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Board Game: Bitter Woods (fourth edition) [Average Rating:7.66 Overall Rank:1796]
ER Bickford
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Board Game: Bitter Woods (fourth edition) [Average Rating:7.66 Overall Rank:1796]
Jim Crimmins
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South Salem
New York
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FUN FUN FUN. That is all. I like the system.
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Rain Kirjanen
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Tallinn
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Game: Bitter Woods
Edition: Fourth
Condition: Very good, never played. Counters are clipped.
Language: English
Language dependency: High
Days in Essen: Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday
Auction ends: October 4th, random time

Also includes:
Bitter Woods - Expansion Kit


Additional information:
Below is picture of clipped counters (I use modified nail clippers) and deluxe edition numbering with designer signature.


Starting bid: 40€
BIN: 55€


Game sold to:
Berthold Rück
Germany
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Board Game: Bitter Woods (fourth edition) [Average Rating:7.66 Overall Rank:1796]
Paul Hoffmann
United States
Berkeley
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L2 Deluxe Edition. Punched and played. Box has a couple of dings, but is pretty good overall. Pieces are excellent.

Includes
Bitter Woods (4th Edition) Expansion Kit
New in shrink
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Board Game: Bitter Woods (fourth edition) [Average Rating:7.66 Overall Rank:1796]
Mark Sautman
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Evans
Georgia
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or the designer's edition
 
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Board Game: Bitter Woods (fourth edition) [Average Rating:7.66 Overall Rank:1796]
Alex Cannon
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Hassocks
West Sussex
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Board Game: Bitter Woods (fourth edition) [Average Rating:7.66 Overall Rank:1796]
Art Dohrman
United States
Huntsville
Alabama
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no way I'm ready for the tournament since I've played about 4 turns of this game, total, but would like to get a little more familiar with it!
 
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Board Game: Bitter Woods (fourth edition) [Average Rating:7.66 Overall Rank:1796]
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Greeley
Colorado
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This year will also mark the 70th anniversary of The Battle of the Bulge. This is an interesting battle that effected the war in many ways, and of the many battles in WWII, it is one of the more represented in game form. Why do think that is so? Do you have a game about the Bastogne battle that you like?
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Board Game: Bitter Woods (fourth edition) [Average Rating:7.66 Overall Rank:1796]
Larz Welo
United States
Las Cruces
New Mexico
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If things go according to plan, I will be spending about 4 days in Jogjakarta this month at Adhika's home. This is going to be the game we play over the weekend and the evenings.

I am going to be discussing a practicum partnership between the university he works for (Gajah Mada University) and the non-profit we coordinate (Kaganangan). With the extra time we'll be seeing if the Panzers can make it to Antwerp!


Canceled! Check item #128
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Board Game: Bitter Woods (fourth edition) [Average Rating:7.66 Overall Rank:1796]
Skip Franklin
United States
Oklahoma City
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ADC2, CB, VSL
 
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Board Game: Bitter Woods (fourth edition) [Average Rating:7.66 Overall Rank:1796]
Daniel Berger
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Littleton
Colorado
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Although I already have FAB: The Bulge, I thought it would be good to get a hex and counter wargame on the subject. It looked nice, and had mostly had good ratings.

Unfortunately, the game play left something to be desired. With relatively low counter density and the way the rules were written, it really became a game of ZOC chess. One bad move by the allied player in the early round could spell doom. It just didn't feel like a real wargame to me.

I later played Ardennes '44, and decided it was the better game, if a bit more gritty.
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Camas
Washington
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Replaced Panzer Grenadier: Battle of the Bulge which is mostly tactical battles anyway rather than a strategic treatment of the offensive. L2's version of Bitter Woods was a nice upgrade and does a comprehensive job of covering the offensive.
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Board Game: Bitter Woods (fourth edition) [Average Rating:7.66 Overall Rank:1796]
Daniel Berger
United States
Littleton
Colorado
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Played a couple turns, but things collapsed quickly for the allies. Too simple and too chess-like for our tastes. I traded it shortly after this.
 
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Board Game: Bitter Woods (fourth edition) [Average Rating:7.66 Overall Rank:1796]
Christopher Yaure
United States
Plymouth Meeting
Pennsylvania
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Begins Tuesday, 7/30/13
 
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Mike W
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Portland
Oregon
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Not familiar with this one..

Average ranking of 7.88 with 24 people ranking it.
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Board Game: Bitter Woods (fourth edition) [Average Rating:7.66 Overall Rank:1796]
Jason Monroe
United States
St Louis
Missouri
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$70 for Bitter Woods - Complete & unpunched (included rulebook and counters for both the 1st and 2nd edition)...and...Bitter Woods Deluxe 4th edition - complete & unpunched...and
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Board Game: Bitter Woods (fourth edition) [Average Rating:7.66 Overall Rank:1796]
Myk Deans
United States
Hillsboro
Oregon
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Game for Chuck and I
 
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Board Game: Bitter Woods (fourth edition) [Average Rating:7.66 Overall Rank:1796]
Robert Carroll
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Lawrence
Kansas
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Feb 2007* Well, yes, another Bulge game in my collection. I have them all, pretty much. Big and small. And, this is the finest Regimental Level Bulge game on the market. Don't just take my word for it. Danny S Parker, noted Battle of the Bulge expert, Historian and author gives this game the highest praise. And, Deluxe Bitter Woods is also extremely well researched. Randy Heller has dedicated all his energies to making this game the best it can be, and it shows!

Excellent graphics, gorgeous map, beautiful counters, the Deluxe Edition is the final say. Well balanced, easy to play, this game has been a favorite at conventions for years. This alone testifies to the staying power of this fantastic game. Randy Heller and Bruno Sinigaglio are to be commended for their dedication and commitment to excellence. If you love the Battle of the Bulge, this game is your only choice. Try the others, but you will play this one over and over again!

--Art Lupinacci (gamewyzard)
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Board Game: Bitter Woods (fourth edition) [Average Rating:7.66 Overall Rank:1796]
Hawkeye
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PBS covered the battle in 1994 with one of their excellent documentaries for The American Experience. You can watch it in it's entirety here:

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Board Game: Bitter Woods (fourth edition) [Average Rating:7.66 Overall Rank:1796]
Remy Gibson
United States
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Board Game: Bitter Woods (fourth edition) [Average Rating:7.66 Overall Rank:1796]
Arthur Dougherty
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Another shocker and again I don't know really which way I'm leaning, but I've got this, Ardennes 44, FAB Bulge, SCS Bastogne (again not really the same thing). I want to hold onto FAB Bulge because it could have some face-to-face play... or maybe it's just that I really want to get it to the table badly enough to extend its time on my shelf. Part of me feels like Bastogne and another title could get sold off and I'd never really feel it. I've played Bastogne and liked it, but it's not an incredibly deep experience to keep me coming back.
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To review αναφερεται στους βελτιωμενους κανονες του : Bitter Woods (4th Edition) Expansion Kit.

Αρδεννες Δεκεμβριος 1944, η τελευταια μεγαλη αντεπιθεση των Γερμανων εναντια στις Αγγλο-Αμερικανικες δυναμεις που προελαυνουν μερικους μηνες μετα την αποβαση στη Νορμανδια.

Πολυ καλα components, εξαιρετικος (και μεγαλος) ο χαρτης με ανετα hexes, ευκρινεστατος και πολυ ξεκουραστος δεδομενου οτι θα αφιερωσετε πολλες ωρες κοιτοντας τον. Τα counter ειναι διαστασης 5/8" δηλαδη αρκετα μεγαλα και ξεκουραστα για τα ματια σας για παιχνιδι αυτης της κλιμακας.

Οι μηχανισμοι στη βαση του ειναι αρκετα απλοι και κατανοητοι, η πιο συνηθισμενη φραση που μου ερχοταν καθε φορα στο μυαλο μετα απο καθε παραγραφο που διαβαζα ηταν "ενταξει, πολυ λογικο", οποτε το διαβασμα θα κυλησει αρκετα ανετα και χωρις ιδιαιτερο πονοκεφαλιασμα. Εχει αρκετες μικρο εξαιρεσεις, καποιες απο τις οποιες ισχυουν για συγκεκριμενες μερες του campaign γεγονος που σημαινει οτι θα χρειαστει ενα μικρο χαρτακι με υπενθυμισεις για να μην ξεχαστει κατι.

Το αποτελεσμα ειναι ενα παιχνιδι μεγαλης ιστορικης ακριβειας το οποιο διεπεται απο απλους σχετικα μηχανισμους οι οποιοι σε ωθουν σε στρατιωτικα λογικες επιλογες και σου δινουν την ικανοποιηση οτι ζεις τη μαχη οπως εγινε, χωρις αυτο να σημαινει οτι δεν σου αφηνει τις επιλογες να κατευθυνεις την πορεια της με διαφορετικο τροπο απο αυτον που ειχαν επιλεξει ιστορικα οι παραταξεις.

Εχει μεγαλο ευρος στρατηγικων επιλογων σε μεγαλο μετωπο, αλλα αναλογα με τις συνθηκες μπορει να εμφανιστουν και καταστασεις οπου θα απαιτηθουν καποιες κινησεις τακτικης προκειμενου να βγεις απο τη δυσκολη θεση.

Αν σας αρεσει να στηνετε παγιδες σε βαθος χρονου και να βλεπετε καταστασεις πιο "μπροστα" απο τον αντιπαλο σας, τοτε αυτο ειναι το ιδανικο παιχνιδι για εσας.

Βαθμολογια: 9/10
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Board Game: Bitter Woods (fourth edition) [Average Rating:7.66 Overall Rank:1796]
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Hard to tell if this one a further away than two mentioned above. Large box so it protrudes out of shelf. Close call.
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David Dockter
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Some of the shine is gone, but still highly coveted.

The Bulge.

Second thoughts? 3%

Precious? 5x.

Fans 2%
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Board Game: Bitter Woods (fourth edition) [Average Rating:7.66 Overall Rank:1796]
Robert Carroll
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Lawrence
Kansas
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Simply the ultimate Bulge game at this scale. Detailed enough to get a true sense of the battle, with elegant mechanics, virtually flawless rules, and outstanding graphics, all of which make playing the game a joy. L2 version.

--Roger Eastep (roger-e)

Includes Bitter Woods.
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