Nestorgames: production pain
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This list is aimed to compile all production issues that makes a nestorgame 'complex' to manufacture.

This might help future nestorbooster users estimate if their game is nestorboosterable. The harder the pain, the more the copies needed to be purchased and the higher the price.

This is not related to the quality of the game. Just a matter of production.

This is the sister list of Nestorgames: production pleasure.

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1. Board Game: The Mystique Deck [Average Rating:7.51 Unranked]
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Cards.

Probably the most painful of all:

- I have to manufature several sets (big investment).
- I might not sell them all or sell them too slowly.
- I might sell them all plus one, so I have to order a bunch of them just for that last copy. So that last copy is as expensive to produce as all the previous ones combined.

Veredict: AVOID.
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2. Board Game: Glaisher [Average Rating:7.25 Unranked]
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Double-pad board.

I have to manually cut both pads with a shears. It also increases the price due to the additional pad and its weight.

Veredict: higher price.
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3. Board Game: Questor [Average Rating:7.02 Unranked]
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Components from several providers/sources.

Running out of just one of the components delays the delivery time, so I have to stock all of them in advance. Plus delays of delivery from any of the providers also delays the manufacturing.

Veredict: Higher price and more copies.
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4. Board Game: Way of the Dragon [Average Rating:5.79 Overall Rank:9583]
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Custom dice.

Just as painful as cards. Same problems.

Veredict: AVOID.
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5. Board Game: Tomoe [Average Rating:5.67 Unranked]
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Template and sticker alignement.

Several printing and cutting tests have to be made during the production design phase when using stickers on acrylic (they're glued onto the acrylic sheet and then cut). This doesn't make it expensive, as once the template is ok there are no further problems, but the design time translates into more copies to be purchased.

Veredict: More copies or use engraving if possible.
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6. Board Game: City Blocks [Average Rating:5.41 Overall Rank:12113]
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Art.

When publishing a game other than a pure-minimalistic-abstract game, hiring an artist is sometimes mandatory. This can either increase the game price (if the artist royalties depend on copies sold) or the initial number of copies to be purchased (if the artist demands a one time payment).

Veredict: price increase or more copies.
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7. Board Game: Shibumi [Average Rating:7.90 Overall Rank:5834]
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New formats.

(Shibumi is shown as an example but it was not nestorboostered).

New formats imply more production design time and usually lead to unexpected problems.

Varedict: Avoid or more copies and price increase.
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8. Board Game: Siege Master [Average Rating:7.44 Unranked]
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Too many components for a single case.

(Siege Master is shown as an example but it was not nestorboostered).

If too many components are included, then usually two cases are needed. This increases the price (due to the additional case and its weight) and also draws some customers back (having a game in two separated containers is a bit awkward).

Veredict: price increase.
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9. Board Game: Essentia [Average Rating:7.71 Unranked]
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High precision cut cardboard tiles.

(Essentia is shown as an example but it was not nestorboostered).

When using small tiles, or tiles that must match when placed together, I have to pay an extra money for accuracy-cutting.

Veredict: price increase.
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10. Board Game: Mentis [Average Rating:7.92 Unranked]
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Engraved and painted tiles.

Painting increases the price of the pieces and, similarly to dice but on a lower scale, forces me to print large sheets at once.

Veredict: price increase and more copies.
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11. Board Game: Morelli [Average Rating:7.41 Overall Rank:6810]
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Large rulebooks.

They increase the price of the game (as they're included inside the case) due to printing, weight and initial editing. They also seem to scare customers, as they prefer shorter manuals (1-2 pages).

On average, the simpler the rules (and shorter the manual) the higher the sales.

Veredict: reduce the word count.
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12. Board Game: Questor Expansion [Average Rating:7.78 Unranked] [Average Rating:7.78 Unranked]
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Triple layer acrylic meeples.

Only an issue if just a few of them are used (such as only one of each colour), as I have to cut an entire sheet for each colour (so I have the same problems as in custom dice and cards). But if lots of them are cut, then it's ok.

Veredict: avoid using many colours and a few pieces of each colour if possible. Price increase and more copies.
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13. Board Game: Unpublished Prototype [Average Rating:7.01 Overall Rank:2029]
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Unfinished designs.

If you submit a game to nestorbooster please keep in mind that it will be published and many players will have access to it immediatelly. If you change rules afterwards (even if that improves/fixes the game), it will confuse players as there will be different versions around. So please make sure the game is completely finished before submitting it.

Note that this can happen to anyone. A clear example is my own game TRITT. Even having intensively tested it, it was solved shortly after its publication, and I had to remove it from catalog until I found a solution to it.

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