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Lawrence Spode
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Video Review for Battle for Hill 218
This video is about 10 mins long and covers the basic gameplay.





http://www.archive.org/download/BookShelfGamesBSGep28-Battle...

(link opens straight to media or right click and hit Save Target as...to download.)

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Warren Cheung
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Nice review, with a good overview of all the rules.

Just wanted to point out (since its a bit buried in the forums) that programmer who wrote the AI posted here

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/2161170#2161170

saying the AI does not use card counting.

Pretty frightening, eh?
 
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Lawrence Spode
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Wow. That is suprising.
 
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Chad Ellis
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Nice overview!

You gave a very nice explanation of play, and if you don't mind I'd like to link to your show from our site. I do have a couple of tiny nitpicks:

When you describe Paratroopers, you stated (correctly) that they can't just drop into the enemy base. However, your description gave the impression that they couldn't enter the any base at all, and that the only reason for their supply diagram was for them to form a supply line for other units. In fact, a unit of Paratroopers can deploy into the enemy base as though it were a normal unit, i.e. if the enemy base is empty and if it can trace a supply line from the enemy base back to its own base.

As was already noted, the AI doesn't card-count at all. What it does do is combine two things:

1. Lessons I've learned from over three years of playing the prototype. (I didn't do any of the programming but I provided a lot of input to Andrew about how to value things and where the computer's play could be improved.)

2. A computer's natural ability not to miss any possibilities.

Basically the AI will examine all of its legal plays and the resulting positions and apply a scoring system to them. That scoring includes some basic things about what you might be able to do back to it (for example, if there is a possible win for you, it will try very hard to avoid it) but it doesn't check to see what cards are left when making that evaluation. If you've played all of your Special Forces the computer will still apply the same rating to a board position in which a win is possible only if you have Special Forces in your hand.

Again, thanks for a very good and thorough overview/review of Hill 218.
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The downloadable version was so much fun. That I had to order the game. Must say I hope my human opponents dont destroy me as bad as the computer. That thing makes me feel none to bright.
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coyotelaughs wrote:
The downloadable version was so much fun. That I had to order the game. Must say I hope my human opponents dont destroy me as bad as the computer. That thing makes me feel none to bright.


I've been playing that damn thing all day, and I've only won a single game. That thing is addictive as hell.

And, I must add, it's an excellent marketing tool - this will absolutely be in my next game order. For the price, it doesn't seem like you can go wrong.
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Yoki Erdtman
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First of all, thanks Lawrence, that was just a great review of the game. I totally fell in love with the game, and quickly checked out the online version.

Chad, what a great idea to develop the online version of the game. I love it! It took me a six failed attempts to actually read the rulebook, and then on my seventh try, on my last card, I finally won against the AI! I too am ordering this with my next batch of games.
 
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Thanks for the review, decided to buy it watching it and seeing it was inexpensive.

Apparently I was a playtester
 
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Veles wrote:
Thanks for the review, decided to buy it watching it and seeing it was inexpensive.

Apparently I was a playtester :p



????????????????????????
how can you be a playtester and not know????????????????
 
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Greyweather Fayre
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Thanks for the great review Lawrence. Your video convinced me to buy the game and it has been a real hit with everyone I have showed it to.
 
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