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I (Minion Games) has been thinking about doing some coins and victory point markers in a bag for a reasonable price to support Prototype making as well as you Print and Play and DIY type of people. But I wonder if there might be more of a market for that to do something like this. There have been several kickstarter campaigns with metal coins and with poker chips and they seem to go over well- but they are always pretty expensive. What if you could buy a few sheets of coins or VP markers for say $10 at your local game store?

Thoughts? Suggestions? Denomination recommendations?

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I'd love some nice quality cardboard coins, Poker chips don't really do it for me.

A nice selection of 1,2,5,10,20,50 and 100's would be brilliant.
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tel999 wrote:

A nice selection of 1,2,5,10,20,50 and 100's would be brilliant.


That's my thought too but tend to be an argument over 2 vs 3, or 20 vs 25.

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Similar to these, or will they have numbers on them?
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RPGShop wrote:
I (Minion Games) has been thinking about doing some coins and victory point markers in a bag for a reasonable price to support Prototype making as well as you Print and Play and DIY type of people. But I wonder if there might be more of a market for that to do something like this. There have been several kickstarter campaigns with metal coins and with poker chips and they seem to go over well- but they are always pretty expensive. What if you could buy a few sheets of coins or VP markers for say $10 at your local game store?

Thoughts? Suggestions? Denomination recommendations?


I certainly would be in for that. I own a lot of poker chips, but the weight bothers me, so cardboard chips would be great.
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I'd buy them.
 
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Howitzer_120mm wrote:

Similar to these, or will they have numbers on them?


Yeah but I'm thinking a bit thicker (2mm) and better art and color and shapes. Yes they'd have obvious numbers. But in general yeah.

Maybe we can look though the games in the database and find interesting/favorite pictures of ones people like?





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I love the Arkham Horror dollar bill tokens:



Visually appealing, and nice and thick!

Something along those lines, maybe?
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berserkley wrote:
I love the Arkham Horror dollar bill tokens:



Visually appealing, and nice and thick!

Something along those lines, maybe?


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Great idea. Something with the thickness & weight of these would be nice.

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Something like the tokens from Dominion: Prosperity, only in cardboard, would be great. Round coins for money and shield shapes for VPs.

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I think there could be a market for these type of coins.

The idea of metal coins to replace my games standard currency is a tempting one. But, I don't like the metal coin idea overall.

1) the coins, being metal, are going to probably clash against all of the other components; they will seem out of place, brought into the game and ultimately a distraction.
2) spending a pretty coin for pretty coins (metal) will not work with the various themes of a persons library. So, time to put up more coin for more coins.

Ah, but cardboard coins! Now this could be a more effective option both in value and aesthetics.
1) Cardboard coins would be cheaper. Cheaper coins means you'll get more for your [real] money.
2) Various designs (fantasy, ancient, celtic, nomadic, etc) can easily be established. The designs could also allow for various shapes. And all of it done much cheaper than their metal counterparts.
3) Providing for the various game themes becomes a good possiblity. The coins would match the game(s).

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I suspect a lot of us DIYs pimp our tokens by edging them with colored markers. To produce cardboard coins and markers I would suggest looking into: paper that when cut will be the overall color of the token (no need to edge with a marker to get rid of the exposed white side, colored chipboard to match the overall color of the token (again, to match the color of the token) and, lastly, metallic inks in bronze, silver and gold colors.

These would be for a niche market, in the beginning. But, I believe eventually it would easily outsell the metal coins.

And that's my two cents (ahem, pun intended).
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I love the feel of the coins in Cyclades. They have a good heft, and the irregular circle shape makes them feel more "real".

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berserkley wrote:
I love the Arkham Horror dollar bill tokens:
Visually appealing, and nice and thick!


They are nice. I like their thickness, too. I just wish they were a bit larger.

Otoh, I spend too much time trying to stack the "bills" neatly, and making sure that the numbers are oriented the same way. It's distracting.

Wide-ish tokens would make them easily stackable, and round tokens would make orienting them perfectly a non-issue.

Ok, so how about a money set: a few sheets of rectangular bills, and a few sheets of round coins? VP tokens can be some other shape.
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I think this is a great idea. I have looked around at buying some from game part companies, but they usually only have the most common ones, like doubloons. would love to see some different themes, like old US coins, something Asian. My concern is that you would need to have a lot of different ones available, but more access would be great.
I would want at least 1, 3, 5, 10. That seems to cover the most common denominations used in games, and that's what I usually design my games around.
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Well they are not cardboard but I'm running a Kickstarter for metal coins. Looks like we funded in 4 hours due to our connection with our previous Kickstarter. But this might be an indication of desire for these types of accessories.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/miniongames/futuristic-m...
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Would you make them different sizes as well as denominations?
I kind of like the larger 3 coins in say 7 wonders.
 
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The Kickstarter I'm doing now is for metal coins at 25 cents or less.

We'll do some cardboard ones as we get time.

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The metal Futuristic Coins look awesome and I have already KickStarted for 280 coins.

If someone wants something with a more medieval or ancient look, the ones from Mused Fable (https://musedfable.com/) are very nice and cost 33 cents each. I have their Realm Coins, but they also have Pirate Coins coming soon. The various denominations of Mused Fable coins are all the same size and are metal.

Back to the OP: There are files here on BGG made to print on sticker paper and put on real coins. There are several different designs, and all look very nice. These could be stickered to heavy card. The difficulty is punching out heavy card by hand, so I think licensing these designs, printing and diecutting on cardboard would make great coin tokens for those who don't like metal or want a lower price. It seems like the same die could be used for each of the designs. Even with the various metal coins I have (including some GameMastery Campaign Coins - quite expensive), I would still buy some die-cut cardboard coins.
 
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