Guild: On Board Games

Thread: Re: My assossiation going strong

Awakening — 2008-08-08T14:00:52+00:00

Walsfeo wrote:
Nope, no A4 over here. Just Letter

Hmm, it's slightly wider and shorter then an A4, I'll see how I'll solve that.

Ambrose wrote:
That is sooooo INTJ. ;)

Hi Corin! Yeah, I guess :)

For those who don't know what we are talking about, INTJ is a designation for my personality type. It's also called Mastermind :) INTJ is a good system analyzer and creator but also a visionary.

Thread: Re: My assossiation going strong

Ambrose — 2008-08-08T05:32:55+00:00

Awakening wrote:
Ah, it feels great now that my plans are coming together :)
That is sooooo INTJ. ;)

Thread: Re: My assossiation going strong

Walsfeo — 2008-08-07T21:48:42+00:00

Awakening wrote:
As I was making adjustments to the card game rules I was thinking, can you print out A4s? The rules are written in Word onto both sides of a horizontal A4, as you fold it you get a 4 sided manual. IIRC you don't use A4 paper over there in US.
Nope, no A4 over here. Just Letter

Thread: Re: My assossiation going strong

Awakening — 2008-08-07T20:07:54+00:00

As I was making adjustments to the card game rules I was thinking, can you print out A4s? The rules are written in Word onto both sides of a horizontal A4, as you fold it you get a 4 sided manual. IIRC you don't use A4 paper over there in US.

Thread: Re: My assossiation going strong

Awakening — 2008-08-07T16:38:08+00:00

Walsfeo wrote:
Sign me up then, I'd be interested in play testing.

Great :) I've decided to complete the card game first as that's what my game group likes to play. I have bought some printable business cards that I'll be using. The game requires 100 cards, 10 cards per A4. The cards will be in color but I'm using a design that goes easy on the ink.

I'll be using a program (free for download) that allows me to place images and print on the cards. If it's OK with you I'll send the files for the program (can be used for any paper and cut manually), if not I guess I could put something else together.

Because we play a lot of games these days I'm not sure when the cards will be complete, making the symbols will take a bit of time.

Thread: Re: My assossiation going strong

Walsfeo — 2008-08-06T14:46:16+00:00

Sign me up then, I'd be interested in play testing.

Thread: Re: My assossiation going strong

Awakening — 2008-08-06T13:24:53+00:00

Walsfeo wrote:
Whatever works for you. Legibility is a big plus! If you get the game converted to electronic files you'd be able to just email it - if you felt comfortable doing so. That would allow all three of us to look it over - we live hours apart.

Emailing the stuff is fine by me and if all 3, 4 or 5 of you want to take a look then that would be great :) Now I definitely have to get those new components going, that is I need to make the images for them. I'll be doing all the components on my PC so it's easy to get them emailed. Thanks :)

Walsfeo wrote:
I would guess that would depend on the publisher, how much we revealed, and how close it is to being completed.
As far as the show is concerned, we could talk about it in vague terms or give a standard review. On the other hand we could just be playtesters if you didn't want us to review it.

I think the best solution would be that you start out as play testers and I can talk to whoever is interested in publishing it (if anyone) whether they would like a review or not, if you want to review the games. It's a bit hard for me to get the game play tested with more then a handful of people so that would be great on its own.

Thread: Re: My assossiation going strong

Walsfeo — 2008-08-06T12:41:42+00:00

Awakening wrote:
That depends on whether you want the crappy hand drawn prototypes or the still in the making higher quality prototypes :)
Whatever works for you. Legibility is a big plus! If you get the game converted to electronic files you'd be able to just email it - if you felt comfortable doing so. That would allow all three of us to look it over - we live hours apart.

Awakening wrote:
BTW, what are the reactions from publishers if I would send you the prototypes? Would it be good for me if you make a review or would they prefer nobody knew of the games?I would guess that would depend on the publisher, how much we revealed, and how close it is to being completed.
As far as the show is concerned, we could talk about it in vague terms or give a standard review. On the other hand we could just be playtesters if you didn't want us to review it.

Thread: Re: My assossiation going strong

Awakening — 2008-08-06T09:36:36+00:00

That depends on whether you want the crappy hand drawn prototypes or the still in the making higher quality prototypes :)

Seriously though, if you wanna take a look and don't mind the hand drawn variants I could probably have my current prototypes sent to you next week. I need to fix up the rules a bit and print them out as well as take some photos. I don't need them myself anymore because I'm working on better ones. I rather send them away because making prototypes takes time. I would really appreciate your feedback and maybe some publicity :)

My card game is drawn on the back of my old business cards and are very easy to handle. The gameplay is as far as I know unique, I've never seen a game even closely like it. It takes 15-20 minutes to play and the basic rules are smooth and takes about 5 minutes to learn. The hardest rule seems to be remembering to draw a card every time it's your turn. There are only 5 different cards in the game. It's playable for 3-6 players, I think more will break it but I'm not sure. It usually picks up in speed after a few turns. There are also a handful of optional advanced rules to mix in but the basics allows for some tricky moves to be pulled off.

My abstract game is a bit more flimsy to play with. The board is made out of 2 120g papers glued together side by side and the tokens are folded 120g paper glued together and hand drawn in 4 colors. The game got some similarities with Hey! That's my fish and is about as easy to learn. However, it's a step up in depth and a game takes only a fraction of the time to set up. My biggest problem with "my fish" is the time it takes to build a good "board" to play on. It's for 2-4 players.

BTW, what are the reactions from publishers if I would send you the prototypes? Would it be good for me if you make a review or would they prefer nobody knew of the games?

Thread: Re: Any license

Walsfeo — 2008-08-06T03:05:56+00:00

caradoc wrote:
I also think there could be some awesome game designs based off The Labyrinth or The Dark Crystal movies by the Jim Henson companies.Ooooh... a Muppet Show version of [GAMEID=904]/[GAMEID=73]. Now that would be great!

Thread: Re: My assossiation going strong

Walsfeo — 2008-08-06T02:24:20+00:00

Awakening wrote:
We also played my two designs. Sadly I'm the only one who likes my abstract game :( I would probably rate it 8 or 9, it's really easy to get into and a game doesn't take more then 10-15 minutes. I have better success with my card game though, the rules and deck seems complete. It's a great casual game that brings a lot of smiles and laughs, I rate it 7-8.

AHEM...

When do we get our review copies?

:arrrh: :arrrh: :arrrh:

Thread: Re: My assossiation going strong

Awakening — 2008-08-05T21:07:50+00:00

I'll try writing something down as soon as I have time, maybe I'll start on it tomorrow.

We kept at it for 12 hours today, including breaks. [url=http://boardgamegeek.com/geekplay.php?action=plays&userid=203090&date=2008-08-05]This is what we played.

We also played my two designs. Sadly I'm the only one who likes my abstract game :( I would probably rate it 8 or 9, it's really easy to get into and a game doesn't take more then 10-15 minutes. I have better success with my card game though, the rules and deck seems complete. It's a great casual game that brings a lot of smiles and laughs, I rate it 7-8.

Thread: Re: Any license

ExcitingJeff — 2008-08-05T20:34:55+00:00

I've spent a lot of time toying around with the idea of turning The Wire into an area control/ deduction game with asymmetrical sides.

Thread: Re: Any license

Walsfeo — 2008-08-05T12:35:47+00:00

I'd like to see a Diskworld adventure game like Prophesy/Talisman. Something fast moving.

Oh, and Sheri S Tepper's "The True Game".

Thread: Re: My assossiation going strong

caradoc — 2008-08-05T10:01:20+00:00

I don't think it can hurt to get yourself some publicity in this regard, and I and many others like reading about people who have run and organised successful game events/programs.

I would think about posting something on one of the boards here, and maybe either a forum board over at Gamesforeducators - or email Pat http://www.gamesforeducators.com/index.php?option=com_contact&view=contact&id=2%3Awriters&catid=41%3Agames-for-educators&Itemid=57

Goodluck with it - sounds great!

Cheers,

Giles.

Thread: Re: My assossiation going strong

Awakening — 2008-08-05T07:56:07+00:00

Sure Giles, no problem! Should I write something in one of the many boards here on BGG or do you have a better idea?

We got another new member coming in today :) There will be El Grande and probably some Starcraft (we like Starcraft) and maybe some Carcassonne or Puerto Rico.

Thread: Re: My assossiation going strong

caradoc — 2008-08-05T07:45:33+00:00

That's awesome Magnus!! I was very interested when you first posted about this! Great to read it is going so well!

I would be interested in reading more...

If you're interested - I know that some people at www.gamesforeducators.com would be interested in reading about what you are doing, why you are doing it and how it is going...

Hope all is well!

Cheers,

Giles.

Thread: Re: Any license

caradoc — 2008-08-05T07:42:01+00:00

Awesome! Thanks Anni!

Cheers,

Giles.

Thread: Re: Any license

Ibaimendi — 2008-08-05T02:37:35+00:00

caradoc wrote:

I also would like to see a *good* adventure game based on Harry Potter.

[url=http://mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=/comicconneca/hogwartshcc2.jpg]*whistles innocently*

(I playtested it. It's fun. And it's definitely an adventure game.)

Thread: My assossiation going strong

Awakening — 2008-08-04T16:15:14+00:00

Yesterday we had another new player attending our game session and he is interested in playing more. We went through Starfarers of Catan, A Game of Thrones and Memoir 44 on 4 players yesterday and played for 6½ hours.

Because I got a deal for teaching out board games we are getting pretty big grants now that we are playing as much as we do. If we keep the speed up throughout August we will have payed all our debts and compensations as well as bought some more games before the month is over. Not only that but we will now start buying in food so we can play many hours straight.

Ah, it feels great now that my plans are coming together :) As we get more games and more serious gamers as well as experience with the game and the rules it's easier to invite new players to try out some games.

Thread: Re: Any license

Awakening — 2008-08-04T09:21:49+00:00

caradoc wrote:
Failing that, I wouldn't mind a "shoot 'em up" style game based on the movie Hot Fuzz - that would be fun.

I love that movie!

RecklessJester wrote:
It would also be interesting to see a game based around the Traders or even the search for the serpents.

A game of trading, piracy and sea warfare + a dragon :) There are tons of possible game designs to come out of those books.

RecklessJester wrote:
Great, now I have to go back and reread the books. You're a bad influence! :angry: :D

:D I'm just amazed no one have bought the license for any of Hobb's books so far. They don't do well as movies though.

Thread: Re: Games and culture

Awakening — 2008-08-04T09:14:07+00:00

Giles:
I don't doubt students drinking a lot all over the world, well most western countries anyway. I don't think people in Sweden study to stand out, there are tons who do, it's almost expected these days. In a way this is a problem for the economy because it shortens the time people actually work with about 4 years.

Yeah, retail is a tricky market. It's hard to get it but when you do you can sell millions, of course you have to have a game that can really appeal to the general market. Wits & Wagers did just that IIRC.

Warhammer seems to be quite popular here in Sweden, also Magic does really well. Fantasy in general is very popular over here. Sci-fi is not as big here as in US.

Have you read the tie breakers paragraph in Starcraft? It's huge! There are two ways to win the game: get 15 points or complete your special victory. If two players complete their special victories at the same time the points decide. And after that:

Most resources
Most areas
Most bases
Most workers

To bad they didn't make a bullet point list in the rules, would have been far easier to read.

Thread: Re: Any license

philmcd — 2008-08-04T07:36:23+00:00

The THOMAS COVENANT chronicles and WEAVEWORLD would make superb settings for games. Saltheart Foamfollower is a brilliant character name.

WEAVEWORLD by Clive Barker is possibly the best fiction book I have ever read, and I have read and enjoyed LOTR on several occasions.

Thread: Re: Any license

RecklessJester — 2008-08-04T06:20:34+00:00

The Farseer Trilogy would be a great setting for an RPG.

It would also be interesting to see a game based around the Traders or even the search for the serpents.

Great, now I have to go back and reread the books. You're a bad influence! :angry: :D

Thread: Re: Games and culture

Karlsen — 2008-08-04T04:15:16+00:00

Awakening wrote:

And I doubt Monopoly would be released today, it doesn't stand a chance against the modern board games. Monopoly only does well because it's so well known.

That's exactly what Mike Hirtle from Hasbro has said. If it didn't exist and it was brought to him as a new game it would get rejected. However it has the history and still generates sales.

Thread: Re: Any license

ekted — 2008-08-04T01:46:47+00:00

If I had the full license for Dune (in the Dune world), I would take it to Z-Man, and do the rules myself.

Thread: Re: Any license

bvongunten — 2008-08-03T22:49:20+00:00

Awakening wrote:
If you could get a license for any IP, what would you want to make a game of and what kind of game would you make?

I've made a short geeklist of games (some based on a license) that sadly never hit the market:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/33585

Greetings,

Bernhard

Thread: Re: Games and culture

caradoc — 2008-08-03T21:49:49+00:00

The University culture is probably very different in Sweden, I had Norweigan friends when I was at University who were doing their Masters degrees in order to 'stand out' - as they said most people had a degree of some sort in Norway. It isn't the case in Australia, and not the case in America either from what I have read. I still think that a majority of people attending University are into the style of 'party' scene as you describe it, perhaps not as much, but it is certainly very prevalent. When I was at Uni there were few to no game clubs, although lots and lots of pub-crawls and drinking clubs.

I imagine the faculties would see something of a different clientele as well - with 'geekier' subjects seeing more people with a predisposition to be gamers... :p

I don't think Monopoly would get published today if the 'culture' for it didn't exist. I recall Mike Hirtle from Hasbro commenting that a game today must sell XX million copies *for sure* before they will consider publishing it, so games have to have a 'hook'. It also surprises me how much the retail chains have an influence - sometimes even outlining the ideal box size. A game like Monopoly has some difficult rules if they are not a part of the 'culture' you are familiar with.

The comment you make about wargames is interesting - when looking at the greater hobby of gaming I wonder whether war-games are as popular in some European countries, although in a different form - as Miniatures Table Top Games - the UK and France (from what I understand) have particularly large hobbies centered around these style of games.

Although I do agree that American Gamers tend to be more 'at home' with direct conflict games - and always find it interesting that many games I know that have no rules for tie breakers have quite a few threads on the topic of 'how to decide a winner' by Americans. I find Faidutti's comments about American's needing to have a single 'winner' to be interesting - check out his game [GAMEID=2535] - there are some threads there asking about tie breakers for this game. It doesn't seem to be as much of a problem in France at least, to have multiple winners and keep everyone happy - at least according to Faidutti.

At least we are all united in our obssessive love for this hobby :D

Cheers,

Giles.

Thread: Re: Any license

caradoc — 2008-08-03T21:34:49+00:00

My favourite book is The Lord of the Rings - though there are already a few games out there that reflect it... ;)

I also would like to see a *good* adventure game based on Harry Potter.

Failing that, I wouldn't mind a "shoot 'em up" style game based on the movie Hot Fuzz - that would be fun.

I also think there could be some awesome game designs based off The Labyrinth or The Dark Crystal movies by the Jim Henson companies.

A very good question!!

Cheers,

Giles.

Thread: Any license

Awakening — 2008-08-03T20:56:59+00:00

If you could get a license for any IP, what would you want to make a game of and what kind of game would you make?

I would make a game out of Robin Hobb's Farseer Trilogy (AKA the assassin books) because those are the best books I've ever read. I would make a strategy focusing on the war with the Outer Islands including the red ship raiders, the forged and the betrayal. It would be cool to add in Fitz (the main character) as well, kinda like what they got going in [GAMEID=9609] where the fellowship tries to destroy the ring during the war.

Thread: Re: Now accepting donations

Walsfeo — 2008-08-02T14:54:47+00:00

LarryKruger wrote:
Donated!

Keep up the good work. I love the zany jokes, the thoughtful reviews, and your good natured approach to the discussion of games.Thanks for the compliments and for the donation!

LarryKruger wrote:
One idea I have for a future podcast (if you haven't already done this) is a comparison of board games to other game-related pastimes (i.e. 4th Ed. D&D, traditional card games, outdoor games, pub/bar games, etc...).That's a good idea! We'll have to get some folks on who do something besides games so we can talk about it...

Thread: Re: Now accepting donations

LarryKruger — 2008-08-02T05:04:44+00:00

Donated!

Keep up the good work. I love the zany jokes, the thoughtful reviews, and your good natured approach to the discussion of games.

One idea I have for a future podcast (if you haven't already done this) is a comparison of board games to other game-related pastimes (i.e. 4th Ed. D&D, traditional card games, outdoor games, pub/bar games, etc...).

Thread: Re: Music Contest Microbadge!

Walsfeo — 2008-08-02T00:34:40+00:00

clockwirk wrote:
So, do we get one for free? ;)I've asked Aldie, we'll see what he says!

Thread: Re: Music Contest Microbadge!

clockwirk — 2008-08-01T19:15:24+00:00

So, do we get one for free? ;)

Thread: Can't make WBC

Walsfeo — 2008-08-01T14:44:20+00:00

Hey guys, I was talking to a couple listeners about meeting at WBC, but I don't know who all might have been part of the discussion.

Unfortunately I have to spend the bulk of my time looking for work and need to pinch pennies until I find it. I will still take the time to put out podcasts, but gas is a non trivial expense these days.

Thread: Re: Music Contest Microbadge!

Walsfeo — 2008-08-01T14:32:21+00:00

I like it!

Great job.

-Donald

Thread: Music Contest Microbadge!

30ought6 — 2008-08-01T12:33:01+00:00

I suggested this in the microbadge thread:

On Board Games music contest participant:
[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/JSam/OBG_musicc_microbadge.gif[/IMG]

Thread: Re: Now accepting donations

Awakening — 2008-08-01T12:11:55+00:00

Yeah, I try spreading the word whenever I can. It's easier to direct people over to Scott's videos though, people need a bigger interest to listen to your podcast :)

If ever I get paid for one of my game designs (or get a permanent job) I'll promise to make a donation.

BTW, my thoughts on the book will get to you one of these days. I played board games for [url=http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geekplay.php?action=plays&userid=203090&date=2008-07-31]8 hours straight yesterday, I just found another player. A friend is coming over for Memoir 44 today but I'll think I can get a few lines down after that.

Thread: Re: Now accepting donations

Walsfeo — 2008-08-01T11:19:41+00:00

Awakening wrote:
I would donate if I had a stable income :soblue:I understand completely. That's the only reason I had to start asking for donations. It's not that expensive to put out a podcast - until you don't have cash coming in.

If you are looking for other ways to contribute we could probably come up with ways that didn't involve cash. Spreading the word always helps! (And just participating in the forums is the biggest boost of all.)

Thread: Re: Now accepting donations

Walsfeo — 2008-08-01T11:15:14+00:00

JoeyHemlock wrote:
Long overdue, that donation was. Keep up the good work. Thanks for the kind words and the donation. Now you'll have to keep putting up with our chatter.

bvongunten wrote:
Happily donated, but when do I get my OBG-Patron Badge? :devil:Thanks Bernhard! I wonder if I could talk Aldie into letting us hand out OBG Patron badges of some kind. That'd be a great idea if we could work it out.

Thread: Re: Now accepting donations

bvongunten — 2008-07-31T20:39:39+00:00

Happily donated, but when do I get my OBG-Patron Badge? :devil:

Greetings from Switzerland

Bernhard

Thread: Re: Now accepting donations

Awakening — 2008-07-31T19:14:02+00:00

I would donate if I had a stable income :soblue:

Thread: Re: On Board Games Episode 27 Monopoly and More

Walsfeo — 2008-07-31T11:19:04+00:00

Swamigoon wrote:
Here's a future episode idea related to this one: a show honoring classic game designers, such as Sid Sackson?I really like the idea of designer centric round tables. That might be doubly interesting if we could have interviews with the designers along the way. (Not possible with some of the classic game designers.)

The thing is - I don't follow any given game designer well enough to talk about a body of works so Scott (or someone) would need to take the lead on those. If we don't have enough knowledge on our round table panel it might be cool to have "designer discussions" in the guild forum.

Swamigoon wrote:
I enjoy my copy of Sackson's [GAMEID=198] pirate-themed card game, and I'd bet a review of it by Donald Dennis would be a fun listen. ;)Hmm, never played it, but I'd be very excited to review it.

Thread: Re: On Board Games Episode 27 Monopoly and More

Swamigoon — 2008-07-31T07:20:56+00:00

Thanks for the respectful and honest reviews of some classic games. It made me miss one of my favorite podcasters, James Van Verth of [url=http://www.boardgamegeek.com/guild/36]The Vintage Gamer (which unfortunately seems to be on hiatus while Jim attends to more important tasks).

Here's a future episode idea related to this one: a show honoring classic game designers, such as Sid Sackson? I enjoy my copy of Sackson's [GAMEID=198] pirate-themed card game, and I'd bet a review of it by Donald Dennis would be a fun listen. ;)

Thread: Re: Now accepting donations

JoeyHemlock — 2008-07-31T00:56:13+00:00

And, pssssst! A link to the paypal donation page or at least the OBG webpage would make it easier. :)

Thread: Re: Now accepting donations

JoeyHemlock — 2008-07-31T00:39:56+00:00

Long overdue, that donation was. Keep up the good work.

Thread: Re: Games and culture

Awakening — 2008-07-30T22:36:29+00:00

Gads! I can't believe I wrote that! Of well, I guess I was thinking that they were a part of Europe, but like thinking of themselves as seperate - maybe if we suggest they adopt the euro...

Well, UK is a pretty huge market (despite the size of the country) and they are often on their own in statistics :)

caradoc wrote:
(I'll write back more relevant comments later - I have to run off to work now :( )

I'll read them when I wake up in the moring :) I can't believe I've just spent a couple of hours straight on the Geek. It's only because I know the geek of the week a little and joined in on a couple of discussions in that thread. I also happened to stumble into the game designers board while looking for the idea submissions board :D Oh yeah, I also found the Swedish board, didn't know one existed.

Thread: Re: Games and culture

caradoc — 2008-07-30T21:48:05+00:00

Awakening wrote:

I thought UK was part of Europe ;)

Gads! I can't believe I wrote that! Of well, I guess I was thinking that they were a part of Europe, but like thinking of themselves as seperate - maybe if we suggest they adopt the euro... :p

Cheers,

Giles.

(I'll write back more relevant comments later - I have to run off to work now :( )

Thread: Now accepting donations

Walsfeo — 2008-07-30T20:59:57+00:00

Hey guys, I've avoided asking for money to support the podcast until this point. But now I've hit circumstances that require I ask for your support. I'd appreciate any help you can give to help me cover the hosting costs for both the web site and the libsyn account. Don't break your bank or anything, but please give what you feel is reasonable.

Thanks for your support!

Edit to add the link because I'm apparently very distracted.
http://onboardgames.net/

Thread: Re: The On Board Games Board Game

Ayrk — 2008-07-30T19:47:19+00:00

Awakening wrote:
I got some staff card ideas:

Sorry Erik, I don't know what to call you :soblue:

Most people just call me "The Great" :cool: