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Andrea Angiolino
Italy Rome European Union
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These are the plane cards in the booster (last three are promotional ones).
Fokker D.VII Oberleutnant Ernst Udet Jasta 4 Luftstreitskräfte Fokker D.VII Leutnant Hugo Schäfer Jasta 15 Luftstreitskräfte Fokker D.VII Offizierstellvertreter Willi Hippert Jasta 74 Luftstreitskräfte Fokker D.VII Oberleutnant Hermann Göring Jagdgeschwader 1 Luftstreitskräfte Fokker D.VII Leutnant zur See Gotthard Sachsenberg Marine Jagdgruppe Flandern Marine Fliegertruppe Fokker D.VII - - Lithuanian Karo Aviacijos Fokker D.VII Kapitan Stefan Bastyr III Grupa Lotnicza Wojska Lotnicze (Polish) Fokker D.VII - 8 Vörös Repülocsapat Vörös Légjárócsapat (Hungarian) Fokker D.VII - 8 Vörös Repülocsapat Vörös Légjárócsapat (Hungarian) Fokker D.VII - - Ceskoslovenske Letectvo Fokker D.VII - 2 Istrebitel'nyi Aviaotryad Voenno-Vozdushnye Sily Raboche-Krest'yanskoi Krasnoi Armii (Soviet) Fokker D.VII - Getmanat and Directroija Povitrovvi Fl'ot (Ukrainian) Sopwith Snipe Major William George Barker 201 Squadron Royal Air Force Sopwith Snipe Lieutenant E. Mulcair 43 Squadron Royal Air Force Sopwith Snipe Captain Thomas Charles Richmond Baker 4 Squadro Australian Flying Corps Sopwith Snipe Lieutenant Clement Verner Ryrie 4 Squadron Australian Flying Corps Sopwith Snipe Kapitan Grigoriy Stepanovich Sapozhnikov 1 Istrebitel'nyi Aviaotryad Voenno-Vozdushnye Sily Raboche-Krest'yanskoi Krasnoi Armii (Soviet) Sopwith Snipe - 2 Istrebitel'nyi Aviaotryad Voenno-Vozdushnye Sily Raboche-Krest'yanskoi Krasnoi Armii (Soviet) Sopwith Snipe Major Alexander Kazakov Slavo-British Air Detachment British Joint Military forces
Sopwith Camel - - Voenno-Vozdushnye Sily Raboche-Krest'yanskoi Krasnoi Armii Breguet BR.14 A2 Kapitan Jerzy Kossowski & Sous Lieutenant Julien Grand 39 Eskadra Breguetòw Wojska Lotnicze (Polish) Nieuport 23 N. A. Jakovitsky 1-yi Morskoi Istrebitel'nyi Otryad - Severnyi Gidroaviadivizion Voenno-Vozdushnye Sily Raboche-Krest'yanskogo Krasnogo Flota (Soviet Navy)
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United States Boston Massachusetts
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How will the promotional cards be made available?
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Rob Daumeyer
United States Loveland Ohio
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... and when are these bad mother-scratchers going to be available in the US?
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Andrea Angiolino
Italy Rome European Union
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Aldaron wrote: How will the promotional cards be made available?
Buy the booster (it is available in the US since last year). All the promo cards are inside to promote other sets (they are not somewere else to promote this booster).
A note on who is against who. Up to November 1918, WWI lasting, in all our sets and boosters the Central Empires (Germany, Austria, Turkey) are black in the back of the cards and the Allies are Olive Green. So the D.VII in Top Fighters with black back are German and belong to Central Empires, the Green-backed Snipes are British or Australian and are Allied.
After that... well, it's a bit of a mess. There are no more Central Empires vs. Allies. Everybody went on his own, so we used different backs for the plane card. British (pale grey) pretended to be a training unit but actually fought for the Czar in Russia against the Revolutionary army (dark brown with red star) that were allied with the pro-soviet Hungarian governement (dark brown with green-white- red V-shaped stripe). Polish (Orange) almost invaded the Czech (Blue with white-blue-red circular cockade) but in the end both fighted against Soviets. Lithuania (blue with red shield and white double cross) was against soviets, the short-lived Ukrainian republic which D.VII we depicted (yellow) was somehow allied with Soviets (or anyway invaded by their enemies).
Promo cards are a Soviet Army Camel, a Soviet Navy Nieuport and a Polish Breguet 14 (from a French unit that pretenmded to train Polish but actually fought with them, and along the process was sold to Poland and become part of Wojska Lotnicze = Polish Aviation).
Great infos on Russian Civil War and whereabouts in the skies: http://worldatwar.net/chandelle/v2/v2n1/redfighter.html http://worldatwar.net/chandelle/v2/v2n3/whitfalc.html http://worldatwar.net/chandelle/v2/v2n2/whitpole.html
This is a good site for Air Forces histories and names: http://www.worldairforces.com/index.html
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Kevin Duke
United States Wynne Arkansas
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Speaking of the promo planes in the boosters...
I notice that the Recon Patrol booster includes a promo card for WyB-- a Nieuport 21.
But the Nieuport in WyB is the N11.
So the Nieuport 21 is "slower" than the N17?
I can see using the same maneuver deck for the various iterations of Nieuport from 17 up til 27, but I'm surprised to see a N 21 that is supposed to be flown using an N11 deck.
Likewise, in Top Fighters, the WyB promo is a Breguet-- a plane that we get in Recon Patrol using the K deck. But this Breuget is shown using the H deck-- much faster.
I recognize this card says "A2" while the other cards say "B2," so are you saying the A model Breguets are faster than the B?
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Andrea Angiolino
Italy Rome European Union
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Well yes, exactly that. To add more variety to the airplane range in the game, we put a few planes that use the same maneuvre deck of the ones in the box, but that bring some more variety to the game. So we added a Niueuport 21, which speed is comparable to the 11 even if it was larger and sturdier (usually it was a training plane, but it also saw service on tghe front - all or planes did apart from the blue SPAD XIII in the first promo card), and we put a Breguet XIV A2 (recon version) that's quicker than the B2 (bombing version).
Speed classes go in steps, and real data are approximate (speed depended on a whide range of factors, among which the ailtutude at which it was measured), so a perfect comparison is impossible. Data on different books and sources differs quite a lot. But we hope we did a decent work and that our choices are quite accettable in games terms.
Thanks a lot for asking!
Andrea
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