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Contest is now OPENED! CLOSED

Make a Print And Play game, and win GeekGold!

Rules below. If you have any questions, comments or suggestions just point those out. You can also check the topic where we discussed rules.


1. Participate in two-person teams - game designer and graphic artist. It does not matter if they both do graphics, or both design, just it has to be "officially" team of game-designer and graphics-designer.

2. One person cannot be in more than one team.

3. Single person cannot participate (no matter how genius designer and/or graphic-artist that person is - has to find somebody to help.)

4. Each team can participate with only one game design. Contest time - 2 months. Teams can mention that they are participating, but can upload the games only in the last two weeks of competition (so there would be no forgery, or unfair competition). Rules/components changes and clarifications may be done during that last weeks.

5. Teams will have to provide game that will consist of: full color box design (top and sides, no bottom), A5 rulebook that will be attractive visually, full color components that will take no more place than 8 A4 pages (it has to respect printer margins), AND black-white low-ink variant of all graphics including rulebook and minimalist box cover.

6. All used graphics has to be legal (graphic designer has to has permission or use own graphics - not to rip off Google Images).

7. The game must use original components only. Entrants cannot use Carcassonne tiles or Decktet cards or Piecepack bits or those Icehouse things... Generic, common gaming pieces such as regular 6-sided dice, or buttons/counters/pawns are allowed though.

8. There is no size limit on the rules. If you need 120 pages to explain your game, go for it.

9. Your entry may use any mechanics and may be themed or abstract. It may be for any number of players (but due to the theme limitations only logical game is for 2 or more players). The game can have any number of turns, including no turns at all. The game should be a game not puzzles (game should be replay-able)

10. There are following limitations on theme:
10.1. Co-Operative game. Most likely in the game, where co-operative mechanics would not be an obvious solution (as someone said "unexpected cooperation" - it sums up the idea nicely)
10.2. Game involving at least two steel swords (That does not influence the theme) It's up to you what will that mean. Interpreatate it anyway you want. And again - to clarify - that does not mean "game about two swords". Two swords may be a critical piece of game, that you need to collect to win as well as hidden prank in "Where is Wally" manner.

11. The cards (or tiles) do not have to be all the same shape or size. Any two dimensional shapes are acceptable. The L Game is a good example; it has 2 L shaped pieces and 2 squares as its main components plus a simple board. (3D-"cut, fold and glue" pieces for the game are welcome though. As long as you will be able to fit it with other components of the game on no more that A4 8 pages, I don't consider "rulebook" a component)

12. If team is from different countries, they must insert rules in their national languages to the rulebook (as well as English rules). So If there would be team X-Y - X is from Hungary, Y is from Germany, then rulebook would be in English, German, and Hungarian.

13. Game has to be designed DURING the contest time. (no entries like "I designed this game month ago", also - no late entires)

14. Post your game to thread via link to downloads and explain how the game works or post the rules. Preferabely - add your game as a BGG game entry to the database.

15. The winner will be determined by a poll that I'll create after all the entries are in. I'll create the poll on a separate thread so it gets some front page time and add links (if possible) to each entry's post's page. The poll will be open for one week! (no ties... there will be another poll if two games will gain the same number of votes... Like in championships...)

16. If you entrants change your game based on other the input of other users, it will be up to you to credit your helpers or not. (Though as I mentioned there is that "last weeks" rule to avoid that)

17. Any tips given the contest thread will be added to the prize pool, with possibility of adding "third place prize". Also tips I've received when I first announced upcoming contest and consulted rules will be added to the prize pool. Also all Geek Gold collected thanks to moderation and Geek Modders will be added to the prize pool. The final prize will be announced on opening on the voting thread.

18. First prize: 30GG for designer, and 30GG for graphic designer. Second prize 10GG for designer and 10GG for artist. Those are guaranteed but not final prizes (look above).

19. Tips given to the VOTING thread will not be added to prize pool, so please don't tip it. If you insist on giving a tip to the voting thread, GG will be added to next contest I will organize. If I will fail to organize next contest, GG will be added to a contest (organized by someone else) that will be running at that time. There are contest organized from time to time.

20. I'm not eligible to win. I will not enter. I can vote.

21. Print and Play game design contest begins 28th of June at 0:00A.M. PST. I know it may seem to be stupid time, but where I live it will be 9:00A.M. Contest ends 30th of August at 3:00P.M. PST. (15:00 in 24h display) midnight of my timezone. First entries can be posted on 16th of August, no time specified here, just 16th of August. Then we will take some time off (decided on quantity of entries, but probably about one week) to playtest games. The voting will start one week after contest end (or more - depends). Voting time - one week. I will create voting poll in voting thread.


Big "Thank You" to Geek Modders who expanded this award during moderation.
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geekgoldAnd don't forget to add 1 GG to the pool!geekgold

No, it's not required, but I think it is a good custom (that began during the last PnP contest). For those entering the contest, one GG isn't going to break your bank account, but it really adds to the final prize money and shows your appreciation to your fellow designers.

Good luck everyone!
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Teams

If you want to post here, I can update this post with the teams. Feel free to give your team a name. :)





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Contest is up for almost two days and no questions? Either I'm genius, and rules are clearly written, or everybody is working hard on entries so hard that has no time to question anything :D
Have you noticed that this thread is on Hot list of forum threads on the frontpage? That's because it collects nearly one thumb an hour. Impressive, but soon it's going to sink a little. So spread news about it everywhere! I added links to this thread on Board Game Design Forum, and on the forum of Graphic Designers and Artists Guild.

Also two more observations:
- as I mentioned before I sent this thread though the moderation. I added with bold font on the beginning that all GeekGold, they will award it with will be spent on contest prizes. They were really considerate, the awards were really high giving total 4,45 - I just wonder why it resulted in such weird amount of GeekGold but I believe some of them awarded it 4GG (because there are 4 base prizes - very thoughtful) and some of them 5GG (because simply you can't award with more). I didn't expect at first that it will work when I mention what I'll do with the award GG. But it worked - GeekModders took this really seriously, and I'm really happy about it. That is why I made this a new tradition - every contest I will announce in the future will go through the moderation. I encourage every future contest host to do the same.

- on the voting thread about Dice Contest Reprint wrote "the winners are... everyone". I just realized how true is this for current contest. Due to the rules (no.5 in particular) the easiest way to enter the contest will be to add BGG database entry about participating game design. Let's say admins will award entry with 2GG, then every file with another 2GG (let's assume average quantity of files equals 3) every picture with 1GG (let's assume 5). Then every participating team AUTOMATICALLY collects participating award of 13 geek gold. Isn't that great? What I also find really amusing is the gallery for Homesteaders. There are pictures of stages of doing artwork it's really interesting and gives great overview on artists work for the game. Good luck with designs then.
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rudolfoaligieri123 wrote:
Let's say admins will award entry with 2GG, then every file with another 2GG (let's assume average quantity of files equals 3)

You can't count on GG from files, though. Files for your own PnP games aren't always awarded GG. It's hit-and-miss.
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sq498 wrote:
rudolfoaligieri123 wrote:
Let's say admins will award entry with 2GG, then every file with another 2GG (let's assume average quantity of files equals 3)

You can't count on GG from files, though. Files for your own PnP games aren't always awarded GG. It's hit-and-miss.

And that is EXACTLY the reason for rule no.1. :D
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I guess we will be the first to announce our team...

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Those are just our primary roles... I'm sure we will be collaborating on all aspects of the game, though I'm sure Daniel will help me with the game design much more than I with the graphics.

No team name as of yet...
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sq498 wrote:
rudolfoaligieri123 wrote:
Let's say admins will award entry with 2GG, then every file with another 2GG (let's assume average quantity of files equals 3)

You can't count on GG from files, though. Files for your own PnP games aren't always awarded GG. It's hit-and-miss.


:wow:

I didn't know that!
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Howitzer_120mm wrote:
sq498 wrote:
rudolfoaligieri123 wrote:
Let's say admins will award entry with 2GG, then every file with another 2GG (let's assume average quantity of files equals 3)

You can't count on GG from files, though. Files for your own PnP games aren't always awarded GG. It's hit-and-miss.


:wow:

I didn't know that!
I've never had this issue, whether submitting files for the icehouse games I designed, or the dice game, and certainly not for the game expansions I designed. Now, when I submitted updates or corrections, I may not have gotten much (or any), but I'm cool with that.
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spearjr wrote:
I've never had this issue, whether submitting files for the icehouse games I designed, or the dice game, and certainly not for the game expansions I designed. Now, when I submitted updates or corrections, I may not have gotten much (or any), but I'm cool with that.

After all of the files for my first two PnP games received 0 GG, I contacted an admin to ask about it and was informed that that's the policy. However, some of my other PnP files have received rewards, so I think it's flexible. At any rate, the submission itself and pictures still receive GG, so it's not like you don't get anything.
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I don't do it for the GG... I just do it for the babes.
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sq498 wrote:
spearjr wrote:
I've never had this issue, whether submitting files for the icehouse games I designed, or the dice game, and certainly not for the game expansions I designed. Now, when I submitted updates or corrections, I may not have gotten much (or any), but I'm cool with that.

After all of the files for my first two PnP games received 0 GG, I contacted an admin to ask about it and was informed that that's the policy. However, some of my other PnP files have received rewards, so I think it's flexible. At any rate, the submission itself and pictures still receive GG, so it's not like you don't get anything.

This happened to me, too. There were two file submissions for which I received 0 GG. I thought it was a bug or something, but I guess it wasn't.
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3. Single person cannot participate (no matter how genius designer and/or graphic-artist that person is - has to find somebody to help.)


And I stopped reading. I'm out. Too bad; it sounded fun and I would have liked a shot at it, but hey, I don't have anyone to participate with, so why even try...
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rudolfoaligieri123 wrote:

10.2. Game involving at least two steel swords (That does not influence the theme) It's up to you what will that mean. Interpret it anyway you want. And again - to clarify - that does not mean "game about two swords". Two swords may be a critical piece of game, that you need to collect to win as well as hidden prank in "Where is Wally" manner.


I lied. I kept reading.

But this... umm... what is the point of this? Don't you think that you should really highlight this section of the rules, name the contest after this quirk, explain why it is you have this affectation in the game? This is the distinguishing feature of your contest. You need to put this front and center - thread title, premise number one of contest.
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I'm sure a lot of teams will have both working on design, perhaps both on graphics. But in the "Teams" post above, I just had one person for each role.
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rudolfoaligieri123 wrote:

10.2. Game involving at least two steel swords (That does not influence the theme) It's up to you what will that mean. Interpret it anyway you want. And again - to clarify - that does not mean "game about two swords". Two swords may be a critical piece of game, that you need to collect to win as well as hidden prank in "Where is Wally" manner.


I lied. I kept reading.

But this... umm... what is the point of this? Don't you think that you should really highlight this section of the rules, name the contest after this quirk, explain why it is you have this affectation in the game? This is the distinguishing feature of your contest. You need to put this front and center - thread title, premise number one of contest.


lol. I don't know.
That rule was made spontaneously (did I wrote that word right?). In the thread were we discussed rules - that rule wasn't there at the beginning, but everyone suggested giving some slight (because that co-operation between two people is really hard one in here) limitation on the game. So here it is. Game MUST have two swords - it's a distincting feature, yes, but not major one. Due to what we discussed I get the feeling that it will be really hard to find that swords in some games. Like "So where is it?" "Whoa, you havent found it? It's emblem on the UBER-General's no.7 boots." Or "so... You have to collect 100 and 2 swords to win the game, huh?"

About you not reading the rules anymore. Just go and find some artist out there and come back. You will be really welcome.
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If you want to get technical about the "2 swords" thing:
The organiser is aiming for "the minimum structure that will provide the maximum spontaneity".
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The Mithril Miners
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Rule Clarification needed.

Since we are adding more and more stuff to our game (at least it feels like it... aaah so much to concider), I just wanted to make sure of the following:

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5. Teams will have to provide game that will consist of: full color box design (top and sides, no bottom), A5 rulebook that will be attractive visually, full color components that will take no more place than 8 A4 pages (it has to respect printer margins), AND black-white low-ink variant of all graphics including rulebook and minimalist box cover.



The box design is neither part of the 8 colored pages, nor in the 8 black and white pages. Right?
Those 8 pages are reserved for game materials such as tiles, counters, and dice.


Here is an (rather pointless) inside info: The working title starts with an "E".
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5. Teams will have to provide game that will consist of: full color box design (top and sides, no bottom), A5 rulebook that will be attractive visually, full color components that will take no more place than 8 A4 pages (it has to respect printer margins), AND black-white low-ink variant of all graphics including rulebook and minimalist box cover.
The box design is neither part of the 8 colored pages, nor in the 8 black and white pages. Right?
Those 8 pages are reserved for game materials such as tiles, counters, and dice.

Correct.
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If there are any artists needing a designer, I'll throw my hat into the ring.

I have now been drafted.

Presenting Team #5...

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- as himself, the guy that makes train games.

We're going to make the best pony game ever made. Or something else. Probably something else. But it'll be cool! You see!

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Team #6!!!

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We are going to co-operate to make our most co-operative game EVER!
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Team #6!!!

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We are going to co-operate to make our most co-operative game EVER!


I guessed on the designer/graphics credits. Tell me if I was wrong (team post up above)
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Ya that's probably how it will work out :)
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