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Reply: Nefertiti:: News:: Re: Nefertiti expansion

Osidarta — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:13:21 +0000

Osidarta wrote:
GeoMan wrote:
Will this expansion be available for sale later through on-line shops or it is an Essen exclusive?

Not an Essen exclusive, and normally 2 weeks after Essen in shops (middle of November) in Europe (so 5-6 weeks later - middle of December - for US?).

I just get the information that it will be postponed for at least a month, so I keep you informed as soon as I know more. Sorry for the delay!

Reply: Nefertiti:: Variants:: Re: 2 Player Variant

fofluff — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:20:53 +0000

by fofluff

Osidarta wrote:
fofluff wrote:
Thank you, Osidarta for posting the 2-player rules! Since I don't have the expansion yet, what do we need to play the 2-player version? Just another pawn (or 4?) for Tutor(s)? I haven't played the game yet as we usually only have 2 players (it sounded like such a great game, I still had to buy it for when we may have 3 players :)).

2 pawns per player (different in shape from the base game) of the same colors that you have chosen (I personnally played with my Caylus' cylinders which match the colors of Nefertiti).

Thanks so much!!

Reply: Nefertiti:: Variants:: Re: 2 Player Variant

Osidarta — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:16:25 +0000

by Osidarta

fofluff wrote:
Thank you, Osidarta for posting the 2-player rules! Since I don't have the expansion yet, what do we need to play the 2-player version? Just another pawn (or 4?) for Tutor(s)? I haven't played the game yet as we usually only have 2 players (it sounded like such a great game, I still had to buy it for when we may have 3 players :)).

2 pawns per player (different in shape from the base game) of the same colors that you have chosen (I personnally played with my Caylus' cylinders which match the colors of Nefertiti).

Reply: Nefertiti:: Variants:: Re: 2 Player Variant

fofluff — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:25:57 +0000

by fofluff

Thank you, Osidarta for posting the 2-player rules! Since I don't have the expansion yet, what do we need to play the 2-player version? Just another pawn (or 4?) for Tutor(s)? I haven't played the game yet as we usually only have 2 players (it sounded like such a great game, I still had to buy it for when we may have 3 players :)).

Reply: Nefertiti:: Variants:: Re: 2 Player Variant

Osidarta — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:40:52 +0000

by Osidarta

UnknownParkerBrother wrote:
I don't know the game well, but Peter's variant seems similar to the official rules then.

As I understood Peter's variant, it is quite different: you play 2 independant colors, alternatively, then count the score of your lower scoring pawn. In a way, you simulate a 4-players game (am I right Peter?).

Here you're playing one color, and just get the optionnal help of the tutors for closing, dispatching money or collecting gifts competiting the other player.

Reply: Nefertiti:: Variants:: Re: 2 Player Variant

Osidarta — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:32:57 +0000

by Osidarta

carlj wrote:
Just to be clear, if I place servants on two different markets with the High Priest, I cannot place a Tutor on *either* of those two markets? Your rule *could* be interpreted that I am only restricted in placing the tutor if I placed both servants in the same market.

Yes, if you place servants on 2 different markets, you can only place your tutor on a third (different) one (but you can also skip placing a tutor). Tutors are a way to accelerate or slow the rythm of closing markets, depending if you are poor or rich at this moment.

Reply: Nefertiti:: Variants:: Re: 2 Player Variant

UnknownParkerBrother — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:29:03 +0000

by UnknownParkerBrother

I don't know the game well, but Peter's variant seems similar to the official rules then.

Reply: Nefertiti:: Variants:: Re: 2 Player Variant

carlj — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:23:35 +0000

by carlj

Osidarta wrote:

- The player cannot place a Tutor on the market where he has just placed his Servant (or both his Servants when using the High Priest).

Very nice idea. I will have to try that.

Just to be clear, if I place servants on two different markets with the High Priest, I cannot place a Tutor on *either* of those two markets? Your rule *could* be interpreted that I am only restricted in placing the tutor if I placed both servants in the same market.

Reply: Nefertiti:: Rules:: Re: Closing Louqsor

carlj — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:11:09 +0000

by carlj

Wyckyd wrote:
wow, i've been totally playing this wrong!

We only roll after placing a new servant, not at the end of every turn

Yes, you roll for Louqsor at the end of your turn, even if you placed your servant in a different market during the turn.

Reply: Nefertiti:: Variants:: Re: 2 Player Variant

Osidarta — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:41:35 +0000

by Osidarta

UnknownParkerBrother wrote:
It'll be interesting to see just what the official 2 player rules in the expansion are like.

2 players rules:

Despite having a different color, the 4 Tutors (split between the 2 players) represent a "neutral" player. This player has no money, but will eventually collect gifts or split Deben between the various markets.

Setup

Setup remains the same as a 4-player game except for the following:
- Remove the Scribe +3 character card and a Scribe +2 card.
- Each player takes 4 Servants of his color (Red or Black) plus 2 Tutors of the same color.
- The 8 Senet cards are left in the box.
- The first player takes 10 Deben, the second 11 Deben.

The Course of the Game

After having placed his Servant (and after the possible closing of a market due to that placement), a player can also place one of his Tutors:

- The player cannot place a Tutor on the market where he has just placed his Servant (or both his Servants when using the High Priest).

- A Tutor can never make the best offer for the market where he has been placed (if there are no Servants on a market no Tutors can be in that market).

When a market closes (or when foreign gifts are attributed in Memphis), when a player must remove one of his Tutors, he can:

- Either take 3 Deben from the reserve of that market (4 Deben if you are playing with the Port of Memphis), to distribute exactly 1 of these Deben on each of the other reserves; if there is not enough money available, he places each of the remaining Deben on reserves of his choice.

- Or take one of the gifts present in the market and place it next to the game board (if there is a seal on the gift, the seal is simply discarded). The gifts thus collected by the Tutors (of both players) are scored as though they were owned by a third player.

It is possible to make that neutral player discard gifts (with the Royal Servant) or exchange gifts with him (any Deben given to him are simply removed from the game).

The Tutor is then picked up by the player who placed him and may be played at a later time.

Additionnal notes:

A Tutor counts as a Servant with regard to the rules for closing the markets. For the right-side market at Gizeh (close when at 3 colors or 4 Servants / Tutors), the "3 colors" become closed when:
- 2 Servants of different colors and a Tutor,
- OR 2 Tutors of different colors and a Servant.

If a player no longer has any free Servants, whether or not he has Tutors, he can, as per normal Nefertiti rules choose a market on which he has at least one Servant present: that market is immediately closed.

You can also play the new port of Memphis at 2 players, but this is optionnal.

Reply: Nefertiti:: Variants:: Re: 2 Player Variant

UnknownParkerBrother — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:42:59 +0000

by UnknownParkerBrother

It'll be interesting to see just what the official 2 player rules in the expansion are like.

Reply: Nefertiti:: News:: Re: Nefertiti expansion

Osidarta — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 06:33:38 +0000

by Osidarta

GeoMan wrote:
Will this expansion be available for sale later through on-line shops or it is an Essen exclusive?

Not an Essen exclusive, and normally 2 weeks after Essen in shops (middle of November) in Europe (so 5-6 weeks later - middle of December - for US?).

Reply: Nefertiti:: News:: Re: Nefertiti expansion

GeoMan — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:14:28 +0000

by GeoMan

Osidarta wrote:
Since I've just got confirmation from my publisher, a small expansion for Nefertiti will be available at Essen fair including:
- 7 new characters (you place the scribes / merchants + 6 additionnal characters at random, or according to a suggested configuration)
- a new place (the port of Memphis) where you can collect gifts coming from foreign countries: these gifts will increase the value of collections; Memphis can be played from 2 to 4 players optionnally, and 5 players mandatory.
- rules for 2 players (with a new type of pawn, the Tutor) and 5 players (with additionnal debens and seals, and a new type of gift with fixed value).

Hope people enjoying the base game will enjoy this expansion as well!

Will this expansion be available for sale later through on-line shops or it is an Essen exclusive?

Reply: Nefertiti:: News:: Re: Nefertiti expansion

ackmondual — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:01:39 +0000

by ackmondual

[grumble]. Well, I'll be sure to pile this on top of the other expansions I'm considering getting.

A 2p variant sounds neat, even if it turns out to be not that practical for my case.

Thread: Nefertiti:: News:: Nefertiti expansion

Osidarta — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:48:16 +0000

by Osidarta

Since I've just got confirmation from my publisher, a small expansion for Nefertiti will be available at Essen fair including:
- 7 new characters (you place the scribes / merchants + 6 additionnal characters at random, or according to a suggested configuration)
- a new place (the port of Memphis) where you can collect gifts coming from foreign countries: these gifts will increase the value of collections; Memphis can be played from 2 to 4 players optionnally, and 5 players mandatory.
- rules for 2 players (with a new type of pawn, the Tutor) and 5 players (with additionnal debens and seals, and a new type of gift with fixed value).

Hope people enjoying the base game will enjoy this expansion as well!