I break this one out about once a year and it's always a good time.

Drop One Treasure and go back to STart.

Oh yeah, we still love to play this game. We usually play where, to be determined the overall 'winner', you have to win a game as each different character. Takes us a while, but we always have a ball playing it!

My students will play this one All Day Long. For hours. Fill their little hands full of treasure cards. Leave the Dungeon, reshuffle the cards and go back in.

This game's hilarious. The center of the board is, of course, the dragon's horde. However, the more time you spend **in** the dungeon, means the less time you'll have to get **out** of the dungeon. Usually **somebody** finds out he doesn't have enough time to get out, so makes a suicide run to the horde and sees how much $$$ he can get. Others will attempt to wake up the dragon just to p*ss off everyone else grabbing loot in the horde. (: At the end of the game, we usually give out two awards: One to the winner, and the other to the "Richest Corpse in the Dungeon". I've usually won the game with a lowly 80gp gem. (:

My enjoyment of games is usually based on how many decisions I get to make. In this game there's pretty much only one: when do I turn around? So I don't like it very much.

I bought this game on release and have been playing it ever since, It gets its fair share of play, I like the fact there is a slim chance of escape as it adds real tension to the game.

The one and only dungeoncrawl I don't like. Maybe with some HEAVY changes to the rules... it would become another game.

Solo player computerized version based on the game under the title:

"Desktop Dungeon"

at

http://www.geocities.com/bosskey2001/

Ok, it's seriously grungy nit-picking time for me here again.

This game is very much in the DungeonCrawl *style* with its underground venue, rooms, monsters, multiple levels and such.

But it's a Cave!

As Robartin himself said:



So the question now is, just how strictly do we apply the definition and/or normal usage of the term Dungeon here?

As a past player of AD&D and various other RPG board and computer games, I realize that an underground cave adventure is about as close to being a dungeon as you can get and, technically speaking, not be a dungeon.

So, seeing as this meant to be "The Definitive DungeonCrawl Geeklist", should we include Caves under the blanket definition of Dungeons or not?

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go enroll in Legal School.

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Close enough to a dungeon for me. I was mainly trying to avoid having things that take place above ground or in a city added to the list. Think Zombies or Return of the Heroes or Mystic Wood for examples of stuff not to be added to this list. They are all essentially still dungeon crawlers, but the setting is entirely different than the games on this list.

Been very enjoyable at work, in between the actual work. Fun little game, made more enjoyable by the various expansions, and time to play without having to stop in between moves, but fun nevertheless.

My truly poor quality box of HeroQuest have been used beyond recognition. Not only is it german (I cannot speak german, my mother translated the game when I was a kid), all miniatures are either broken or painted with baaad painting skills. All expansions (excluding miniatures) are available online.

Few days ago I looked through and cannibalized two different sets and two expansions that all had so many missing, beaten or ruined components that I ended up with enough figures, cards and other components for one complete set of Heroquest with nothing missing and some few extra components and everything in fine condition.

I remember playing this (Finnish translation of course) a lot as a kid, everyone seemed to play it too, but only few owned it, and sometimes other kids would do stupid things, like one boy who was so happy about finding second special artifact for his character that he took the cards home with him, and never returned them to me.

"Their mine, I have earned them...."

I actually just dug out this game today, and was amazed to find I was only missing 1 goblin and 1 hero (the Elf). I can't wait to break this sucker out at our next game night, I have many fond memories of playing it.

I have a Estrela's version of the game (from Brazil).
This is a very addictive game. The drawnbacks of this game (besides the high price):

Poor quality of the components (I think this only occurs on the Brazilian version from Estrela). Even the monsters/heroes are paper cards with a plastic base on it.

Many situations not present in the rulebook, causing some discussion on the play.

But I still love this game and recommends to everyone.

This is probably the best of the Wizkids Clix games out there. Especially if you take it a step further and have one person play the monsters and the rest take heros. Then it becomes quite enjoyable.

Shame about the collectable aspect though...

I love MK. I also enjoy the collectibility of the game - it's fun opening a booster pack to see what you get. Plus, the game doesn't seem to suffer the same issues as most collectible games: More money = better pieces/cards.

I agree this is probably hands down the best clix game Wizkids ever did. Though I was seriously into MK 1.0 I eventually sold all my stuff except for the Dungeons monsters and heroes. The grid board made movement so much easier and the rules seemed well balanced. Plus it has tons of potential for player enhancements. Unfortunately it never seemed to catch on. Probably because it seemed more like a board game and didn't seem well marketed to the right gaming segment. This game probably would have benefited from a straight non-collectible release with nice box sets and expansions instead of boosters.

This justifies any mageknight collection. I am surprised this game isn't higher rated. It is fantastic, well balanced, fun and the repla is huge!

I agree about MageKnight Dungeons being the best of the bunch. I played this with my children and we used to have a great time. It's definitely more fun if you've got the dungeon furniture packs though.
I never had any luck with finding the traps pack unfortunately which was annoying.

One of my favorites. The ability to play without a GM and have a random dungeon are a big bonus. Lots of online support for it too, with new characters and tiles.

I recently aquired this one. I love it. what can I say that hasn't been said before. the only drawback is that it's not supported by the company anymore so you have to hunt around for expansion packs and the like. It also goes for lots of cash, but some of your friendly Neighborhood Boardgame geeks may have one to part with for a song (like the one I found) look around! Especially good is adding the roleplay rules little by little to add more spice. I was a hardcore D&D guy, but the streamlined rules in WQ give you just as much flavor without the "cooking time" of D&D.

I used to have this many years ago and have to admit that yes, it was one of GW's better games. Only me and a friend played it but we had days of fun including our own custom rules 'n stuff.

Shame I got rid of all my GW stuff years ago. Typical really as I've got a cool gaming group together and now if I stand a chance of getting any of the old classics (WHQ, Space Hulk and Necroumunda) I have to resort to ebay. And I don't really have the expendable cash to pay 100 odd quid for a game...

In my opinion the best dungeoncrawl ever. Way too good to be kept in production by GW.

How did you last a year DMing this game?

This is by no means a RPG, it's an excellent DM-less dungeon crawl. The designers' attempts to make it an RPG were akin to attaching a jet engine to a unicycle. WHQ is simple fun and a boardgame; an RPG it is not.

As a boardgame, it is the finest DM-less dungeon crawl I have ever come across. Don't let the designers let you think it's anything other than it is!

I think this one would be at the top of the list if there was a list of games that have taken forever to be released. Chessex has been saying they will be releasing this one in the next few months for what seems like YEARS!

Wiz War is one of the best games ever - very underrated and very overdue on a new (high quality please!) release.

For the record: Wiz War and Cosmic Encounter were credited by Magic's designer, Richard Garfield, as the two main sources that influenced the design of Magic.

The only dungeon crawl that we played more than Wiz-War was 1st edition AD&D. This is an absolutely awesome game, and I've been so hurt and puzzled by Chessex's inabilityunwillingnesscomplete incompetence long preparation to release this game. My goal is to never buy any Chessex products until this game is released, by them or others (due to released rights to the game).

I first played WizWar in 1999. I thought, hey, cool, great game, who sells this and where can I find it? So I went online. There's Chessex, promising a release for the game later that year.

Every quarter they pushed the stated release date on the webpage back a quarter. Sometimes they didn't get around to pushing back the date until after six months past the promised release. Then they took to advancing it by six months, then a year, every time the deadline rolled by. Never any news, never any reason. For the last year or so it's been "undergoing revisions".

They've been sitting on this for a decade. I'll never buy a product from Chessex, even if they ever do manage to release WizWar. I'm not going to trust my money to any company so incompetent that it can't get a game out that its been continually promising for over ten years, and I'm not going to give my business to any company so irresponsible to its customers and so horrifically inconsiderate to a game designer. Tom Jolly has been waiting for a long time to see a new edition of what should have been one of his best sellers, he should have making well-deserved money from this game for ten years, but Chessex just sits on it, can't get the game out, and refuses to sell the rights to a competent company that could actually produce something.

The new swedish edition (from 2002) actually contains both the new and the old characters, nearly unchanged (except for a few statistics). I must say that this was a bad decision since the old characters are really boring compared with the new.

I have this and have painted the figures. It`s a worthy addition to an already fun game.

I love the Dungeonquest game. However, I found that the Heroes in the expansion need a little tweeking at least. The Chaos Wizard should win every time with his ability to walk through walls. Anyway, still a fun game.

God I remember this. I think my little bro had it. It was ok as far as I remember. Probably a bit shallow these days but nostalgia tells me it was fun.

LOL, back in the day when "Extension Kit" served as a suitable name for an expansion.

Sure go ahead. Remember, it's the Definitive Dungeoncrawl GeekList. Add away!

From Tom Jolly, there is also Drakon:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/viewitem.php3?gameid=1276

and an expansion:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/viewitem.php3?gameid=3624

This is a fun little game, but it doesn't really have the feel of a dungeon crawl so much to me.

The original theme of this game was an archaelogy site, so no wonder it doesn't have a dungeoncrawl feel!

This is a fun little game. I've seen it in 3d with mini's and such, beautiful set up.

It doesn't feel like a dungeon crawler because it isn't. This is an area superiority game with a Dungeon theme tacked on. You win by having your forces occupy the higher-scoring areas of the board. Nice game, anyway, I recommend it.

A very watered down version of Dungeonquest. A bit to simple for my taste.

I found drakon to give the players far deeper gameplay experience than dungeonquest. Drakon makes the players plot and scheme to pick on the winner. In Drakon every turn is a question of helping yourself or screwing your neighbor.

Yeah, I gotta say I don't get the comparison with DungeonQuest at ALL. This is a much, MUCH better game, with the only similarity to DQ being that it's in a dungeon. And this one actually requires thinking.

This game has as much similarity to DQ as tiddlywinks to Cosmic Encounters. DQ = Mindless mayhem. Drakon = semi-mathematical "beer and pretzels" tile game. Both are fun, but for different reasons.

Is the 3rd edition an improvement over this one?

Hey, I'd forgotten about this.
Used to have it. I wonder what became of my copy?
I recall years ago (late 70s!) writing a computerised version of this which was much easier to play than the rather fiddly board game.

Wow! This game looks interesting. Anyone have an english rule book? The components look like they would be simple to reproduce.

Wow! I love DragonQuest(the video game series)! I never knew their was a board game. Is this available in the US?

My mom got me this game when I was a kid. The girl at the toy store refused to sell it to her because she'd heard that D&D was about Satan worship. Lol. She finally got a manager to ring it up. I mean it's one thing to be a geek, but it's quite another to be stupid.

Just picked this up (complete!) at goodwill for 3 bucks. Hope I'm not 15 years too late to enjoy it!

At first I thought, things sure have changed, I remember when the old "satanic D&D" uproar came and went, but I don't think anyone would be too surprised to see members of the U.S. Congress railing against satanic board games today. I'd be more surprised to see a rational debate on foreign policy.

My girlfriend's mom gave this to me way back when. I loved it, although her mom was vaguely distrustful of it.
I still have the game; the girlfriend is on the big pile of old girlfriends out in the backyard.

Just for fun, I was browsing online the other day for on-line D&D stuff, just to see what was out there in the way of free or open-source playing aids, and I stumbled across one of the 'D&D is a tool of Satan!' websites. I hope beyond hope it was a remnant of old days - but, somehow, I don't remember too many websites back in the late 70's/early 80's when all the uproar was going on, so I'll reluctantly have to admit that - yes, some people are still stupid.

(And, no, I'm not going to link said website. Mostly because I'd hate to give them free hits on their site, but also becasue I didn't actually make a note of what the address was... )