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Abstracts for the missus
Alfred Das
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...or should that be 'Abstracts for the masses'? Ouch... m'kay... let's not tread into the Venus-vs-Mars hornets nest before I lose my number one game playing buddy, me missus.

Still, I've asked around. I have more than a few game playing friends of which a decent percentage are sisters of Venus. Most of them are not addicts - or geeks - like I am but have enough experience to play the gamer's games occasionally. But... no abstracts. Why?

I already stepped over the hornets nest, so let's not retrace steps and poke at it by getting too analytical. But I'd like to have this one answered: What abstract games stand a good chance of appealing to women? Or more generally: What level of abstraction can bridge the gap between Catan and Go?


Please share your stories, both the good ones and the bad ones. I'd especially like to hear the voices of our female geek sisters on this.


PS, Dr. Phil, please stay out of it.
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Posted On: 2005-03-18 07:33:53
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1. Turn [Average Rating:4.24 Unranked]
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Turn/Power Game

This is the one that fired up my bugging question. I had been wondering for some time and recently trying to play this with the missus fueled the need to know.

Not the best game ever and I know this game is a bit broken, but we didn't play long enough for her to discover any flaws. I called it quits before it got rough, so to speak.
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Posted On: 2005-03-18 07:19:11
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2. Chess [Average Rating:7.08 Overall Rank:199]
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I never played it with me missus myself, but hearing her not very favourable words about it gives me the shivers.

Out as well, my owned copy of:
Bushi: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/14591
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Posted On: 2005-03-18 07:21:05
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Ah, the Divine Feminine! Clever choice of picture as it relates to the theme of your Geeklist.

Having said that, chess is not part of my marital game repertoire either as it is disdainful unto Her.

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3. Checkers [Average Rating:4.80 Overall Rank:4663]
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Simply does not appeal to her. Her blank stare at its boring flatness says more than words can describe.

Out as well, my owned copy of:
Z Game: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/9520
and Halma: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/2386
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Hmm, in my experience a lot of women that play games enjoy checkers. My fiance very much enjoys the game.
4. Go [Average Rating:7.91 Overall Rank:28]
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Go

I do not dare suggest 'the beautiful game' to her.

Oh, forgot to mention... Me missus has a degree in Mathematics, go figure! Is there any hope???
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If she's a mathematician, Go is an easy sell. Such deep consequences from such a simple set of axioms! Show her Benson's paper on unconditional life:

http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~games/go/seminar/notes/020717/ben...
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Couldn't open this link:

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If she's a mathematician, Go is an easy sell. Such deep consequences from such a simple set of axioms! Show her Benson's paper on unconditional life:

http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~games/go/seminar/notes/020717/ben...


But found this one that does work:

http://senseis.xmp.net/?BensonsAlgorithm

I'd heard of this work but had not seen it explained. Thanks!
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My wife loves Go. And she usually wins.
5. Ingenious [Average Rating:7.54 Overall Rank:60]
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OK, try this one for "Die-Das". The rules are very simple, not much of a brainburner, plays quickly. Scales well for 2-4 players. Will be out in the US this spring.
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This has been a recent it for the family. Although it is my seven year old son who wins the lion's share of the games.

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My 7-year old daughter loves it and so does her father. I don't find it very interesting and I generally like abstracts. I mention this only to say that this one's worth a try, but don't despair if she doesn't like it. There's still hope.