices in any order - PR vs Caylus could have been the first choice with the +14.5 or -14.5 result and the thing would work just the same, except that the same lists would have appeared in a different order on different sides - but you would still have got exactly the same 'try' and 'avoid' lists. The numbers are simply a tool for looking up the list item.
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