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I hate to nitpick, but d1 would be a spot on the paper, or the Gömböc. The ball-bearing is rather a d∞...

Edit: I mean, the steel ball
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I hate to nitpick, but d1 would be a spot on the paper, or the Gömböc. The ball-bearing is rather a d∞...
As it only has one face, it always rolls the same face, so it is a d1, although it is also the limit of dN as N -> ∞

"And then I understood... that the infinitely large and the infinitely small are One. To God, there is no zero."
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Just to be annoying, a coin technically has 3 faces, since it could land on the edge.

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Just to be annoying, a coin technically has 3 faces, since it could land on the edge.


blush Coin = (2,001)d
like this okay?

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Well... the d6 also could stand on the corner, so it should be d(6+epsilon). Moreover, there are five large pips on Your d(-1), and a lot of smaller ones - I guess that's d∞ itself since it can show virtually anything on it's face!

EDIT: also, dπ, de, and the most important one - d/dt are missing in Your set.
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Gibbon27 wrote:
MurrayL wrote:
Just to be annoying, a coin technically has 3 faces, since it could land on the edge.


blush Coin = (2,001)d
like this okay?

(Translation to American notation): Coin = d2.001
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I wonder if anyone has ever made a D1000. It's probably roll like a D1..
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Well, you're all a bunch of nerds.
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johngorno wrote:
Midaga wrote:
I hate to nitpick, but d1 would be a spot on the paper, or the Gömböc. The ball-bearing is rather a d∞...
As it only has one face, it always rolls the same face, so it is a d1, although it is also the limit of dN as N -> ∞


Infinite sides, infinite corners, yet only one face. Something is fishy here.
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Ah, I get it, the d(-1) is a hole in the table. But since that hole has three dimensions, wouldn't it be a d(-3)
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This thread exists to remind us that Boardgame Nerds and Statistics/Math Nerds are not mutually exclusive groups.
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A 100 forintosra lettem figyelmes jó kép xD a d-1-et kipróbálnám xD
 
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Geli wrote:
A 100 forintosra lettem figyelmes jó kép xD a d-1-et kipróbálnám xD


Ok, I'll bite. Is that Hungarian or math speak or both?
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Midaga wrote:
I hate to nitpick, but d1 would be a spot on the paper, or the Gömböc. The ball-bearing is rather a d∞...

Edit: I mean, the steel ball


That thing is...

What?

It's kind of cool. I guess... I don't really understand it.
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Ok, I'll bite. Is that Hungarian or math speak or both?


It's definitely Hungarian. It's definitely math. My guess it's nothing to do with "speak".
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Fidoh wrote:
Well, you're all a bunch of nerds.


Yes, we R!
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I really laughed at d(-1) xD
 
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So if the d1 sphere rolls into the d(-1) hole, does it go back to a d0.

Or do we start migrating from dice and tending towards pachinko.

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Fidoh wrote:
Well, you're all a bunch of nerds.


Geeks actually. This site is not BoardGameNerd.com.

Also, I'm a huge fan of d-1. Cute idea.
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Geli wrote:
A 100 forintosra lettem figyelmes jó kép xD a d-1-et kipróbálnám xD
I agree with whatever him. whistle
 
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JediMasterJeff wrote:
Fidoh wrote:
Well, you're all a bunch of nerds.


Geeks actually. This site is not BoardGameNerd.com.

But it should be. Nerd is a much more accurate term.
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I was told there would be no math.
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That Forint could be made into a d4.
 
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Midaga wrote:
I hate to nitpick, but d1 would be a spot on the paper, or the Gömböc. The ball-bearing is rather a d∞...

Edit: I mean, the steel ball


Gömböc? - Heck when I was growing up we called these thing Weebels. Hardly anything to get all excited about.
 
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You need a d3! Crystal Caste has some... d5 might be more difficult.
 
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Drew wrote:
Midaga wrote:
I hate to nitpick, but d1 would be a spot on the paper, or the Gömböc. The ball-bearing is rather a d∞...

Edit: I mean, the steel ball


Gömböc? - Heck when I was growing up we called these thing Weebels. Hardly anything to get all excited about.


I've been trying to wrap my head around that Gomboc thing - from what I understand - the key is that it is not weighted. If you took the weights out of a Weeble, you would be able to rest it on its side.
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Drew wrote:
Gömböc? - Heck when I was growing up we called these thing Weebels. Hardly anything to get all excited about.


Come on. There's everything on the page I've linked with a brief mathematical analysis, but let me quote directly:

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he 'Gömböc' is the first known homogenous object with one stable and one unstable equilibrium point, thus two equilibria altogether on a horizontal surface. It can be proven that no object with less than two equilibria exists.
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If placed on a horizontal surface in an arbitrary position the Gömböc returns to the stable equilibrium point, similar to 'weeble' toys. While the weebles rely on a weight in the bottom, the Gömböc consists of homogenous material, thus the shape itself accounts for self-righting.


So anybody with half a brain could see the merits of the Gömböc, not to mention the numerous practical use. Like... um... weighing down paper. Or skinning mammoths. Or something.
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Reminds me of the time I was tied to a chair and forcefed Gömböcs.


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l10n0fjudah wrote:
 Reminds me of the time I was tied to a chair and forcefed Gömböcs.
I've never met anyone who can "keep them down."
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l10n0fjudah wrote:
Reminds me of the time I was tied to a chair and forcefed Gömböcs.


Yeah, creepy. However 'gombóc' is a traditional plum or cottage-cheese dumpling, you probably would like it. Or not, but then you could use it as a d(gazillion), so it's a win-win.

Oh, and while we're at it, 'gömböc' is also a traditional hungarian food, it's almost the same as the haggis.
We eat weird stuff.
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For d(-1) couldn't you have created a black hole or opened up the space/time continuum?
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For d(-1) couldn't you have created a black hole or opened up the space/time continuum?


It would be d(-∞)
 
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Emperor JD wrote:
For d(-1) couldn't you have created a black hole or opened up the space/time continuum?


It would be d(-∞)


Who is going to argue about the number of sides on your dice when it's just opened up a rift in space/time and swallowed the board, the table and a large part of your face?
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Who is going to argue about the number of sides on your dice when it's just opened up a rift in space/time and swallowed the board, the table and a large part of your face?


Oh my god, are you kidding? I used to play games with someone that would have done that. I don't play with that guy anymore.

Some people will argue rules and dice no matter what the hell is happening. Arguing about the game IS the game for these people.
 
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Oh my god, are you kidding? I used to play games with someone that would have done that. I don't play with that guy anymore.

Some people will argue rules and dice no matter what the hell is happening. Arguing about the game IS the game for these people.


That's why I'm doing it now when we're not playing
 
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