geek
The Hotness
Games|People|Company
Dominion - Stash Promo Card
Runewars
Dominion: Alchemy
Thunderstone
Dominion
Dungeon Lords
Alexander the Great
Agricola
Twilight Struggle
Murder at the Four Deuces
Stronghold
The Republic of Rome
Race for the Galaxy
Small World
Arkham Horror
Founding Fathers
Race for the Galaxy: The Brink of War
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Vapor's Gambit
Battlestar Galactica
Chaos in the Old World
Le Havre
Last Night on Earth: The Zombie Game
Mystery Express
Puerto Rico
Endeavor
Power Grid
Vasco da Gama
Warhammer: Invasion
Descent: Journeys in the Dark
Space Hulk (3rd Edition)
Pandemic
Hansa Teutonica
Carson City
Campaign Manager 2008
War of the Ring
Livingstone
Cosmic Encounter
Stone Age
Le Havre: Le Grand Hameau
Tobago
Cosmic Encounter: Cosmic Incursion Expansion
Twilight Imperium 3rd Edition
Summoner Wars
War of the Ring Collector's Edition
Macao
Carcassonne
Dominion: Prosperity
Neuland
Steam
Rules | Subscriptions | Bookmarks | Search | Account | Moderators
Recommend
7
542 Posts
1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5  Next »  [22] | 
New Thread | Printer Friendly | Subscribe  sub options | Bookmark
Your Tags: Add tags
Popular Tags: 18GA [+] Learning_Game [+] PBEM [+] [View All]
Ed Holzman
United States
Seffner
Florida
flag msg tools
Avatar
050607080910
mbmbmbmbmb
Greetings to all participants and observers! This is the forum thread where I will be conducting the second teaching/learning game of 18GA. If you are interested in reading the thread of the first 18GA game, it can be found at:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/157420

here on The Geek.

First, a simple summary of how we will play and what is expected of everybody.

1. Players will have a minimum of 24 hours to submit a move on their turn. This allows the game to accommodate players in differing time zones. I will probably send you a gentle nudge via Geekmail at 24 hours and make your move for you after 48 hours have elapsed. Let's try and keep this moving along at a steady pace.

2. Given advanced notice, I have no problem with giving players a "time out" period for vacations, business travel, and other offline activities. Let's try and keep the time outs limited to no more than 30 total days per player over the life span of the game. If you feel comfortable with giving "conditional" orders or allowing me to take your turn for you, then that can be arranged as well.

3. I will be providing periodic game summary posts (usually after each player's turn). I will use red text to highlight these posts so that they stand out in the thread. When you submit your orders for your turn, you should bold your text so that they stand out as well. Off-topic chatter and advice from observers is fine, but please try and head your off-topic posts with a banner of some sort such as "OFF-TOPIC" in the first line or use light gray text. This allows readers to more easily follow the game and ignore the friendly table talk (if they wish to).

4. When rules questions come up, I will use green text to highlight that a rules explanation is being made. I will do my best to quote the rules by rule number (where applicable).

5. Let's have fun! Everyone here is learning the game and you WILL make a move that will cause veterans to shake their heads in wonder and cause you to look back later and feel sheepish. We all have those D'OH! moments and they are expected when you are still learning. Do not feel embarrassed when you make a mistake. We all learn together when we learn from our mistakes (or the mistakes of others).

I would request that any veteran 18XX commentators please keep in mind that the players are totally new to this experience and may not fully realize the Law of Unintended Consequences when making a move.

***********************************************************************

The list of players that have responded wishing to play an introductory game of 18GA consists of:

James (iceberg1)
Costas (rockusultimus)
Mike (mikehibbert)
Virre (virre)

These names are listed in player order (randomly determined by myself). The first thing everyone should do is visit John David Galt's website located at:

http://www.diogenes.sacramento.ca.us/18AL_18GA.html

and grab the latest PDF version of the 18GA rules, map, and other sundry items. If you enjoy playing 18GA, I would highly encourage all of you to consider purchasing a copy of the game from Mr. Galt. He does excellent work and it will be well worth the money you spend. He may or may not be out of copies of 18GA (since he has ceased production to begin work on 18Dixie, the combined version of 18AL and 18GA). The print-and-play option for 18GA has been made a viable alternative because of this.

Take a couple of days to go over the rulebook and let me know if you have any questions that the rules do not seem clear about. I will be making explanations about what is happening and why they are happening as we go along, but reading the rulebook provides a good foundation for learning.

If you have (or are interested in learning about) Cyberboard and are comfortable with using it, then I would also recommend that you visit the Cyberboard website at:

http://cyberboard.brainiac.com/download.html

and download the latest version of Cyberboard. This will help you better visualize the game (in addition to the screenshots that I will post of the game in progress). I will need everyone (participants AND observers) that wishes to use Cyberboard to track the gameplay to provide me with an email address capable of receiving attached files so that I can send you the Cyberboard gamebox and scenario files plus move files during the game (if you wish to learn Cyberboard while we play). Using Cyberboard is completely optional and you can simply follow along with the posted screenshots and play just fine.

SETTING YOUR GOALS

The goal of any 18XX game is to be the player with the highest personal net worth when the game comes to an end. In most 18XX games, the end of the game is triggered when one of two events occurs: either the Bank runs out of funds or a player goes bankrupt. These are the endgame conditions for MOST 18XX games; however, 18GA has an additional endgame condition. In 18GA, the game also ends when the market value of a single share of stock in any publicly-held Corporation reaches $300. If a player goes bankrupt, the game ends immediately and players reckon their personal net worth. If the Bank runs dry or a Corporation reaches a market value of $300 per share, then the current Operating Round (which is a game turn in which Private Companies and Corporations operate - you will understand this more thoroughly later) will be completed before the players reckon their personal net worth (unless a player manages to go bankrupt during this playing out the Operating Round procedure, in which case the game ends immediately - an extremely rare occurrence seeing as I have never encountered it in hundreds of 18XX game sessions over the past 20 years). This difference in end game conditions is important to remember.

Personal net worth is a combination of three things: the amount of cash you have, the sum total value of all of the stock shares that you own in publicly-held Corporations, and the face value of any Private Companies that you own. The assets owned by publicly-held Corporations play no role in determining victory. The path to winning seems clear, have lots of cash and own numerous shares of high-valued stock when the end of the game occurs. Of course, getting there is another challenge. I should note that the value of Private Companies rarely comes into play when determining final net worth. Usually, they have either been purchased as assets (a takeover) by publicly-held Corporations or have been rendered obsolete by the passing of time before an endgame condition is triggered (with the very rare exception of an early bankruptcy). All Private Companies fold at some point during an 18XX game - in 18GA (and numerous other 18XX games), it is when the first 5 train is purchased.

The Bank in 18GA starts with exactly $8000 in it. From this, each player is given seed money to start the game. This varies based upon the number of players in the game and each player starts with $450 in a four player game, leaving $6200 in the Bank. You will use your seed money to purchase Private Companies and shares of stock in publicly-held Corporations during game turns known as Stock Rounds.

THE FIRST STOCK ROUND

The game starts with a Stock Round and, initially, the only items available for purchase are Private Companies (nothing may be sold back to the bank or to other players during the first stock round). Your purchasing decisions during this phase of the game will have far-reaching consequences. Generally, holding onto excess cash is not a very efficient way to increase your net worth. Money invested in stocks and Private Companies has this magical quality called ROI (return on investment). Every dollar invested in stocks and Private Companies has a chance to earn you dividends (fixed dividends in the case of Private Companies and variable dividends in the case of shares of stock in publicly-held Corporations). If you hold onto $100 it will be worth $100 at the end of the game; however, if you use that money to purchase a $100 stock certificate in a company that pays regular dividends, then it will probably generate closer to $300-$400 in income at the end of the game. Determining which Private Companies and public stock shares offer you the best ROI is the most important skill that you will develop as you gain experience with any 18XX game. And it is a rare occasion when two people agree on exactly what purchasing strategy is the best approach.

PURCHASING PRIVATE COMPANIES

When considering which Private Companies to purchase or place a bid on, you must take several factors into account.

1. The simplest and (usually) least decisive factor is the P/E (Price-to-Earnings) Ratio. This is simply a value that is determined by dividing the purchase price by the fixed dividend amount that the Private Company pays each Operating Round. The lower the P/E Ratio, the better return you get on your investment. For example, at face value the Lexington Terminal RR has a P/E Ratio of 4 ($20 purchase price divided by $5 dividend value). This means that you must invest $4 in order to earn $1 and it will take you four Operating Rounds to recoup your initial investment. In comparison, at face value the Macon & Birmingham RR has a P/E Ratio of 6 ($150 purchase price divided by $25 dividend value). This means that you must invest $6 in order to earn $1 and it will take you six Operating Rounds to recoup your initial investment. The P/E Ratio is a short term look at the potential ROI of Private Companies. On the basis of pure P/E Ratio, the Lexington Terminal RR is a much better value. However, this leads directly to the second factor...

2. Most of the Private Companies have a special power that may be triggered when they are purchased as an asset by a publicly-held Corporation. The nature of these special powers make these Companies attractive targets for takeovers depending upon the power and the Corporation involved. Since Corporations in 18GA will pay up to 1.5 times the face value to purchase Private Companies from the players, this makes higher priced Companies more attractive. Using the companies mentioned above, you could sell the Lexington Terminal RR (which has no special power and is not an attractive takeover target) to a Corporation for up to $30 and you could sell the Ocilla Southern RR (which also has a very attractive special power) for up to $150. A Private Company with an attractive special power and higher face value can be a great purchase. The general attractiveness of Private Companies for purposes of takeover is a more long-term look at potential ROI. The income generated from such a sale can also help you in floating your first or second Presidency at a higher IPO value (since you will likely have started the game as a minority stock holder in Corporations, having spent your money on Private Companies).

3. The special powers and physical map location of the Private Companies are more attractive to some Corporations and less attractive to others. For instance, the Waycross & Southern RR Private Company confers the ability to place a free Station in the city of Waycross. Because of the limitations of where this power can be activated on the map, the Waycross & Southern RR is more attractive to Corporations with stations located near the Waycross area on the map (such as the Atlantic Coast Line and the Georgia & Florida RR) and less attractive to Corporations located far away from the Waycross area (such as the Western & Atlantic RR and the Georgia RR). Taking this into consideration, you might want to purchase the Waycross & Southern RR if you are planning on running the ACL or G&F Corporation and you would probably not want to purchase it if you were planning on running the W&A or GA RR Corporations. This factor is really more applicable to the potential ROI of the Corporation that you intend to preside over rather than that of the Private Company. It is a way to use your Private Company purchase to boost your future Corporation's profitability. Also, most of these Private Companies (with the exception of the Lexington Terminal RR) occupy physical space on the map. No Corporation can lay track in the hex occupied by a Private Company until that Private Company is either purchased by a Corporation or closes. Note that the Waycross & Southern doe NOT block building in the city of Waycross.

4. How much cash do you wish to set aside for purchasing stock in publicly-held Corporations? The minimum amount of cash you will need to float a Corporation (without assistance from other players) in 18GA is $330 (60% of stock purchased at an IPO value of $55 per share). Since you start with only $450 in a 4 player game, this only leaves you with $120 to purchase Private Companies. The Macon & Birmingham RR Private Company also comes with a free 10% stock certificate in the Central of Georgia RR Corporation, so the CoG actually may be floated by a player with only $275 (50% of stock purchased at an IPO value of $55). Normally, you would never expect anyone to assist you in floating a Corporation; although with 4 players in the game it is possible that an attractive Corporation will have minority investors (since the other players may not have enough cash to float their own Corporation and will be reluctant to just sit on their cash reserves).

5. Placing a bid on a Private Company ties up some of your cash until the auction of that Company is resolved (the cash is set aside as if you had already made the purchase - you will get the cash back if you do not win the auction for the Company). It only takes one bid to get invited to the auction party. Do not waste money upping a bid until the auction of that Company commences. Be wary of purchasing the lowest valued available Company unless you are satisfied with all of your bids on higher valued Companies (this is sometimes referred to as pulling the pin as it frequently sets off an explosion of auctions).

6. Determine your pain level before you bid on a Private Company. Just how much over face value are you willing to pay for a Private Company? When does the ROI diminish beyond attractiveness? This is something that time and experience will help you learn. As a general rule, if you are approaching the maximum Corporate takeover price (1.5 times face value), then it may be time to bow out of the auction.

CORPORATE STOCK PURCHASES

After the dust has settled from the Private Company sales, the IPO (Initial Public Offering) shares of the Corporations are available for purchase. Just like purchasing Private Companies, there are several factors to consider when purchasing Corporation stock shares. Some of these points remain valid throughout the game.

1. Check the other player's cash reserves (and your own) and determine if you are more likely to start off as a President or as a minority share holder. Private Company purchases will consume between $380 and $500 of the $1800 in seed capital that the players start the game with. With only around $1350 available for use in stock purchases, it is not likely that all four players will end up as Corporate Presidents during the first Stock Round. Remember, if you are going to be a minority share holder, you do not control the operation of the Corporation. You will end up being a coat tailer riding a stock and trying to earn enough money to float your own corporation in a later Stock Round. Remember that there are only six Corporations in the game, so the chance of your being President of more than one Corporation (in a 5 player game) is pretty slim. As President, be aware that coat tailers will be selling off stock in your Corporation later to fund their own bids for Presidency in another Corporation. This will normally have a minor impact on the Market Value of your stock holdings. However, sometimes "group think" and the "apparent leader factor" will cause the other players to plow the value of an early opening Corporation down to the bottom of the stock market.

2. Consider the potential P/E Ratio of the Corporations. Some Corporations start the game in a more advantageous position and are better able to capitalize on the landscape near their home station. If the IPO cost per share of W&A is low ($55 or $70 per share), then it is a sound investment (P/E-wise) as it is not unreasonable to expect that it will be able to return higher dividends early in the game. If the IPO of G&F is high ($90 or $110 per share), then it is a weak investment (P/E-wise) as it will likely return lower dividends early in the game.

3. Unlike many other 18XX games, the small towns (whistle stops) in 18GA do not count against the travel distance of a train. This makes Corporations with numerous nearby towns a bit more attractive.

4. Consider your holding limits. Every 18XX game limits the number of stock certificates and Private Companies that a player may own. In a 4 player game of 18GA, your limit is 12 certificates. This makes that 20% President's stock certificate that much more attractive.

5. Beware of owning more than 10% of a Corporation that is in danger of being forced to make a costly enforced purchase. You may end up holding the President's certificate and having to pay for a train out of your own funds. Holding 20% or more is not as dangerous if: the current President does not have a second Corporation that can be used to raid, OR the President sits to your immediate left and does not hold the Priority Deal, OR the President has more than one Corporation under his control AND permanent trains are in play AND the Corporation you hold stock in is his lowest-valued Corporation (it cannot be raided since it operates later in the Operating Round).

6. When setting the Par Value or IPO price (or when purchasing stock in other player's Corporations), be aware of how closely your cash in hand matches a multiple of the chosen price. With $110 in your hand, perhaps buying two shares at $55 is a better deal than buying one share at $90 and having $20 languish until the next Stock Round. Money invested in stock shares usually appreciates; money in hand is stagnant. Of course, if a Corporation is facing a cash shortage and is likely to NOT appreciate, then perhaps it is not a good idea to invest in it until the current cash crisis is passed (cash in hand also cannot ever depreciate, unlike an investment in a weak stock).

7. Another consideration when setting the Par Value or IPO price is the amount of funding the Corporate treasury will receive. Each Corporation starts with a treasury of 10 times the IPO price. Corporations floated at $55 per share will start with $550, while Corporations floated at $90 per share will start with $900. Generally, early opening Corporations float at a lower IPO price and later Corporations float at a higher IPO price.

OK, I know that this is a ton of information to digest. If anyone has any questions about the Initial Stock Round, please let me know ASAP. Feel free to post questions or comments (especially if it is your turn in the Stock Round) and I will do my best to offer a fair and unbiased answer. Unless somebody objects, we can begin the game in the next day or two. James, if nobody posts any questions in the next 24 hours, then feel free to take your first turn.



Current Game Status
James - Cash: $450, Bids: None, Privates: None
Costas - Cash: $450, Bids: None, Privates: None
Mike - Cash: $450, Bids: None, Privates: None
Virre - Cash: $450, Bids: None, Privates: None

James holds the Priority Deal and it is his turn to choose an option:

a. Buy Lexington Terminal RR for $20, or
b. Bid on another Private Company ($5 over face value), or
c. Pass

What will it be, James?
Costas Dimo
Canada
London
Ontario
flag msg tools
Avatar
patron070809
mbmbmbmbmb
Greetings everyone. My name is Costas Dimoglou.

I live in London, Ontario, Canada. I'm 30 yrs old, married with a 3 yr old son and a baby on the way. I fix fancy systems in hospitals by day, and usually one evening a week, I can get some friends together for a board game.

My favorite is Age of Steam (hence the moniker my friends gave me) but we typically play all kinds of games. The last couple of sessions were Power Grid. I enjoy teaching people new games and playing board games with my son - he loves Carcassonne.

I am really looking forward to learning 18GA. Many thanks to Ed for organizing this!


James Hemsley
United States
Iowa City
Iowa
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Question:

Will there be do-overs? Ie a really bad decision is made, could that decision be taken back?

I'm not advocating do-overs, but wanted to know one way or the other.

--James
James Hemsley
United States
Iowa City
Iowa
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Iceberg1 wrote:
Question:

Will there be do-overs? Ie a really bad decision is made, could that decision be taken back?

I'm not advocating do-overs, but wanted to know one way or the other.

--James


I'm re-reading this question and realizing how stupid it is. Nevermind. I guess I'm just a little worried about making a stupid mistake early in the game that will cause me to be out of the running.

--James
Ed Holzman
United States
Seffner
Florida
flag msg tools
Avatar
050607080910
mbmbmbmbmb
It is my policy to advise players of alternate courses of action if I think that they are making an error that will result in any player not getting full enjoyment out of the learning session. If you have a question and wish unbiased advice, then feel free to send me a GM and I will offer you said advice.

Play to have fun
Play to learn the system
Play to win ('cuz it's always more fun when you are winning)

Repeat after me: it's only a game...it's only a game...it's only a game. :D

EDIT: BTW, here's a poke in the ribs for ya James. Start the game whenever you are ready.
Last edited on 2007-09-13 13:23:42 CST (Total Number of Edits: 1)
James Hemsley
United States
Iowa City
Iowa
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Bearcat89 wrote:
It is my policy to advise players of alternate courses of action if I think that they are making an error that will result in any player not getting full enjoyment out of the learning session. If you have a question and wish unbiased advice, then feel free to send me a GM and I will offer you said advice.

Play to have fun
Play to learn the system
Play to win ('cuz it's always more fun when you are winning)

Repeat after me: it's only a game...it's only a game...it's only a game. :D

EDIT: BTW, here's a poke in the ribs for ya James. Start the game whenever you are ready.


Thanks, Ed. Sounds good.

Question: How much are cities and towns worth when calculating revenue? I see the two revenue numbers on "red" cities or external cities, but not the cities in Georgia proper.

--James
Ed Holzman
United States
Seffner
Florida
flag msg tools
Avatar
050607080910
mbmbmbmbmb
Iceberg1 wrote:
Question: How much are cities and towns worth when calculating revenue? I see the two revenue numbers on "red" cities or external cities, but not the cities in Georgia proper.

--James

Towns are always worth $10 (both on yellow and green tiles, there are no brown town tiles).
Yellow city tiles are generally worth $20. Atlanta is worth $30 on its yellow tile.
Green city tiles are generally worth $30. Atlanta is only worth $20 on its green tile and Augusta is worth $40 on its green tile.
Brown city tiles are generally worth $40. Atlanta is worth $70 on its brown tile, Augusta and Macon are worth $50 on their brown tiles, and Savannah is worth $60 on its brown tile.
Off-map (red and gray) areas pay their lower revenue value until the first 5 Train is purchased, when they immediately begin paying their higher revenue value.
James Hemsley
United States
Iowa City
Iowa
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
I see. The values are actually on the tiles, rather than the clean map. I don't think that was very clear in the instructions.

--James
James Hemsley
United States
Iowa City
Iowa
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
I would like to bid on the Ocilla Southern RR for $105.

--James
Ed Holzman
United States
Seffner
Florida
flag msg tools
Avatar
050607080910
mbmbmbmbmb
Iceberg1 wrote:
I would like to bid on the Ocilla Southern RR for $105.

--James

James bids $105 for the Ocilla Southern.

Current Game Status
James - Cash: $345, Bids: $105-OSRR, Privates: None
Costas - Cash: $450, Bids: None, Privates: None
Mike - Cash: $450, Bids: None, Privates: None
Virre - Cash: $450, Bids: None, Privates: None


Next up is Costas and he has the following options:

a. Buy Lexington Terminal RR for $20, or
b. Bid $110 or more for the Ocilla Southern, or
c. Bid on another Private Company ($5 over face value), or
d. Pass

What is your choice, Costas?
James Hemsley
United States
Iowa City
Iowa
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Hi everyone,

My name is James Hemsley.

I live in Iowa City, IA and have one baby daughter. I work at a large standardized testing company in marketing.

About a year ago, I discovered the whole "Euro-game" scene through the help of one of my classmates. I had been playing the standard, traditional board games most of my life. Axis and Allies was about as close as I came to playing a game you couldn't readily get at Wal-mart.

Computer games were another story and some of my favorites are very similar to board games or were successors to some of the great boardgames. Some favorites are Sim City, Civilization, GalCiv, Capitalism and Europa Universalis II.

Since stumbling upon BGG and all these great games, I've started a board game collection of my own. I generally gravitate toward economic or grand strategy games. Some of my favorites are PowerGrid, Imperial, Shogun, and Twilight Struggle. I'm open-minded though and will try anything once.

Some people in a local game group I visit sometimes play 18GA or 18AL. I've always been interested in them and even downloaded 1830 for DOS. I played a few games, but I will be honest: I still don't know what I was doing or how I lost every single one. I have to admit they are not as intuitive as I'd like.
Costas Dimo
Canada
London
Ontario
flag msg tools
Avatar
patron070809
mbmbmbmbmb
c. I bid $75 on W&S.
Ed Holzman
United States
Seffner
Florida
flag msg tools
Avatar
050607080910
mbmbmbmbmb
rockusultimus wrote:
c. I bid $75 on W&S.

Costas bids $75 on the Waycross & Southern RR.

Current Game Status
James - Cash: $345, Bids: $105-OSRR, Privates: None
Costas - Cash: $375, Bids: $75-W&S, Privates: None
Mike - Cash: $450, Bids: None, Privates: None
Virre - Cash: $450, Bids: None, Privates: None


Next up is Mike and he has the following options:

a. Buy Lexington Terminal RR for $20, or
b. Bid $80 or more for the W&S, or
c. Bid $110 or more for the Ocilla Southern, or
d. Bid on another Private Company ($5 over face value), or
e. Pass

What is your decision, Mike?


James Hemsley
United States
Iowa City
Iowa
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Hey Costas,

One of my roommates in college was from Woodstock, ON. His name is Kevin VanScheppen. You know him?
:)

Edit: for clarification
Last edited on 2007-09-13 15:22:28 CST (Total Number of Edits: 1)
Costas Dimo
Canada
London
Ontario
flag msg tools
Avatar
patron070809
mbmbmbmbmb
Iceberg1 wrote:
Hey Costas,

One of my roommates in college was from Woodstock, ON. His name is Kevin VanScheppen. You know him?
:)


Hi James,
I don't. Woodstock is only about 30 minutes from London, but I grew up in Windsor, ON (a suburb of Detroit, MI) and went to college in Toronto. My wife lured me to London. Does Kevin board game? There's always room at our game table...


James Hemsley
United States
Iowa City
Iowa
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Cool. Actually, Kevin now lives in Grand Rapids, and I would characterize him more as a computer guy, but who knows? Maybe he does!

--James
Arsenal 4th place
United Kingdom
Gloucester
flag msg tools
designer
Avatar
0506070809
mbmbmbmbmb
Ok, not being sure of what I'm doing - I will go for

Bid $80 for the W&S
James Hemsley
United States
Iowa City
Iowa
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
I don't know what I'm doing either! Just winging it!!

--James
Ed Holzman
United States
Seffner
Florida
flag msg tools
Avatar
050607080910
mbmbmbmbmb
mikehibbert wrote:
Ok, not being sure of what I'm doing - I will go for

Bid $80 for the W&S

Mike bids $80 for the W&S.

Current Game Status
James - Cash: $345, Bids: $105-OS, Privates: None
Costas - Cash: $375, Bids: $75-W&S, Privates: None
Mike - Cash: $370, Bids: $80-W&S, Privates: None
Virre - Cash: $450, Bids: None, Privates: None


Next up is Virre and he has the following options:

a. Buy Lexington Terminal RR for $20, or
b. Bid $85 or more for the W&S, or
c. Bid $110 or more for the Ocilla Southern, or
d. Bid on another Private Company ($5 over face value), or
e. Pass

What is your decision, Virre?
Virre "Yes thats my name, I have it in legal here" AnnergÄrd
Sweden
Stockholm
flag msg tools
Avatar
0607080910
mbmbmbmbmb
c. Bid $120 for Ocilla Southern

(I hope I know what I'm doing, but I doubt it)
Ed Holzman
United States
Seffner
Florida
flag msg tools
Avatar
050607080910
mbmbmbmbmb
virre wrote:
c. Bid $120 for Ocilla Southern

Virre bids $120 for the Ocilla Southern Railroad.

Current Game Status
James - Cash: $345, Bids: $105-OS, Privates: None
Costas - Cash: $375, Bids: $75-W&S, Privates: None
Mike - Cash: $370, Bids: $80-W&S, Privates: None
Virre - Cash: $330, Bids: $120-OS, Privates: None


Next up is James and he has the following options:

a. Buy Lexington Terminal RR for $20, or
b. Bid $85 or more for the W&S, or
c. Bid $125 or more for the Ocilla Southern, or
d. Bid on another Private Company ($5 over face value), or
e. Pass

What is your choice, James?
James Hemsley
United States
Iowa City
Iowa
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Question:

Why is there any advantage to me bidding more on the O&S? I've already got a seat at the bidding table, right?

--James
Ed Holzman
United States
Seffner
Florida
flag msg tools
Avatar
050607080910
mbmbmbmbmb
Iceberg1 wrote:
Question:

Why is there any advantage to me bidding more on the O&S? I've already got a seat at the bidding table, right?

--James

You are correct. Once you place a bid on a Private Company, you reserve a "seat" at the auction for that Private Company. There is no real advantage to placing that bid now, rather than waiting for the auction to occur.
James Hemsley
United States
Iowa City
Iowa
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Bid $155 on the Macon and Birmingham

--James
Costas Dimo
Canada
London
Ontario
flag msg tools
Avatar
patron070809
mbmbmbmbmb
I bid $125 on Ocilla Southern Railroad.

-Costas
1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5  Next »  [22] | 
Front Page | Welcome | Contact | Privacy Policy | DMCA | Advertise | Support BGG | Feeds RSS
BoardGameGeek and the BoardGameGeek logo are trademarks of BoardGameGeek, LLC.