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Jan Dreske
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Yeah, crossbowmen, yeah, Tyrion!

Rickard and one of his fellow cavalry units went to block the ford. Tyrion sent two
of his own clansmen units to try and drive them off. He himself and the third cavalry
passed the southern ford, my plan was to have them ride up and take the objective
at the forest, or maybe attack Rickard from behind.

Kevan ordered the crossbowmen to step forward and cause some losses to the
kennelmasters. The lone lannisport guards unit occupied the mountain. In the
center, Maege came with full force, aided by blue stark cavalry. They secured the
central objective, took the mountain next to it and started to fight my pikemen,
which were in “always flank me” formation.

Meanwhile on the eastern flank, red cavalry came down onto my blue one, killing
them and riding onto the ford. My own cavalry drove Rickard from the ford and had
their companions move onto it. Rickard killed them, though. Tyrion rode north to
get behind Rickard and near to the topmost objective.

Greatjon advanced slowly, some northmen taking damage from crossbow men.
The kennelmasters sent their dogs, and soon there were but reduced strength
cleganes, causing no serious damage anymore.

Devan and heavy infantry engaged the red cavalry on the ford, with little effect.
The other infantry unit tried to help in the center, but Maege had everything under
control. My pikemen killed the blue cavalry, but then got butchered, too.

Rickard did not step onto the ford he cleared at once, so my other cavalry took
the point. Some Stark archers came over, but they could not prevent Tyrion from
reaching the topmost point and deactivating Rickard thanks to one of his command
cards.

It was the beginning of round 4, i was holding three points of interest, and there
seemed no way for Stark to win. The northeast flank was lost for him, and Greatjons
soldiers were still a little too far away from the southern building occupied by Kevan.

I finally managed to get rid of red cavalry thanks to my heavy infantry, and Daven
stepped onto the ford to seal my victory. Overall battlefield presence seemed in
Starks favor, Greatjon and Maege had lost just few of their fellow soldiers. But they
were too short on time, and Rickard had given up the right flank too easily.

(Stark said he was distracted by all the nice painted minis we finished just in time
for this scenario. Otherwise, he would have thought more about victory conditions,
not wasting so much time on the left flank, and not letting Karstark try to win on his
own at the other side.)

This is how the battlefield looked at the end of round 4:

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Ian McCarthy
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It takes quite some time to get all those minis painted, doesn't it?

I'm curious about the crossbowmen. When I saw their aimed shot ability, I thought that it was thematic, easy to remember and awesome. Were they effective, fun to play?
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Jan Dreske
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I really takes quite some time.
We do not have painting sessions as in "lets spend the saturday painting". Whenever there is not enough time left after work to play a round, we paint for half an hour.
Its feels nice, whenever a new unit is finished and can be used on the battlefield. (When painted figures die, i always change unpainted figures still on the battlefield with my painted ones. They look so much better!)

I will post my first impressions with crossbowmen in the strategy section soon!
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Christoph Breitkopf
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lannister4live wrote:
I will post my first impressions with crossbowmen in the strategy section soon!


Ok, then I'll wait for that thread to post my impressions, other than noting that they happened to be on the side with the least action in this battle, and so they did not turn out to be a decisive force. That might change in other scenarios, or maybe also in this one if I had really tried to take that target, for example by using the road.
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Christoph Breitkopf
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argwinkle wrote:
lannister4live wrote:
I will post my first impressions with crossbowmen in the strategy section soon!


Ok, then I'll wait for that thread to post my impressions, other than noting that they happened to be on the side with the least action in this battle, and so they did not turn out to be a decisive force. That might change in other scenarios, or maybe also in this one if I had really tried to take that target, for example by using the road.

Convenience link: Crossbowmen strategy thread.
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Jürgen Graf
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I have no clue how Stark could win this scenario. The Greatjon is simply too slow to have any impact on the outcomes. Maege Mormont who holds the center can't play more than one order card per turn. And Karstark has simply too much to do on all fronts. (He is responsible for 3-4 objective points – not to forget he's facing all that horse-killing infantry.)

Lannister has more heavy troups (and more specialised troups) than stark and Lannister can play one more order card per turn. I think this scenario has severe balance issues.
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Jan Dreske
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This "horse-killing" infantry is actually far less of a thread to cavalry than i would love to see. Thei either are in a formation where they dont do any serious damage, or the get easily killed or at least to reduced strength, before they can act. Besides, they still dont hit cav on valor.

But yes, i partially agree, this scenario seems to be in Lannisters favor. We actually replayed this not too long ago, i should check the notes/pictures for that run.
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