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Subject: Card backs darker than base game rss

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senorcoo wrote:
Jason - wait a minute. They lightened the artwork without telling you? Forgive me if I'm mostly ignorant of how the gaming business works, but isn't it someone's job at FF to...I dunno...CHECK the final product before sending it out? I'm sorry, but that sounds like a total cop out to me. Like something from the 4th grade, "It wasn't me! Billy did it!"

And when you say that you'll be printing a new sheet for sale on the site, does that mean WE have to cut out our own cards?

If they were in a rush they may not have compared expansion to base set. (while not good.. understandable in a way.. I have many times pushed code to dev that worked in my sandbox with out remembering to check how it worked with everything on dev server. As a young programmer anyways.. I try not to do that anymore. )
And I doubt they would make us cut our own cards. haha.

But either way..
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They took care of the problem... I can lift the ban I put on buying their products. I finally have something to buy this month! haha.
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senorcoo wrote:
And when you say that you'll be printing a new sheet for sale on the site, does that mean WE have to cut out our own cards?


He most probably meant that the cards will be printed on a single sheet, so color consistency will be guaranteed. I'm not sure, but maybe between different sheets there could be a difference.
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Thanks for responding Jason. That's great to hear and will definitely pick up a copy when it's available.
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If you could post here when they are available, that would be appreciated.
 
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senorcoo wrote:
Jason - wait a minute. They lightened the artwork without telling you? Forgive me if I'm mostly ignorant of how the gaming business works, but isn't it someone's job at FF to...I dunno...CHECK the final product before sending it out? I'm sorry, but that sounds like a total cop out to me. Like something from the 4th grade, "It wasn't me! Billy did it!"

And when you say that you'll be printing a new sheet for sale on the site, does that mean WE have to cut out our own cards?


Cards are printed on sheets and then cut...we won't have to cut anything. It will be a pack of all the secrets and because they were printed at the same time, they'll all have the same color darkness. Sounds like a fine solution to me.

We asked for a response, we got one AND a solution for those who are bothered by the different back. Better late than never I say.
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I'm so glad a solution has been offered. I still think this should have been caught before going out, and perhaps reprinted base game secrets included in the expansions to fix if it was actually the base game with the problem. In any event, if this means there won't be any problems moving forward, then I'm back on the fan list for FFP. But I'm keeping a watchful eye out!
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Same here. Caution going forward.
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The issue still comes down to someone at FFP signing off on proofs without actually paying attention to them. That said, I'm really glad to see a response and a fix, though it seems odd to me that the customer is the one who has to pay shipping.

Looks like I'll be finally picking up a copy of The Coast once the new cards are out.
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Hi Jason,
I'm sorry to hear about the loss in your family.

Thanks for taking the time to respond to this thread, I'm thrilled that the Secrets deck will be reprinted! I'll be checking the FFP website in March and ordering my copy as soon as possible. I am also extremely excited for the Fortune and Glory expansion (my favorite FFP game so far.)
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I contacted FFP and this is the response I got:

QUOTE wrote:
Hello Joanna,

We understand your concern about color variation in card backs. As gamers, ourselves, this always bothered us when playing our favorite games and having cards not match. We've made it a priority with our manufacturer in China. However, we've come to realize that there are always color variations in printing that cannot be helped. The variation shown in your photos is within the range of variation that we get in the printing process. I'm sorry for the difference in tint that you're seeing. Card replacements would also have similar variations.

Thank you,
Chris Kemnow
Flying Frog Productions, LLC


I guess I'll just have to deal with the color variation or sleeve the cards. Does any one know what sleeve size fits FFP cards? If I do sleeve, I'll just do the Secret cards, since I really really really do not like sleeves. Oh well.


Most sleeves are see through. I use them all the time. Do they actually makes ones that conceal the backs of the cards?
 
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Yes. There are lots of companies out there selling card sleeves that are clear on one side and a variety of color choices on the back. If you search on ebay they are easy to find.
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1932f20 wrote:
Yes. There are lots of companies out there selling card sleeves that are clear on one side and a variety of color choices on the back. If you search on ebay they are easy to find.


Thanks for the response!
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New replacement secrets cards are now available at Flying Frogs website!!
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Yup. I ordered mine...along with the Fortune and Glory additional danger cards as well. ninja
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senorcoo wrote:
Yup. I ordered mine...along with the Fortune and Glory additional danger cards as well. ninja

Same here. Thanks to FF for fixing them. thumbsup
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Excellent. Finally time to buy The Coast!
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Thanks Dan for posting they are available. I'm surprised someone from FF didn't post here about it. Did you just discover it by accident? Boy is their website out of date!
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ScottE wrote:
Thanks Dan for posting they are available. I'm surprised someone from FF didn't post here about it. Did you just discover it by accident? Boy is their website out of date!


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I actually saw it when someone posted last night that there is a web exclusive Danger card pack available for Fortune and Glory. If you have that game you might want to pick that up also!

I have been checking their site every day for something new and... nothing.
I know they are a very small company and they sure crank a lot of product out, so i suspect the web site gets neglected. I suppose someone from FF will post something soon. We fans just do not have patience
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1932f20 wrote:
ScottE wrote:
Thanks Dan for posting they are available. I'm surprised someone from FF didn't post here about it. Did you just discover it by accident? Boy is their website out of date!


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I actually saw it when someone posted last night that there is a web exclusive Danger card pack available for Fortune and Glory. If you have that game you might want to pick that up also!

I have been checking their site every day for something new and... nothing.
I know they are a very small company and they sure crank a lot of product out, so i suspect the web site gets neglected. I suppose someone from FF will post something soon. We fans just do not have patience

I agree, no patience here!

Though, the be honest it will probably be a great while before we play again so no big rush. But ordered anyway in case they run out.
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How much is the shipping within the US?
 
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I paid $5.23 in shipping for the replacement Secret cards and the FANG Danger Pack.
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Thanks.

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I paid $5.23 in shipping for the replacement Secret cards and the FANG Danger Pack.
 
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I paid $2.99 just for the replacement cards.
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Ordered to Canada and I paid about $5.00
 
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My little package of FFP web supplements arrived today, including the Secrets card. Now the problem of what to do with the old cards!? They just seem too nice and I'm a little too much of a hoarder to toss them in the trash without reluctance.
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