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Reply: Die Macher:: Rules:: Re: Question concerning membership in preliminary round

jphyman — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:37:19 +0000

There are four options for the second column. The third option is +1 media support in a state and +8 party membership. The fourth option is +12 party membership.

Thread: Die Macher:: Rules:: Question concerning membership in preliminary round

Weloi Avala — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:28:02 +0000

by Weloi Avala

Hello,

First time playing the game--probably a stupid question. Before playing the first round, when secretly choosing the free preliminary options, does the third choice for media (+1/+8/+12) grant +20 for party membership?

Thanks,
-M.

Reply: Die Macher:: Rules:: Re: Numbers of votes when coalitions involved.

reddyredrooster — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:37:28 +0000

by reddyredrooster

You are correct Patrick - as a single player, the maximum amount of votes you can get is 50.

As a coalition, your totals are added and scores above 50 are allowed. This is the major advantage of a coalition - that is, the ability to always beat a single player who has reached his max votes.

Reply: Die Macher:: Rules:: Re: Numbers of votes when coalitions involved.

Desiderata — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:21:38 +0000

by Desiderata

It's been a while since I've played, but I believe you are correct that votes over 50 are not counted unless you are in a Coalition.

Thread: Die Macher:: Rules:: Numbers of votes when coalitions involved.

Jighm — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:06:24 +0000

by Jighm

Player A has 58 votes. This is counted as only 50, though.
Players B and C are in a coalition and got a combined total of 56 votes. This total is allowed to go beyond 50.

Does player A's total still count as only 50 or is he allowed to use his 58 because of the coalition of the other two players. By game rules, it seems to be that the coalition wins and player A only has 50 points. In thought, player A should win because he REALLY scored 58 votes.

I'm sure that the answer is that B and C win. I just want to get opinions on that and verification.

Jighm

Reply: Die Macher:: Rules:: Re: We played a sample game. Question on popularity.

jphyman — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:36:55 +0000

by jphyman

Yes, the multiplier would be 0 if your coincidence sums to 0 and you are at 0 popularity. However, in this and worse cases (coincidence sums negative and/or popularity is negative), each two meeting markers would give you one vote.

Reply: Die Macher:: Rules:: Re: We played a sample game. Question on popularity.

Jighm — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:47:27 +0000

by Jighm

Thank you for that clarification. So, it's possible to end up with a multiplier of 0 if you have no coincidence value and you are on the '0' space?

Jighm

Reply: Die Macher:: Rules:: Re: We played a sample game. Question on popularity.

jphyman — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:09:35 +0000

by jphyman

When a card tells you to move +2, this means you move two spaces on the track in the positive direction. It only takes +1 to get from 0 to +2.

If you are on the 0 popularity, your issue matches sum constitute your multiplier. Votes = (popularity + issue matches sum) * meeting markers. Meeting markers are worth 0.5 votes at a minimum (you round down total votes).

Thread: Die Macher:: Rules:: We played a sample game. Question on popularity.

Jighm — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:26:54 +0000

by Jighm

On each popularity track, you start on '0' and go up or down the track to '+2', '+3', '-2', and '-3'. When a card tells you to move, say, +2, does this mean that you move two spaces on the track in the positive direction or does it take a +2 to get from '0' to '+2?' I'm confused on the lack of +/-1s on the track. If you are at the '0' at vote- conversion time with no coincidence effects, are your seats multiplied by 0? What makes sense to me is to treat the '0' spot as a X1.

Jighm

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Darkmot — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:19:29 +0000

by Darkmot

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Going to play Die Macher with anti-AP tools. The Sand Timer!

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Darkmot — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:57:42 +0000

by Darkmot

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So many components, that equaled by so many phases

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Darkmot — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:48:44 +0000

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This brain burning game is so exhausting!

Reply: Die Macher:: Rules:: Re: Need help before first game!

Ward — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:12:45 +0000

by Ward

TheCat wrote:
In regard to the exchange pool, the Valley Games version changed the rules significantly to limit the number of cards in the pool. Like Mike, I prefer to play with unlimited cards in the pool.

I've played it both ways and found the limited pool preferable. Besides the rats nest that develops, it avoids the problem of running out of opinion cards for the region boards and also can act as a catch-up mechanic. The winners of early regions often succeed by placing unmatched opinions in the exchange pool. If the pool is mostly unwanted by the leaders, it is less beneficial to them and opens the door for the trailers.

TheCat wrote:
Similarly, VG changed the rules for adding and replacing cards on the national board, using the shift-to-the-left method. I like this change and use it when I play.

This is in the WBC clarifications and I believe it was also in the FAQ issued for the 1997 edition. I can't imagine not using it.

Reply: Die Macher:: Rules:: Re: Need help before first game!

shadow9d9 — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:56:57 +0000

by shadow9d9

Great, thanks!

Reply: Die Macher:: Rules:: Re: Need help before first game!

TheCat — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 04:37:53 +0000

by TheCat

In regard to the exchange pool, the Valley Games version changed the rules significantly to limit the number of cards in the pool. Like Mike, I prefer to play with unlimited cards in the pool.

Similarly, VG changed the rules for adding and replacing cards on the national board, using the shift-to-the-left method. I like this change and use it when I play.

The remaining clarifications on the WBC page seem correct to me, without reading them in depth. Note that they are for the 1997 version and not the Valley Games edition, so there might be slight inconsistencies.

Reply: Die Macher:: Rules:: Re: Need help before first game!

TheCat — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 04:32:05 +0000

by TheCat

shadow9d9 wrote:
2. Let's say you decline your $50k contribution in the first round and you are the highest, does that mean you get to roll 6 dice and add it all up to add to your party membership?

Yes.

Reply: Die Macher:: Rules:: Re: Need help before first game!

shadow9d9 — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:58:27 +0000

by shadow9d9

Ok, thanks!

Just one question then unresolved...

2. Let's say you decline your $50k contribution in the first round and you are the highest, does that mean you get to roll 6 dice and add it all up to add to your party membership?

Reply: Die Macher:: Rules:: Re: Need help before first game!

Mike Mayer — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:41:24 +0000

by Mike Mayer

In regards to 5: the WBC says: "At the start of the game, six cards should be taken from the pile of Peoples Opinion cards and placed in the Exchange Pool. There is a maximum of one card allowed in the Exchange Pool for each position on each issue. Any card going to the Exchange Pool that matches a card already in the Exchange Pool is discarded (i.e. there can be up to 14 cards in the Exchange Pool, one for each of two positions on each of seven issues)."

But I prefer to play that all cards going to the Exchange Pool are allowed to stay there, and not limit them to number/type. I think it makes for a more dynamic game when there are more opportunities available in the Exchange.

Reply: Die Macher:: Rules:: Re: Need help before first game!

Ward — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:06:27 +0000

by Ward

1. Correct
2. Don't have the game in front of me, so I'm not sure.
3. Correct
4. Never played the VG version. IIRC, 2nd edition does not include free meeting markers in 5-7 and it seems fine to me.
5. Excellent choice - I've done the same since playing at WBC. Works well and I don't recall any issues with them.

Thread: Die Macher:: Rules:: Need help before first game!

shadow9d9 — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:22:46 +0000

by shadow9d9

1. In the media marker phase, if someone has 1 media marker and no one else is there, they are the plurality, correct?

2. Let's say you decline your $50k contribution in the first round and you are the highest, does that mean you get to roll 6 dice and add it all up to add to your party membership?

3. If a position is secured on the national board, just one opposite view replaces it correct?

4. The VG version says boards 5-7 get a free meeting marker.. what do you all think?

5. I have been using WBC's rules as a FAQ- http://www.boardgamers.org/yearbkex/dimpge.htm as suggested here. Does anyone disagree with any of their rulings?

Thanks!

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kin2x — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 03:30:45 +0000

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Thread: Die Macher:: General:: Sleeves

Papipo — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:55:48 +0000

by Papipo

Is there any size of sleeves in which the die macher valley games edition cards fit?

TY.

Reply: Die Macher:: General:: Re: Which edition should I buy?

PsyJam — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:37:09 +0000

by PsyJam

Desiderata wrote:
I have the VG edition. It's no where near as bad as the above posters make it seem. It's perfectly playable and all the issues it has a very minor.

I just played my first game yesterday. The game is perfectly playable alright, but the design / iconography / no text choices are poor. The image below shows some culprits. (two cranes?!)

Would have been nice to have names for the shadow cabinet cards. ("I'm playing the pinwheel")

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