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Lindsey Dubb
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Thought I'd ask an obvious question (at least for someone who doesn't speak Czech): How do you say Vlaada Chvátil's name? The first name I can maybe guess (vlahda, or something like that). But Chvátil? Is the 'ch' like in English (tsh), or German (the international phonetic x), or something else entirely? And is the 'i' closer to a short i (as in bit), or long (as in the 'ee's in beet)?

Clearly, knowing this will allow me to play a better game of Through the Ages.
 
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It's pronounced /yoo da maen/ !
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Lindsey wrote:
Thought I'd ask an obvious question (at least for someone who doesn't speak Czech): How do you say Vlaada Chvátil's name? The first name I can maybe guess (vlahda, or something like that). But Chvátil? Is the 'ch' like in English (tsh), or German (the international phonetic x), or something else entirely? And is the 'i' closer to a short i (as in bit), or long (as in the 'ee's in beet)?

Clearly, knowing this will allow me to play a better game of Through the Ages.


As far as I know, you almost have the first name. It's "vlaahda", but the "v" is a little more "f"-like, but not an "f"

The surname starts with a sound we don't really use in English ... almost a cross between a "y" and a "ch". (A little like how the Germans pronounce the middle of Michael Schumacher's surname, a soft "ch". Edit: That's the middle of "Schumacher", not "Michael"

So the surname is "ch"-vaaah-till.

Does that make sense ?


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I asked someone from the Czech Republic once (long story). What he said sounded like "Hwatil". Try to think of the 'v' as a 'w'.
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Vlaada is a transcription or a nickname of sorts, in Czech it's Vláďa (UTF-8), which itself is a short of Vladimir. So the middle "a" is long and the "d" is soft (not used in English), like in Russian names (Volodya).

"Ch" in Chvatil is a velar consonant, similar to the German (acht, machen), Dutch (Schiphol) or Hebrew (Chaim) one. The "t" is again soft, as in Vladimir Putin (the correct pronunciation, not "Putyn", as pronounced by most Americans).

But me, I pronounce Vlaada Chvatil "Bloody Freakin' Genius"
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Lovely effort, but I suspect that I'll never know for sure until someone posts an audio file.
 
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Vojta Kadlec
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Jeff Chunko wrote:
Lovely effort, but I suspect that I'll never know for sure until someone posts an audio file.


Karlos linguistic definition is awsome cool But as U said unless I can say it, it is hard to understand.

I wish I have better microphone. But still I hope this will help U guys


http://www.mediafire.com/?dqjuvmx5xjkjjs4
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Lindsey Dubb
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Thank you! I still probably won't be able to pronounce his name correctly, but now I know how it's supposed to be said.

Also, I did well in my game of Through the Ages yesterday. Coincidence? I think not.
 
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The mediafire link has expired
 
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http://translate.google.com/?hl=cs&tab=wT#cs/en/vl%C3%A1%C4%...

Not perfect but very, very close!!!
Just press the "play" button on the left column...
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Moviebuffs wrote:
The surname starts with a sound we don't really use in English ... almost a cross between a "y" and a "ch".

An exception would be in the Scottish, as in "loch."

You produce it basically like a "k" (indeed, the way a non-Scots speaker would render "loch" into "lock"), except instead of closing the back of the tongue to produce a clap of air, you merely restrict the airflow to a turbulent hiss.
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Polylux1 wrote:
http://translate.google.com/?hl=cs&tab=wT#cs/en/vl%C3%A1%C4%...

Not perfect but very, very close!!! :)
Just press the "play" button on the left column...

I see no play button. I even translated the translation page into english.
 
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entranced wrote:
Polylux1 wrote:
http://translate.google.com/?hl=cs&tab=wT#cs/en/vl%C3%A1%C4%...

Not perfect but very, very close!!!
Just press the "play" button on the left column...

I see no play button. I even translated the translation page into english.


Little megaphone button that I totally thought was the volume control until I clicked it.
 
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the pete wrote:
I see no play button. I even translated the translation page into english.


It seems to work only in some browsers.

No button at all in Safari on Mac OS.

I do get the button in Chrome on Mac OS, but it doesn't work.
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DaviddesJ wrote:
It seems to work only in some browsers.

Ah yeah. Doesn't work in the latest Firefox, works in IE8.

Vladia Hvatiel.

Vladimir Chavatiel.
 
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So Google Translate function works in IE8, doesn't work in Chrome. Thanks, Google.
 
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Pete Martyn
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I've got a working button in Chrome running Windows 7, FWIW.
 
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German, Scottish, Dutch... I wondered why no one has mentioned IMHO the easiest explanation of the czech 'ch' sound for the english speaking - it's almost the exact sound as the spanish jota, e.g. 'jóven', 'jarro', 'Juan'.

http://translate.google.com/#es/en/j%C3%B3ven%2C%20jarro%2C%...

I've always found the the trademark name 'Vlaada Chvátil' as a transcription of the original 'Vláďa Chvátil' a little bit unfortunate. Of all the difficulties the non-Czech speakers might have with his name, for some reason he chose only the 'AAs' to emphasize the prolonged vowel. Changing the transcription of the surname to 'Khvátil' in the first place would have been of much more help in my opinion.
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timstellmach wrote:
Moviebuffs wrote:
The surname starts with a sound we don't really use in English ... almost a cross between a "y" and a "ch".

An exception would be in the Scottish, as in "loch."

You produce it basically like a "k" (indeed, the way a non-Scots speaker would render "loch" into "lock"), except instead of closing the back of the tongue to produce a clap of air, you merely restrict the airflow to a turbulent hiss.


I don't close my tongue to make a 'k' sound...
 
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