Cult of the Old - A 2004 and Earlier Math Trade
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For this Math Trade, we're going to take you back to the days when "deckbuilding" was something only CCG players did, "Kickstarter" was a part on a motorcyle, and the iPhone was nothing but a gleam in Steve Jobs' eye.

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Deadline-Wants: Sunday, May 20th, 2012, 1:30 PM EDT
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New traders should read all of the following rules. If you're experienced, you could probably get away with just reading the allowed items part, as I'm not breaking much new ground here, but note that you'll be expected to abide by the rules, so it's probably a good idea to read through anyway. (I've tried to put the variable stuff in red, if you're really averse to reading.)

Allowed items:
-Anything from BGG, RPGG or VGG with an item year that's 2004 or earlier. More recent printings of older games are allowed, as long as the entry associated with that printing is listed as 2004 or earlier. (For example, the 2011 printing of Confusion: Espionage and Deception in the Cold War is OK; Puerto Rico (with two expansions) is not.) This applies to both main items and sweeteners, with the exception that expansions for a game that came out in 2005 or later are OK as long as they are listed with the base game and the base game fits the criterion.
-Gift Certificates valued $10 or more (lower denominations can be listed as sweeteners). Unless specifically stated otherwise, GCs for "online game stores" will be interpretted as any etailer that stocks any kind of game, including Amazon, Steam, Target, etc.
-GeekGold with a minimum of 200 per entry (lower denominations can be listed as sweeteners).
-Anything else that's legal to ship (except cash), as long as it could be reasonably considered a pre-2004 item. For example, Blu-Rays of movies or TV series that have an IMDb year of 2004 or earlier are OK.

Shipping:
All are welcome to participate. You can cover any amount of shipping you like, as long as it's not a prohibited policy (see OLWLG rules for details). If you're not covering full shipping within your own country, you must provide a postal code and the approximate weight of the item in the listing so that costs may be estimated. Any ambiguity will be interpreted as generosity on your part; if you don't include a shipping policy, then it is assumed that you will ship anywhere in the world for free!

Listing Guidelines:
To list an item, add an item to the trade GeekList. Each listing must contain at minimum the edition (i.e., publisher and version, if more than one), language and condition of all items. "Edition pictured" is NOT an acceptable description, as it is unclear in the OLWLG (and it's faster to type most publishers than it is to type "edition pictured" anyway). You are encouraged to use the BGG Marketplace condition scale and to detail any blemishes for anything worse than "like new". If it is a PnP game, please include details about materials used.

If you'd like to add anything that does not have an XGG entry or otherwise use an alternate name, use a board game entry and select Outside the Scope of BGG (id=23953). In the description for your item, include a title, formatted like this: +altname+Pick 2 of 5 Games!-altname- You MUST use this if your main item is a portion of an item with its own listing; for example, if you've got just the Scout part of Carcassonne: King & Scout as the Geeklist item, list it under Outside the Scope, not the K&S entry. (Please read this last part in the spirit of the rule; I hope it's clear that I'm not talking about CCGs or 3M games that are missing a single piece.)

To add sweeteners to an item, use the Insert Geek Link dropdown. Do NOT add links to any items unless you're including them as a sweetener.

If you are listing 2 identical copies of any item (this will mostly come up for GCs and GG), you MUST use the Copies functionality of the OLWLG by putting the number of copies in your description as follows, replacing x with the number of copies you have:

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(I know people generally make this optional, but given the recent disdain over the percentage of items that are GCs in terms of reading through the list, I want to try and trim the number of items where I can.)

For any item that is not new in shrink, you must inventory it, and you will be responsible for any missing pieces not clearly identified in the item description.

You may not edit an item in any way that would be construed as a downgrade (worse condition, removing a sweetener, etc.) EXCEPT to add a shipping policy if one was originally omitted. Should you need to downgrade a listing, re-list the item, then change the old listing to an Outside the Scope entry that references the new item number. DO NOT SIMPLY DELETE THE OLD LISTING; some people make notes about the GeekList and get confused when items are deleted.

You are required to subscribe to each of your items in the trade in case anyone has any questions about them.

Miscellany:
GC and GG arbitrage is not allowed. Arbitrage is defined as trading a GC or GG for a larger GC or more GG. GC for GG trades are allowed, and vice versa. You are also allowed to trade GCs for other GCs of equal or lesser value.

I reserve the right to remove any entries at my discretion. This will likely only happen if a bad trader is reported, and even then, I will work with the parties involved on a case-by-case basis and may still allow them to participate if I'm satisfied that reperations have been made and that the previous incident is not likely to repeat itself.


Only mistakes made by me in my capacity as moderator will invalidate the results. If anyone (myself included) checks the wrong box in Step 4, that's very unfortunate, but the trade must go on. This is my first time moderating, and while I obviously don't plan on making mistakes, your patience is appreciated if some mistake on my part, say, delays something in the OLWLG.

This may go without saying, but use of the OLWLG is required. If you want to give anyone GeekGold, please tip
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They made this possible. All I did was get impatient waiting for the next trade.

Questions? See the discussion thread. Have fun!
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1. Board Game: Heroscape Master Set: Rise of the Valkyrie [Average Rating:7.43 Overall Rank:295] [Average Rating:7.43 Unranked]
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The OOP and getting tough to find base set for one of the highest ranked games eligible for this trade!

Hasbro English Second Edition. No box, but otherwise complete. One of the water tiles had a small area break off due to an overzealous 9 year old, but it's probably repairable with a little glue (and even if not, the part that snapped is very thin, so it might not even be noticable in a setup).

Free U.S. shipping, first $10 elsewhere (this will be a big/heavy box with lots of plastic, though).
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2. Board Game: Netrunner [Average Rating:7.45 Overall Rank:673]
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Perhaps the most critically acclaimed CCG of all time, from the designer of Magic and King of Tokyo!

WotC English first edition double starter deck. This is everything you need to play the game, and some have speculated that part of what killed the game was that playing with the starter was as much or even more fun than deckbuilding! I can provide decklists if requested.

Free U.S. shipping, first $6 elsewhere.
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3. Board Game: Outside the Scope of BGG [Average Rating:6.71 Overall Rank:2926]
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This item is for 3 (yes, three!) of the following games:

d10-1Basketball Strategy From the designer of ASL! Avalon Hill English blue box edition. Box has minor shelf wear, but looks above-average for a game this age. The original owner used the scorecard sample in the rulebook to keep score rather than one of the sheets, and despite the pieces being mostly unpunched, managed to lose a couple of them (one white player counter and one blue chip). It's still playable without these, though to balance the basic game teams you'd need to make a chit for the missing player.
d10-2Dancing Dice I haven't played, but it seems to be a high player count filler that's a hit with non-gamers! Mayfair English edition, new in shrink.
d10-3Careers A family classic! 1979 Parker Brothers edition. Box has some tape and a slightly dented corner but is otherwise in very good condition and extremely structurally sound. This doesn't have a component list, so I can't 100% guarantee it's complete, but I have played it recently and if anything was missing, it wasn't obvious (many score sheets remain as well). If anyone has a component list for this edition, I'll be happy to re-inventory.
d10-41313 Dead End Drive English (only?) edition. Well-loved by the previous owner. The box is sturdy, but has moderate wear and some caving on the top. The pawn stands are mismatched and one short. The cards have visible wear, and one has a tear on the back. The original black dice (regular d6s) are gone, with one white die in the box (I can supply a second d6 if requested). If there was ever an insert or any kind of organizational system, it's gone now. However, the 3D bits of the gameboard appear to be in good working order (I haven't played it, but it looks like everything is there and all the moving bits seem to move as they should), so while it's certainly not for collectors, I'd imagine it's playable with the target audience.
d10-5Mummy Rummy Worth a look for the alliteration alone! Gamewright edition. Excellent condition; very slight box wear (almost not worth mentioning).
d10-6Yahtzee Yes, I know, it's not "cool" any more, but it's actually not a bad push-your-luck game, and you can play it with anybody, so that's something. 2004 Parker Brothers/Hasbro edition. Very good condition with minor box wear.

Free U.S. shipping, first $10 elsewhere (but this may be a big box depending on the games selected).

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4. Video Game: Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II [Average Rating:7.63 Overall Rank:313]
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How about a huge classic video game lot? Take any or all of these, depending on what platforms you have available.

First, the PC CD-ROM games. All of these were purchased in the US and are in English. All are rather old and disc only. They work on my Win XP machine, but I make no guarantees about getting them to run on newer systems.

Games:
-Jedi Knight
-Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith
-Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2 (Allied disc only, but does include jewel case)
-Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun (GDI disc only)
-Sega Smash Pack 2 (contains Comix Zone, Flicky, Kid Chameleon, Shining Force, Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (16-bit), Super Hang-On, Sega Swirl and Vectorman 2)
-Road Rash (1994/32-bit systems)
-NBA Live 98
-NBA Live 99
-Ultimate Yahtzee
-Monopoly: Star Wars Edition

Then, the console stuff:
-Wrath Unleashed A turn-based game with real-time battles with a fantasy theme from LucasArts. NTSC Xbox edition, compatible with Xbox 360. Complete.

-Grand Theft Auto III Still the best in the series, in my opinion. US PS2 edition, complete.

-Mortal Kombat (1992) US Genesis edition. Includes box.

-World Series Baseball '95 US Genesis edition, cart only.

Free U.S. shipping, first $6 elsewhere.
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5. Board Game: Goldbräu [Average Rating:6.42 Overall Rank:2462]
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Game Condition:

New.

Box Condition:

New in shrink.

Version/Language Info:

Rio Grande Games/English.

Shipping Policy:

Free to the U.S. and the first $10 elsewhere.
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6. Board Game: Vom Kap bis Kairo [Average Rating:6.31 Overall Rank:3208]
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Game Condition:

Excellent. Looks to have been very lightly played.

Box Condition:

Minor shelf wear.

Version/Language Info:

Adlung-Spiele / English, French and German.

Shipping Policy:

Free to the U.S. and the first $8 elsewhere.
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7. Board Game: Wongar [Average Rating:6.32 Overall Rank:4495]
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Used but very good condition. There is one blemish on the bottom of the box cover, about the size of a quarter - otherwise it's excellent and sound.

German (the only language it was published in) with a printout of English rules. Components are language independent.

I'll pay for shipping in the USA. I'll pay the first $10 to ship elsewhere (balance to be paid with amazon.com gift certificate), but be warned this is a large heavy game and so you should be somewhat desperate to do this.
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8. Board Game: Discovery [Average Rating:5.94 Overall Rank:9495]
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LANGUAGE: French (with printed English rules from BGG files)

EDITION: Tactic ("Destination Tresor")

CONDITION: Good condition. Dry erase markers are not original ones.

SHIPPING: Free to contiguous United States only. No shipping elsewhere.
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9. Board Game: Nomad [Average Rating:6.06 Unranked]
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Very good condition. English language.

I'll pay for shipping in the USA. I won't ship this elsewhere UNLESS you are willing to receive the game without the unfortunately shaped box. (The board is actually a draw-string bag that holds all the pieces, anyway - you can see it in the picture.) In that case, and that case only, I'll pay the first $10 to ship it outside the USA, the balance to be paid with an amazon.com gift certificate.
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10. Board Game: Omnigon [Average Rating:5.84 Overall Rank:13241]
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LANGUAGE: English

EDITION: Game Tree

CONDITION: I've had this game forever... box is pretty beat up. Board is not in great shape. Probably needs some glue.

SHIPPING: Free to contiguous United States only. No shipping elsewhere.
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11. Board Game: Tongiaki: Journey into the Unknown [Average Rating:6.23 Overall Rank:2466]
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LANGUAGE: English

EDITION: Uberplay

CONDITION: Tiles are in excellent condition. Everything else is in good condition. One purple ship and the original instructions are missing. (I've included a color scan/photocopy of the rules.)

The missing purple ship may rarely be needed. (This game has 6 sets of player pieces, so only in a 6-player game would that missing 15th purple ship possibly be an issue.)

There's also an orange ship which was mismanufactured and has a stubby nose.

SHIPPING: Free to contiguous United States only. No shipping elsewhere.
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12. Board Game: Bodyguard Overlord [Average Rating:6.68 Overall Rank:11077]
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Game Condition:

The components are in excellent shape. One token (out of three hundred) is missing, unless I miscounted. It's possible that it's blank, as these games often came with a blank or two as spares and there are no blank tokens that I can see. Unfortunately there's no counter breakdown to confirm this, just an overall total.

Box Condition:

Good. No tears or major dings but there's a small corner compression in the top of the lid where something once sat on the box and other minor scrapes and shelfwear.

Version/Language Info:

Spearhead Games/English.

Shipping Policy:

Free to the U.S. and the first $10 elsewhere.
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13. Board Game: G.I. Anvil of Victory [Average Rating:6.98 Unranked] [Average Rating:6.98 Unranked]
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Game Condition:

Complete and unpunched.

Box Condition:

Good. One split corner and some other very minor dings and wear.

Version / Language Info:

Avalon Hill (First Edition I think) / English

Shipping Policy:

Free to North America and the first $10 elsewhere.
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14. Board Game: Winner's Circle [Average Rating:6.98 Overall Rank:724]
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Game Condition:

Excellent.

Box Condition:

Minor shelf wear.

Version / Language Info:

Alea "Royal Turf" / German - yes, the collectible one that people seem to want. It's just not getting played here...

Shipping Policy:

Free to the U.S. and the first $10 elsewhere.
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15. Board Game: Struggle of Empires [Average Rating:7.49 Overall Rank:397]
Brian Morris
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Condition: Opened but unpunched.

Edition: This is the Eagles Games second edition printed in 2005

Shipping: Will ship to the US only.
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16. Board Game: Panzer Grenadier: Afrika Korps [Average Rating:6.31 Overall Rank:6530]
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Condition: Opened but unpunched.

Shipping: Will ship to the US only.
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17. Board Game: Age of Steam Expansion #2: Western United States and Germany [Average Rating:7.83 Unranked] [Average Rating:7.83 Unranked]
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Game Condition:

New. This was one of 60 copies released at Essen in 2011 (numbered #38 of 60), although originally this expansion was published in 2003. If that disqualifies this item in the eyes of the moderator, I will withdraw it.

Box Condition:

New (clamshell case). There's a little crease at one corner where I opened it to see what it looked like.

Version / Language Info:

Winsome Games (Essen 2011 limited and numbered reprint) / English

The image I have chosen for this entry shows how the map looks.

Shipping Policy:

Free to North America and the first $10 elsewhere.
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18. Board Game: Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde [Average Rating:6.77 Overall Rank:3219]
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Bambus Edition
Very Good condition.

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19. Board Game: Max [Average Rating:6.55 Overall Rank:4142]
Matt Crawford
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English Family Pastimes Edition
Very Good condition
Free shipping to U.S., first $10 anywhere else.
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20. Board Game: Magical Athlete [Average Rating:6.48 Overall Rank:2638]
Jack K
United States
Shorewood
Wisconsin
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Game Condition:

Like new - played once.

Box Condition:

Excellent.

Version / Language Info:

Z-Man Games / English

Shipping Policy:

Free to the U.S. and the first $8 elsewhere.
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21. Board Game: Turn the Tide [Average Rating:6.80 Overall Rank:1038]
Matt Crawford
United States
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Gamewright English Edition
Very Good condition.
Free shipping to U.S., first $5 anywhere else.
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22. Board Game: World War II: Barbarossa to Berlin [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1374]
Matt Crawford
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Excellent condition; punched & set up once.
2002 First Edition, but ALSO includes 2006 Edition Card Set.
Free shipping to U.S., first $10 anywhere else.
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23. Board Game: Puerto Rico [Average Rating:8.03 Overall Rank:22]
Jeremy Coe
United States
Spanish Fork
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Edition: Rio Grande Games English edition.

Condition: This copy is New in Shrink. No noticeable shelf wear.

Shipping: I will ship for free anywhere within the US and cover the first $10 anywhere else.
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24. Board Game: Knightmare Chess [Average Rating:6.43 Unranked] [Average Rating:6.43 Unranked]
Justin Berman
United States
White River Junction
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English. Excellent condition. Played only once.

Steve Jackson Game edition.

Free USA domestic shipping.
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25. Board Game: Knightmare Chess 2 [Average Rating:6.73 Unranked] [Average Rating:6.73 Unranked]
Justin Berman
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White River Junction
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English. Excellent condition but the box is bowing slightly. Never Played.

Steve Jackson Game edition.

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