I also have a question about Peddler: Since you don't play actions during your buy phase, when using a card like Apprentice or Remodel or Saboteur on Peddler, you treat this card as if it cost 8, right? If so...well, that's going to be fun.

I'd like to try a Bishop/Peddler/Worker's Village strategy; you should be able to get free (or 2-cost) Peddlers most turns, while using Bishop to trash Peddlers and get 5 VP Chips each turn. It would take a lot of cards, though, so it would be very risky and difficult to set up, but it sure could be fun, and it would never clog your deck.

The biggest problem would probably be that it is such an obvious combo that nearly everyone in the game will try for it so each player will only get to trash a few Peddlers this way.

I'd like to try a Bishop/Peddler/Worker's Village strategy; you should be able to get free (or 2-cost) Peddlers most turns, while using Bishop to trash Peddlers and get 5 VP Chips each turn. It would take a lot of cards, though, so it would be very risky and difficult to set up, but it sure could be fun, and it would never clog your deck.

only 4VP check the specific section for peddler, the cost is reduced for cards in the deck and hand. play bishop peddler goes from 8 to 6, divide by 2 = 3 VP + 1 VP from bishop = 4 VP.

It's cost only is reduced in the buy phase. During all other parts of your turn or other players turn it cost 8.

Well, to be very technical, the cost would be reduced during your opponents' Buy phases as well.

No, the card states "During your buy phase"

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Never thought of it that way, I guess you can smuggle one.

Huh, you're right. The card states "During your Buy phase" but the FAQ in the rules says "During Buy phases". In practice it shouldn't matter, at least with the cards that have been released.

How is it that you can use Smugglers to gain a Peddler? I don't think it's possible without Bridge (or Black Market/Quarry)).

Huh, you're right. The card states "During your Buy phase" but the FAQ in the rules says "During Buy phases". In practice it shouldn't matter, at least with the cards that have been released.

It also specifically says that the Black Market "mini-Buy phase" is not considered to be a Buy Phase, so you have to pay top dollar for Black Market Peddlers. That's too bad.

This is a strange ruling since this will now almost never be bought during a black market buy phase.

I'd like to try a Bishop/Peddler/Worker's Village strategy; you should be able to get free (or 2-cost) Peddlers most turns, while using Bishop to trash Peddlers and get 5 VP Chips each turn. It would take a lot of cards, though, so it would be very risky and difficult to set up, but it sure could be fun, and it would never clog your deck.

Don't forget how Quarry and Expand could factor into this. So, you could theoretically get a Peddler for free, and the next turn, Expand it into a Colony. Uh...holy crap.

This is a strange ruling since this will now almost never be bought during a black market buy phase.

Quarry is the sickest card in the set. And a must-buy in turn 1 or 2.

Quarry is the sickest card in the set. And a must-buy in turn 1 or 2.

15 games in, disagree completely. I'd say Goons, Royal Seal, or Counting House have been the most common kingdom cards in winning players' decks.

Assuming you don't have a 5-2 split to open, a turn 1 or 2 Quarry should give the best odds on being able to get a turn 3 or 4 Goons or Counting House.