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It seems like I've read a lot of criticisms about the Western US map. Or, I've read one criticism shared by many players. Can't seem to recall it though... but, this is my impression. Can some chime in on this?

 
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No idea. I like the map!
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I seem to recall hearing an old interview with Martin Wallace where he said it was his favorite map.
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It's been a long time since I've played the map, and I don't have the rules in front of me, but what I can recall has to do with the players having to start on one of the cities on either side of the map, and maintaining contiguous track. What happens is that one player will inevitably have to start on the west coast, where the mountains are dense, and add a lot to expenses. That person is effectively out of the game from the start, unless other players bid the first players up so that they pay a lot more for the privilege of going earlier in the turn order.

Keep in mind, the only time I played this was over five years ago, and this is just what I recall about the map, and what I heard about it.
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It's been a long time since I've played the map, and I don't have the rules in front of me, but what I can recall has to do with the players having to start on one of the cities on either side of the map, and maintaining contiguous track. What happens is that one player will inevitably have to start on the west coast, where the mountains are dense, and add a lot to expenses. That person is effectively out of the game from the start, unless other players bid the first players up so that they pay a lot more for the privilege of going earlier in the turn order.

Keep in mind, the only time I played this was over five years ago, and this is just what I recall about the map, and what I heard about it.


That's right, this is what I think I remember. So, you are talking where on the map?

 
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But there are 7 start cities on the East coast. I even like with 7 players!
Although I agree with the majority community that it shines with 4 or 5.
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I've never played the map but I always thought the default setup for 4-players was 3 in the east and 1 in the west. The 3 fighting in the east makes up for the high costs of the west. Also, the contiguous track requirement is only in effect until the east and west are connected.
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According to the rules there are 7 starting cities on the East coast and 3 on the West coast. Players are free to select any one of these to start from.

And of course, players are also free to play with house rules if they want
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I think 5 was a great number. Wouldn't play it with 4. Six could be better as it would get more people intermingling faster.

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Also the contiguous route requirement effectively knocks others out too if one person gets in front of another in the same area. its a harsh board.
 
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medievalbanquet wrote:
Can some chime in on this?


Propagated Groupthink based on an early 03/04 review/report on rec.games.board, lost in the vastness time and virtual space, if I recall correctly. Some people thought it was too hard a map, until they played Italy the next year.
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John Bohrer wrote:
medievalbanquet wrote:
Can some chime in on this?


Propagated Groupthink based on an early 03/04 review/report on rec.games.board, lost in the vastness time and virtual space, if I recall correctly. Some people thought it was too hard a map, until they played Italy the next year.


Oooh, is Italy harder? I always blew that one off b/c its on the back of France. France makes me sad so I've foresaken Italy as well.

 
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medievalbanquet wrote:
Oooh, is Italy harder?


Italy is a knife fight in a cage.

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Sounds like I should bring a gun then.

John, can you look at the transcontinental post and weigh in?
 
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medievalbanquet wrote:
John, can you look at the transcontinental post and weigh in?


Nice Session report, the same five guys should play Italy.
Costas and Mik are right, so I thumbed them.
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medievalbanquet wrote:
John, can you look at the transcontinental post and weigh in?

what post?
 
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photocurio wrote:
medievalbanquet wrote:
John, can you look at the transcontinental post and weigh in?

what post?


http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/584232/

 
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