Scott Alden
United States
Dallas
Texas
Aldie's Full of Love!
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Kevin H
China
Xiangtan
Hunan
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I've always liked dice
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Joe J.
United States
Colorado Springs
Colorado
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Now this one makes me laugh.
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Leo Zappa
United States
Aliquippa
Pennsylvania
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This is my favorite so far! Of course, I am a wargamer!
(no doubt we're next for skewering!) 
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Matthew Vantries
United States
Woodbury
Minnesota
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Now that's one that everyone can enjoy.
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Mark McEvoy
Canada
Ottawa-ish
Ontario
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Eh. To me, this one badly misses its target. You want to skewer a gamer-archetype who fears and shies away from randomness, go back at the Abstract Gamer. To me, the *definitive* Eurogame is Settlers of Catan - a dice game. Just about every other Eurogame is full of randomness as well - mostly card-draw or tile-draw based.
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Isley
United States
Lawrence
Kansas
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True, but how many eurogamers have proudly talked about how little luck there is in Puerto Rico and other similar games?
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Jim Cote
United States
Maine
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thatmarkguy wrote: Eh. To me, this one badly misses its target. You want to skewer a gamer-archetype who fears and shies away from randomness, go back at the Abstract Gamer. To me, the *definitive* Eurogame is Settlers of Catan - a dice game. Just about every other Eurogame is full of randomness as well - mostly card-draw or tile-draw based.
Shhh. It's a secret. We pretend not to like dice to distance ourselves from wargamers. 
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E.R. Burgess
United States
Glendora
California
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thatmarkguy wrote: Eh. To me, this one badly misses its target. You want to skewer a gamer-archetype who fears and shies away from randomness, go back at the Abstract Gamer. To me, the *definitive* Eurogame is Settlers of Catan - a dice game. Just about every other Eurogame is full of randomness as well - mostly card-draw or tile-draw based.
Quite the reverse, this is dead-on. While you might think Settlers is the definitive Eurogame, that isn't a very popular opinion with "the Gamerati" these days. Most eurogamers tend to shun games with random elements these days and dice are especially disliked. Most snobbier eurogamers absolutely turn up their noses at the few euro offerings in recent years that dare to use dice (like That's Life! or Rum and Pirates), dismissing them as fluffy.
I make all these comments knowing full well that I am one of this bunch. I'm a dyed-in-wool eurogamer and I haven't played Settlers in about eight years - and, yes, I shun dice but it's only because they don't like me... 
...Sheylon
www.boardgamebabylon.com
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Jonah Johnson
United States
Canyon Country
California
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i feel better now.........it means i am only partly a eurosnob. or it just means i can laugh at myself. hmmmmmmmm....well, it was funny and i did laugh and that is what is important.
stay well,
jj
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paidoniai ludendae est
United States
Howard County
Maryland
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Excellent
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Matthew Vantries
United States
Woodbury
Minnesota
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Quote: I don't get it. Who is this Eurogamer? And how can he play monopoly without dice?
Can we please make these cartoons less exclusive!!!
ROFL!!!
Oh man, that's better than the comic itself.
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Huzonfirst
United States
Manassas
Virginia
For the second time in five years, the G-Men are Super Bowl champs! Woo hoo!!!!!
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Quote: Most snobbier eurogamers absolutely turn up their noses at the few euro offerings in recent years that dare to use dice (like That's Life! or Rum and Pirates), dismissing them as fluffy.
Um, but they are fluffy! By no means does that mean they're bad, but neither game could be described as heavy.
Roma is probably a better example of a game that uses dice but still has a good deal of meat. And I can't think of too many gamers (snobbish or not) who complained about the dice-rolling in that game.
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Stephen Glenn
United States
Virginia Beach
Virginia
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thatmarkguy wrote: Eh. To me, this one badly misses its target. You want to skewer a gamer-archetype who fears and shies away from randomness, go back at the Abstract Gamer. To me, the *definitive* Eurogame is Settlers of Catan - a dice game. Just about every other Eurogame is full of randomness as well - mostly card-draw or tile-draw based.
Yea, I agree 110%. Eurogames are chock full of randomness. I'm afraid I don't get this one at all.
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Steen
Denmark
Ballerup
Unspecified
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Oh dear...
{rant on}
Why can't people just do like with the cartoons in the newspaper. If its funny and cracks you up, laugh out loud. If its semifunny, chuckle. If you don't get it, raise an eyebrow and move on.
The man is trying to make a cartoon, and just face it. There is NO way he can rub everyone the right way. Its just a cartoon, and no matter which way you turn it, the cartoon reflects the artist's image of the world, and if he sees eurogamers like this, then thats how he sees it. Not funny? Too bad.
{rant off}
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Purple huh... I can tell this is a good game!
Netherlands
Eindhoven
Noord Brabant
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thatmarkguy wrote: Eh. To me, this one badly misses its target. You want to skewer a gamer-archetype who fears and shies away from randomness, go back at the Abstract Gamer. To me, the *definitive* Eurogame is Settlers of Catan - a dice game. Just about every other Eurogame is full of randomness as well - mostly card-draw or tile-draw based.
Didn't know in America Eurogames published Catan. In The Netherlands it's 999 Games.
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Joseph Bradshaw
United States
Milwaukie
Oregon
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Oh come on. This is funny. A pretty girl like that would NEVER befriend a game-er.
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Luís Evangelista
Portugal
Santa Iria Azoia
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Hilarious
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Nathan Baumbach
United States
Omaha
Nebraska
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Stephen Glenn wrote: thatmarkguy wrote: Eh. To me, this one badly misses its target. You want to skewer a gamer-archetype who fears and shies away from randomness, go back at the Abstract Gamer. To me, the *definitive* Eurogame is Settlers of Catan - a dice game. Just about every other Eurogame is full of randomness as well - mostly card-draw or tile-draw based.
Yea, I agree 110%. Eurogames are chock full of randomness. I'm afraid I don't get this one at all.
Yes, I agree that Eurogames are just as random.
However, the cartoonist is pointing out a trend on the BGG, and that's a lot of self-proclaimed Eurogamers like to bash on the randomness of die rolling in other games.
It's those guys I see up on chairs.
Made me laugh - I understand the stereotype and the reason for it.
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Les Haskell
United States
Tennessee
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Me? I have a nice big Crown Royal bag full of dice in ASL colors. Sometimes I'll take out a big handful and roll them just to . . . roll them.
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Marc Mistiaen
Spain
Torrelavega
Cantabria
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First, I went to the thread to post a comment along the lines of "Now here's one no one can claim he doesn't get it". Now, I changed my mind to a commentary of the sort "I'm not sure what's more fun: the original cartoon, or those who take seriously the irony in some of the answers".
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Now this one becomes even more weird if we assume that the man is Arthur Dent, and the girl is his daughter...
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Mark Harding
United Kingdom
Unspecified
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Funny!
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Matthew Watson
United Kingdom
Edinburgh
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Hehe it is quite funny.
(Although I play eurogames, I *love* dice - I have hundreds of them, all sizes. What can I say - I play RPGs...)
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Mik Svellov
Denmark
Copenhagen N
EU
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Stony wrote: Oh dear...
{rant on}
Why can't people just do like with the cartoons in the newspaper. If its funny and cracks you up, laugh out loud. If its semifunny, chuckle. If you don't get it, raise an eyebrow and move on.
The man is trying to make a cartoon, and just face it. There is NO way he can rub everyone the right way. Its just a cartoon, and no matter which way you turn it, the cartoon reflects the artist's image of the world, and if he sees eurogamers like this, then thats how he sees it. Not funny? Too bad.
{rant off}
Relax, Steen.
People are just making fun because they have nothing better to do.
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