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Board Game: Panzergruppe Guderian [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1332]
Alex Radcliffe BoardGameCo
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Board Game: Panzergruppe Guderian [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1332]
Alex Radcliffe BoardGameCo
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Board Game: Panzergruppe Guderian [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1332]
Pete Martyn
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I'm cheating a little bit here because I am still technically playing this one! I don't log plays until the game is concluded but I've been soloing this SPI classic over a few sessions and keeping it stored in my map case. (I may yet finish before the end of the month)

For a few years this has been the highest-rated game in my collection to have gone unplayed. A friend and I got it set up several years ago but never came back to it. And that's a shame! This one still holds up pretty darn well and the untried Soviet units make it very fun to solo. Very glad to be experiencing this title, finally!
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Board Game: Panzergruppe Guderian [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1332]
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Poll: The 2016 AH Cup
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41 Panzergruppe Guderian (Rotherham United)
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44 Vietnam 1965-1975 (Bolton Wanderers)
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Closes: Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:00 am
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Board Game: Panzergruppe Guderian [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1332]
Alex Radcliffe BoardGameCo
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Board Game: Panzergruppe Guderian [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1332]
I found this in a thrift store so the box is worn. I counted all the chits and there is the correct number. I am not a war gamer so please feel free to ask questions to clarify condition.

I believe the edition is the spi designers edition but am not quite sure. Definitely a boxed edition, not magazine version.


note that the bgg page mentions "1 Soviet reference card, 1 German reference card, and 1 advanced rules insert" the rule book in this edition does not list those items in the game equipment and they are not included here.
 
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Board Game: Panzergruppe Guderian [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1332]
Mo Caraher

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Board Game: Panzergruppe Guderian [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1332]
Alex Radcliffe BoardGameCo
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Condition Notes: 2 torn corners
 
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I found this in a thrift store so the box is worn. I counted all the chits and there is the correct number. I am not a war gamer so please feel free to ask questions to clarify condition.

I believe the edition is the spi designers edition but am not quite sure. Definitely a boxed edition, not magazine version.
 
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Board Game: Panzergruppe Guderian [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1332]
Eric Walters
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Chesterfield
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I ordered this game as an SPI flat pack game given the buzz about it in my high school wargaming circles and eventually got another copy as a S&T back issue, still unpunched. When Avalon Hill game out with their version, then I got that as well. Was disappointed when L2 talked about a new edition but never delivered. I still hold out hope for that.

I have very different reasons for an emotional connection to this game than the other titles I've posted.

By the time I got this game, I'd played a number of the Avalon Hill classics that I'd received as Christmas and birthday presents. So my diet of operational-level games were on the order of AH's STALINGRAD, AFRIKA KORPS, D-DAY, WATERLOO, TACTICS II, BLITZKRIEG, and BATTLE OF THE BULGE. Just before this game I'd gotten AH's FRANCE: 1940 and SPI's MOSCOW CAMPAIGN as Christmas presents and played them a little bit, but not as much as the other titles I mentioned which became obsessions.

As soon as I began to play PANZERGRUPPE GUDERIAN, all those other games were swept away--even BLITZKRIEG. There was a lot in PGG that seemed familiar; the sequence of play was lifted right out of the two SPI "Divisional Series" games, FRANCE: 1940 and MOSCOW CAMPAIGN. But here were untried units, Soviet headquarters, and a "meeting engagement" situation that seemed to defy initial analysis. It was quite a puzzle and took me far more time to "crack" than the other titles did.

While the competitive aspect of the game was on par with some of the AH classics (and far better than FRANCE: 1940 or MOSCOW CAMPAIGN), what I liked most was the asymmetrical situation facing the players--both sides had to be fought very differently from each other--and the way the system illustrated Guderian's maxims regarding massing mobile forces in decisive ways. And that's the thing about the game; there are just so many tantalizing opportunities for the Germans, but if they reach for too many at once, Soviet "flypaper" tactics will bog down such a dissipated advance.

When teaching maneuver warfare tactics to Marine officers, I often reached for this game, giving them the Germans. As is common for beginners, they were easily lured into traps--and that's why I used this game. In the 1980s, some thought maneuver warfare was "winging it" instead of the higher intellectual demands that his style of fighting required. PGG was a terrific antidote to that. When my new charges complained the game was rigged in favor of the Soviets, we would switch sides and the experience as fighting as the more ponderous Soviets was, as we'd say, character-forming.

So my emotional connection to this game is that it's my favorite training tool in putting would-be "footloose and fancy-free" Rommels in their place. Even though I like MMP/IGS's A VICTORY DENIED far better as a simulation of this particular campaign, PGG is still my go-to title to teach maneuver warfare in the German School tradition (per Robert Leonhard's characterization of it in his book, THE ART OF MANEUVER).
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The Avalon hill version of this game was at one point my favorite game of all time. Today the game seems dated and difficult to find interest in.
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Board Game: Panzergruppe Guderian [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1332]
Alex Radcliffe BoardGameCo
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Condition: Good

Condition Notes: 2 torn corners
 
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Board Game: Panzergruppe Guderian [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1332]
Patrick Schifano

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Board Game: Panzergruppe Guderian [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1332]
I found this in a thrift store so the box is worn. I counted all the chits and there is the correct number. I am not a war gamer so please feel free to ask questions to clarify condition.


I believe the edition is the spi designers edition but am not quite sure. Definitely a boxed edition, not magazine version.
 
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Board Game: Panzergruppe Guderian [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1332]
Tim Parker
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This is a players copy but it is in excellent shape. The box has some wear on the corners. This is the Avalon Hill version. I bought this used but components are in very good shape.

Starting Bid: $10
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Board Game: Panzergruppe Guderian [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1332]
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Board Game: Panzergruppe Guderian [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1332]
Alex Radcliffe BoardGameCo
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Alex Radcliffe BoardGameCo
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Board Game: Panzergruppe Guderian [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1332]
Kevin Whitmore
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The untested Russian units is a brilliant design feature. I have not played this game enough - so it must stay on the shelf.
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Alex Radcliffe BoardGameCo
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Condition: Very Good

Edition: Avalon Hill edition
 
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Danielle Gray
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Great condition. Unpunched. Magazine included.

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Board Game: Panzergruppe Guderian [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1332]
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Gonna have a whole day on this game. It's been awhile since I stopped the panzers.
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Alex Radcliffe BoardGameCo
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Edition: Avalon Hill edition
 
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Board Game: Panzergruppe Guderian [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1332]
Zigi Hogan
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This looks like a very interesting game, has mounted mapboard.

Reserve $10.00

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Board Game: Panzergruppe Guderian [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1332]
Rick Goudeau
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Branching out:
For me it was when my brother got me a subscription to S&T for my birthday, A very well received gift. How fascinating it was to have a history article usually by the designer/developer along with a game on the topic. One thing I did enjoy about it was you got to see some of the thought processes that went into the game.

My friend and I would try out each issue, some were hits other misses. PGG was one of the hits. Some interesting things were that you had to consolidate the Panzer divisions to hit hard but then you want to spread them out to exploit. For the Soviets having units where the owner doesn't know the strength until committed was real hoot. We tried all sorts of option and strategies.
Others I enjoyed from that era:
Winter War - Random events and very asymmetric
Frederick the Great - Where maneuver is paramount and combat should be avoided unless you can win.
Panzer Armee Afrika - wow 40 to 60 hex movement factors?!
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