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Board Game: Police Precinct [Average Rating:7.02 Overall Rank:1073]
Matthieu BONIN
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Title: Police Precinct
Publisher: Common Man
Version / Year Published: 2013 (1st edition)
Language: English
Condition: Like new
Attendance at SPIEL'16: all 4 days
(in case I can't be at the meet-up –I'll have meetings most of the time–, the IELLO booth will be a convenient meeting place to get or drop games from/for me )
 
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Board Game: Police Precinct [Average Rating:7.02 Overall Rank:1073]
John Bandettini
United Kingdom
London
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Board Game: Police Precinct [Average Rating:7.02 Overall Rank:1073]
Eric Dolansky
Canada
Oakville
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Board Game: Police Precinct [Average Rating:7.02 Overall Rank:1073]
Cameron Chien
United States
Rancho Cucamonga
California
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Played a few times. Components in excellent condition. Minor box wear. Includes the Mad Men deck promo.
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Board Game: Police Precinct [Average Rating:7.02 Overall Rank:1073]
David Bernath
United States
Duarte
California
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Love co-ops and have wanted to play this one for a while
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Board Game: Police Precinct [Average Rating:7.02 Overall Rank:1073]
Michael Nielsen
Denmark
Fredericia
Denmark
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Title: Police Precinct (First Edition)
Condition: Very good
Language: English
Shipping: Free to Denmark
Sweetener: The Heat, Rioting Gangs, Mad Men Deck, Dirty Bomb, Rocket Launcher, 2nd Edition Rulebook (Aka The Kit)

All in basegame box
 
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Board Game: Police Precinct [Average Rating:7.02 Overall Rank:1073]
Jason Ritz
United States
Kelseyville
California
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Punched, but never played. In pristine shape.
 
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Board Game: Police Precinct [Average Rating:7.02 Overall Rank:1073]
Matt D
United States
Peachtree corners
Georgia
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Open and played, but in good condition.

Includes sweetener: Police Precinct: The Kit
 
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Board Game: Police Precinct [Average Rating:7.02 Overall Rank:1073]
Gordon J
United States
Eagan
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Pulled this out and played yesterday. Overall, a pretty decent game. I had to up the difficulty, as the base rules are kind of easy. So I did a mix of the 187 Variant, though I toned that down as the rules they had for that were ridiculously hard, and added in the Lying Politicians and The Heat expansions to it as well. Game went well, I almost squeezed out a victory. I needed a lot of stuff to happen on the last turn and didn't get it done.





It still makes me laugh, that on the side of the box it says "this game is used to train real police." --- Yeah right, in what, rolling dice?

Anyway, had a good time.
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Stephen Burgess
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Humble
Texas
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Like new, only played one time. Kickstarter Edition. Includes Police Precinct: The Heat.

Starting Bid: $5
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L Boucheron
United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico
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Common Man Games English Second Edition

Like new

Includes:
Police Precinct: The Heat
Police Precinct: Rocket Launcher Promo Card
Police Precinct: Crooked Lawyers
Police Precinct: Dirty Bomb Promo
Police Precinct: Rioting Gangs
Police Precinct: Mad Men Deck Promo (5 out of 6 cards, as is typical for CMG to never include all 6)
Police Precinct: Custom Dice (1 red die only)

All cards sleeved, extra Mayday Police Precinct custom sleeves included.

Free shipping to all US
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Wee Gee
United States
Metairie
Louisiana
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Game Condition: Very Good condition. Rulebook has some creases throughout the spine.
Sweetener: Police Precinct: The Kit
Version: English/First

 
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Matt D
United States
Peachtree corners
Georgia
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Open and played, but in good condition.

Includes sweetener: Police Precinct: The Kit
 
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Board Game: Police Precinct [Average Rating:7.02 Overall Rank:1073]
Ian Kissell
United States
Dallas
Texas
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This gameplay was proof that gaming can bring people together! Matt and I (graduates of Texas A&M) played a game of this with two T-sips (University of Texas graduates) and had a great time. We learned it from the rulebook, and lost one game and won the other. I am not sure if the game is too easy, but I enjoyed the games quite a bit.

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Board Game: Police Precinct [Average Rating:7.02 Overall Rank:1073]
Byron Campbell
United States
Valencia
California
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Subscription Level: Steam Early Access

Game: Police Precinct Second Edition

Solitaire Implementation: 1-player specific setup or option to "play" up to 6 "players."
 
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Board Game: Police Precinct [Average Rating:7.02 Overall Rank:1073]
Moe45673
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Toronto
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I pulled this one out for a third play. I don't recall all the details of the play but I did get much further before my big loss.

There's definitely a puzzle to work out here. It's really difficult to figure out the pattern of the game but it doesn't feel TOO loose.

klkitchens just alerted that the iOS version is out and I played 3 games of it in a row. It's a great way to try to get out of newbie territory and learn to navigate the game a bit better without the hassle of setting it up and everything (it takes up a lot of tablespace!). The app is very good with a few small UI issues (biggest one is no "Undo" feature!), but it succeeds at translating the experience to my tablet.

Of all the games I own, this is one of the first I can see playing with my daughter (years from now. Not even a month old yet!).
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Board Game: Police Precinct [Average Rating:7.02 Overall Rank:1073]
Lucas London
United States
Cedar Rapids
Iowa
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Got so screwed over in our first game that it only lasted about 20 or 30 mins before we lost. Seemed like the group would never want to play it again. Recently I saw the 2nd edition widely available and decided it was worth a retry based on the praise I've seen. Really is a great co-op, regardless of the huge luck factor
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Board Game: Police Precinct [Average Rating:7.02 Overall Rank:1073]
Moe45673
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Toronto
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This is a game that's been on my wishlist for a number of years. I've mentioned a few times how I adore good Disaster Management games and played a bunch of them. The two that have, far and away, stood above the rest are Pandemic (with expansions 1 & 2) and Robinson Crusoe.

Last week, Dawn of the Zeds 3rd edition made it to my FLGS so I snatched it right up as an impulse buy. Said FLGS also had a few copies of 2nd edition PP so I picked it up too. Well, remembering my experiences with the first two editions of DotZ (namely that there are way too many hard-to-remember rules to help keep the otherwise gripping gameplay from falling apart) and how much free time I don't have and everything, I regretted that purchase. I kept it in shrink and, luckily, a friend wanted it but they were all sold out so he bought it off me for what I paid for it.

Back to PP. The night I bought it, I sorted it. I was extremely and pleasantly surprised by the quality of the components. I thought the player boards would be bendy cardstock, like those in Shadowrun Crossfire, but nay, they are solid cardboard. So too are the Crime Tracker and Evidence Board (one is just for laying down evidence cards and the other is equivalent to the "Outbreak Tracker" from Pandemic). Both are overly produced and probably could have been combined, but every time i look at that evidence board it evokes a feeling of "cop drama", so no complaints here!

PP falls squarely into the Disaster Management Co-op genre. Your main goal is to capture a murderer that's been annoying Commonville but you've gotta keep addressing the normal goings on of police work.

Essentially, you have three things you need to watch out for. You solve them by either rolling standard D6 (emergencies, street punks) or drawing cards (investigate the murder) from one of the 4 piles on the board; while this sounds dull, it actually is the core of crazy resource management this game presents to the player because the number of dice you get to roll or the number of cards you get to draw is mitigable.

d10-1 Emergencies - these can be burglaries, traffic accidents, gas leak, domestic disputes, etc etc. The way to solve them is roll one or more D6 and hit the number (or greater) on the card with one of the dice. The emergencies come out in 4 colors; if more than one emergency on the board have the same color, things start to get tense. Solve an emergency and you get a small reward.

d10-2 Punks - Punks hang out On bad hoods. If 4 or more punks ever show up on a street corner, they become a Gang. Gangs are bad news; they don't let you do certain things as long as they're around (for example, one gang doesn't let you investigate the murder!). Additionally, gangs don't disappear until every member is put away; getting them below 4 isn't enough.

d10-3 Investigating the murder-essentially similar to curing diseases in base pandemic. Find all the cards and then arrest the murderer before he escapes.

There are a bunch of things i didn't mention like the police cards which are a big part of the resource management. You can use them to assist another cop on their turn when doing the above 3 things (roll more dice or draw more cards), or use them on your turn for what the text says.

Also, being on the same space as another cop lets you draw an extra card or roll an extra die. Of course, like in Pandemic, this means there are areas of the map unattended while your cops are all partying in one secrion.

I lost but it felt like a good loss. The resource management is amazing. Assuming the balance is somewhat there (impossible to tell after one game), it's a tough game that absolutely stands up to my standards. I can't wait to play it again.

Will speak more after game 2
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Board Game: Police Precinct [Average Rating:7.02 Overall Rank:1073]
Moe45673
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Toronto
Ontario
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Played another game of this. Lost again but enjoyed it much more than my first play. I felt better prepared to tackle it, it's really tough but it doesn't feel like it's randomly so.

I love when multiple disasters need my attention and I can't figure out which to address first! The "Police" cards are a great way to have characters helping each other out.

I seriously hope they expand this game with some big box expansions, like Pandemic has done. There's a lot of abstraction here that can be made into interesting minigames on their own (a la Pandemics' Lab module).
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Board Game: Police Precinct [Average Rating:7.02 Overall Rank:1073]
Matt D
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Peachtree corners
Georgia
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Open and played, but in good condition.

Includes sweetener: Police Precinct: The Kit
 
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Board Game: Police Precinct [Average Rating:7.02 Overall Rank:1073]
Mike Lucas
United States
Tiverton
RI
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Opened, unplayed.

Soft Reserve: $30
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GeekList: Jim's Stolen Games
Board Game: Police Precinct [Average Rating:7.02 Overall Rank:1073]
Common Man Games
United States
Denver
Colorado
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(my initial comment read)

I totally trusted Jim when he told me his story.

(and then later I wrote this...)

UPDATE:

I have been having a conversation with Jim today (ever since I posted this item in the list).

He has admited wrong-doing to me and apparently feels great remorse about what he has done.

In the conversation we have been having I have suggested several things he might consider doing to build back his reputation in the community (if that's possible) and to feel better about himself (which I think is more important).

You can (if you wish) see all of this below in a totally unedited email chain.*

* when I say "totally unedited", I should point out that I did remove my email signature from every instance it occurred just to shorten the long wall-of-text below a bit.

Note #1: I do not know Jim.

Note #2: I am not defending Jim.

Note #3: I assume that posting this will in some way help everyone involved (or at least some of the people).

Note #4: As you can see below, I did this with Jim's permission.

Note #5: Since I think this is in some way helpful, I will post a link to it in the comments section.

Sincerely,

Karl, Founder CMG

===================== THE ENTIRE EMAIL CHAIN ===================



On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 5:50 PM, James Flemming <jim.flartner@gmail.com> wrote:
It does.

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Karl Fenner <commonmangames@gmail.com> wrote:
will do.

I plan to post this entire email chain.

Please confirm that this works for you.


On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 5:47 PM, James Flemming <jim.flartner@gmail.com> wrote:
sure


On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Karl Fenner <commonmangames@gmail.com> wrote:
I recommend it.

your choice though.


On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 5:37 PM, James Flemming <jim.flartner@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know. Do you think that would do more harm than good?


On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Karl Fenner <commonmangames@gmail.com> wrote:
do you want me to post what you said to me?


On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 5:34 PM, James Flemming <jim.flartner@gmail.com> wrote:
Karl,

Thanks for taking the time to talk with me. At this point I don't feel like I deserve to have my reputation rebuilt.

But I really do appreciate your suggestions.

I haven't tried to get my side out. I'm not sure how, for starters, as I have (very rightly, been banned from BGG).

Thanks again,
Jim


On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 7:30 PM, Karl Fenner <commonmangames@gmail.com> wrote:
I do agree that part of the price you pay for this should be to take the whole loss and not try to spread it to others.

Another thing you could do is make a list of all the publishers you approached and slowly over time try to repay them.

Examples of what you could do it...

Back their kickstarter to get the new game at full Kickstarter pricing (no deals), and even go as far as to...

Volunteer time helping them at cons, and to possibly start a game club at a local community center that serves under privileged youth, etc.

These are just ideas.

Doing these things could help rebuild your reputation and make you feel better about yourself.

Good luck!



Karl

PS - have you tried (yet) to tell the community what you just told me via that list or by other means?



On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 5:16 PM, James Flemming <jim.flartner@gmail.com> wrote:
Karl,

To start - I have no excuse. I have acted despicably.

I was the victim of a crime. But not earlier this week, last month, in March.

I did have a copy of Police Precinct in the car, and a large number of other games (I was in the middle of a move at the time, and was moving a carload of games at the time of the incident - 1 blue IKEA bag in the front seat, 3 in the back, and 3 in the trunk - but not a copy of every game I claimed I had.

I was the victim of a crime, but I did lie about when it happened. I thought if I told people it happened more recently than it did, I might be able to garner more sympathy, and thus, more free stuff. That is despicable, disgusting, and not at all like the person I picture myself being.

I let myself fall into a self-pity-pit and me emailing good people like yourself asking for handouts was nothing more than me allowing myself to wallow. "My car was broken into and I lost some replaceable goods - 'Oh, woe is me!'"

We did have renter's insurance, but it turns out the policy my wife got for us didn't include me. So when we filed the claim, it was rejected because the property we were claiming was stolen was mine.

Either way, I am truly sorry for trying to take advantage of your good nature. I know it is so easy for me to say now, in retrospect, and such a cliche, but I'm glad I was caught. That isn't who I want to be, and not how I want to act. I know I'm not a bad person, but I acted like a grade-A asshole. The only glimmer of good here is that going through this, and feeling as low and as much sincere self-loathing as I do now, I know I'll never act in this way again.

I know nothing I can say will change the way you (or I) feel about myself right now. But there it is.

Attached is a police report an officer brought to me after some of my stolen goods were found in another district of the city. They contacted me because among the items turned in was my ID.

Sincerely,
Jim

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Karl Fenner <commonmangames@gmail.com> wrote:





On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 4:29 PM, James Flemming <jim.flartner@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Karl. I'm not near a computer at the moment, but I have some documents I will send you later.

For the moment, I'll just say that I will not be taking you up on your generous offer- not because I lied to you, but because even though I didn't lie to you, I still feel like I'm taking advantage of your kindness.

Thank again for giving me the benefit of the doubt. I'll be back in touch soon.
On May 9, 2016 6:06 PM, "Karl Fenner" <commonmangames@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jim,

I want you to know about this...

https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/208599/item/4623043#item4...

I have no side in this matter.

I am not pro-Jim nor anti-Jim, but just wanted to say...

Please don't take advantage of hard working publishers.

I do NOT have enough information about you to think that you are, so do NOT take that as an accusation.

I am posting on the list in a totally neutral way because I think it's my duty.

Both my duty to post AND to do it in a neutral way.

All I said was...

"I totally trusted Jim when he told me his story."

I meant that to be as neutral as possible.

I was once accused of something that I did not do, so I am very sensitive to making accusations, and I do not want to be a party to that ever, and am not a party to that here.

Sincerely,

Karl



On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 6:43 AM, Karl Fenner <commonmangames@gmail.com> wrote:
Sure!!!





On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 7:28 PM, James Flemming <jim.flartner@gmail.com> wrote:
You rock.

I'll wait to check out the campaign and get back to you?

Thank you, thank you!!!


On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Karl Fenner <commonmangames@gmail.com> wrote:
Sure!

I'm currently trying to line-up some demo copies, so how about this...

A. KICKSTARTER:
During the Upcoming Kickstarter pledge at the $25 level and get a demo copy for $15 with free shipping along with some extras that put you at or above $25. (just remind me after the KS is over about the $15 demo copy offer)

-- OR --

B. AFTER KICKSTARTER:
If nothing appeals to you enough to do option A (or finances are too tight), pick back up this conversation after the KS ends by replying again to this email, and I'll ship you the Demo for a Paypal of $15 (free shipping).

Sound good?



Karl



On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 4:50 PM, James Flemming <jim.flartner@gmail.com> wrote:
Karl,

Wow!!! Thank you!!! I'd be interested in the second option- I have to watch my wallet since I have to replace my personal/work laptop.

Thank you, thank you!!
On May 6, 2016 2:49 PM, "Karl Fenner" <commonmangames@gmail.com> wrote:
USA, perfect!!!!

How about if we (you and I) share in the loss?

Meaning, we would pay part of the cost (so to speak -- via a ridiculously large discount) and you would pay part of the cost.

Plan A:
I sell you a game at 60% off MSRP with Free shipping in conjunction with our upcoming Kickstarter. That would be a brand new game in shrink for $24 (that's less than what stores pay).

Plan B:
The other option is to send you a Dent and ding game for even less (like a beat up demo copy).

Thoughts?



Karl



On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 12:34 PM, James Flemming <jim.flartner@gmail.com> wrote:
I live in the USA.


On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Karl Fenner <commonmangames@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Jim!

Of course it is a lot to ask, but I like that you were willing to do it!

Question...

Remind me where you live (USA, EU, etc)





On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 12:22 PM, James Flemming <jim.flartner@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello!

Earlier this week, my car was broken into (http://goo.gl/DyiCvy). In addition to taking my backpack, which contained my wallet, social security card, and $2000 laptop, (which I need for work) they also took a bunch of games I had in the backseat.

Among them was my copy of Police Precinct. =(

I know there is likely no precedent for this, and that you being able to help me out is not likely, but I figured I would ask - is there any way Common Man Games would be able to replace any of the games I lost?

Again, I know this is asking a lot, but I thought I would reach out and check.

Thanks so much!
Jim


================== End of Email Thread =========================

=================== Added a Day Later (below) ====================

Reflections From "The Morning After"...

I feel like Jim used me as a tool in this. He could see that I was slow to think the worst of him so he played me.

That said...

I really DO hope that he takes my advice and gives back to the world in some way. I know this is HIGHLY unlikely, but I can still hope.

Here's how this situation has all unfolded in my little world...

Over this past weekend Jim approached me and we worked out a plan for how we (Common Man) could help him with his unfortunate situation.

Then I saw a tweet yesterday from Minion about this and came here to look at this list so that I could see what it was all about. I very quickly realized that this guy (Jim) might be scamming a lot of people, so I (rather than reading the entire thread) quickly posted my item. As soon as I was done doing that, I then told Jim that I had seen this list and even posted my item to it. I wanted to hear his thoughts on this matter. I also wanted to him to know that this wasn't a matter of me "talking behind his back". In essence, I wanted to "look him in the eye" and ask him about this directly.

That's how the conversation started, and please know that during the conversation, I was both working and going back and forth with him (not reading the thread any deeper), so all I really knew is that a good number of people were apparently quite concerned that he might be scamming the system so-to-speak (I had no idea of the real depth of it).

During the talk we had (via email) he admitted that he was doing very bad things in this case and said he deeply regretted his actions. I offered to let him tell the world of gamers what he had already told me via my posting our entire chat (since he had already by that point been banned from BGG and was unable to do this himself). He agreed, and I did so.

I have no regrets about that, but I want to say that it was AFTER that point in time that I started reading more of the thread and realizing that this guy had been doing this at a criminal level for years.

This made me feel like I had been used and played by a master con artist.

I felt sad, angry, and much more -- but due to the way this community is to its core I did NOT feel alone.

I wish to sayTHANKS to all of you for your great outrage and clear stand on this kind of behavior. This industry/hobby is a very unique one, and one that I'm quite proud to be a part of.

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Part of the Healing Process for me...

Involves creating this:



Not fully sure why, but seeing this somehow makes me happy!



PS - I just updated the card to reflect The REAL Officer who reported the incident! (Officer J.T. Call -- The O.P.) J.T. we all thank you, GREAT Job!!!



Final Thoughts:
(written in the days following)
At times I feel like I don't ever want Jim to come back to our community, but when I reflect deeper I have to say that I truly hope that this story is not over and that in the end, after a long hard road to recovery (meant in every sense) Jim becomes a person that we all know, love, and trust. For me, this could not happen overnight. I would have to see many years of dedication on his part. No matter what, I hope for the best for Jim.
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