Wargames - FRESH Fair Trade it Forward
This list is an alternative Fair Trade it Forward for Wargamers who want to trade newer (aka FRESH) and higher value games. What does this mean? There are two important rules that apply to this list, unlike the other Fair Trade (or Pay it Forward) lists out there:
To be eligible for this list, the game (the version/edition being offered) must have been published in 2010 or later.
How do we determine a game's year of publication? We will use BGG's database. Any questions, contact the moderator.
To be eligible for this list, the game must have an approximate minimum value of $30.
How do we determine a game's value? Several factors. First I look at a game's Price History on BGG. Second, look at the condition of the offered game and compared to that price history. Condition, is it in shrink? If it's opened, is it punched? If it's punched, is it played? You get the idea. If there is little or no Price History data, I expand my search to include Online Gaming Stores, Amazon, eBay, etc.
When in doubt, the moderator will decide if a game is appropriate for this list.
How It Works
The last item on the list is always the item currently available for offer. A person may claim the item by offering another eligible item. When that item is claimed by another person, they are sent the item they claimed. See the OG Wargamers Fair Trade it Forward or Solitaire Fair Trade it Forward for examples of how this type of list works.
To Claim An Item
1) Calling "dibs" on an item is not a valid claim. The only way to make a claim on an item is to post the next item on the geeklist. State which item you're claiming (if there is a choice) from the previous geeklist item and then the details of the item you're offering. If the game you're offering is opened, be sure to check for missing components (counters, maps, player aids, dice) and note accordingly.
2) Make sure to include the CONDITION and EDITION of your offer. If counters are clipped or any physical modification has been done to the game, you need to post pictures of the components as well. Finish up with shipping information.
Again, see the OG Wargamers Fair Trade it Forward or Solitaire Fair Trade it Forward for examples of how this works.
Only one claim can be made against a geeklist item. The first one to post a valid claim (i.e. post a new item, not just dibs) is the claimant.
To Receive An Item
In order to receive the item you claimed, a claim must be made on your offered item. Once a claim is made, the person who offered the item you claimed should contact you and arrange shipping.
All times stated by the moderator are in the Central US Time Zone. Time windows are relative to the timestamp on the geeklist entry which is adjusted for your timezone by BGG (if set to do so).
How Long is My Claim Valid For?
72 hours. In the unlikely event that nobody claims your game within 72 hours of your INITIAL posting (post timestamp), your claim is void and anyone else can post a new claim. They do not have to wait for your post to be deleted, they only need to wait 72 hours. However, you may delete your post if it is after 72 hours. Do NOT delete your post before 72 hours without clearing it with a moderator first. Since the game you claimed won’t be shipped to you until you find a claimant, you have incentive to find one. We will use the time stamp of the initial posting and the new claim to determine the 72 hour period. The 72 is NOT extended by revising your claim. For holidays, I reserve the right the extend the 72 hours by public announcement.
Important Note: Once an offer is claimed, the list no longer rolls back past that claimed offer. Example: Bob offers a game, John claims it and offers up a new game. Once that happens, even if John's game expires, the list will only ever roll back to Bob's game. It will never roll back farther. Continuing this example, say Steve then claims John's game. Now even if Steve's game expires, the list will only roll back as far as John's game. See previous entries on this list or the OG Wargamers Fair Trade it Forward list for examples of how this works. You can see if an offer is not going to expire (due to having been claimed once) by reading the comments under that item. The moderator will post a comment under that item, if a claim expires and the list rolls back once.
What Can Be Offered
1) It has to be a wargame
2) It (the game/edition being offered) has to have been published no earlier than 2006.
3) The approximate value of any game offered must be at least $30. Base game + Expansion(s) is allowed. Bundling of non-related cheaper games to reach a total value $30 is not. Sweeteners may be added to an existing offer. Sweeteners do not need to meet list requirements.
Example: Someone offers a brand new game that is valued well over $30. After a day no one has claimed it, so they offer up a magazine game as a sweetener (labeled as sweetener or even just saying "and"). Or they offer up a book. Etc. As long as each primary offer meets the list requirements.
If you have any questions about if a game or offer qualifies, geekmail the moderator.
Questions concerning an item's condition, edition, shipping or any other details should be asked in the comments of the item in question. The offering person should have already described the condition and shipping info in their post.
The person offering the item is expected to cover the shipping of the item to the person receiving it. However, there are the following exceptions:
You may specify shipping to/within United States only.
You may specify a cap on shipping to another country (i.e. you pay first $15 to ship international).
You may NOT specify shipping restrictions on a subsection of a country (i.e. you cannot ship free to CONUS and charge for Alaska or Hawaii or APO/FPO).
APO/FPO are considered part of the USA for shipping.
Shipping should occur as close to your offered item being released as possible. If there are extenuating circumstances to prevent rapid shipping, please notify the recipient AND/OR moderator as soon as possible.
If you are interested in an item with shipping restrictions, you must work out (either in comments or private message) with the lister any shipping expenses BEFORE you make a claim on the item.
All efforts are and will be made to be clear with rules and expectations, and not change anything too drastically. However this list is brand new! There may be growing pains.
Possible future issues:
-Year of publication. As of list creation, it is 2006. I could see the year changing (likely towards more recent).
-Minimum game values. As of list creation, it is a minimum of $30. I could see this value being raised in the future. (Note: On 11/13/2020, the minimum value requirement was dropped from $40 to $30)
-Determining a game's value. Frankly, this will likely remain an issue for the life of this list. But we will do our best.
-Folio and magazine games. I have not explicitly banned them, and I'm hoping that 99% of the games offered will be boxed games, and we won't see many (or any) folio or magazine games as they should fall below the $30 minimum. If this becomes an issue, we will deal with it. I could see banning magazine games, but still allowing folio games, as some of them can be worth more than $30.
The spirit of this list is to trade newer and higher value games. Let's try and keep that spirit in mind when claiming, offering, and discussing.
Any questions, complaints, issues. Geekmail the moderator or post in the regular comments section. Public discussion is good.
Other Wargame Fair Trade or Pay it Forward Lists
Wargamers - Fair Trade it Forward
Pay It Forward For Wargamers Mk 2!
Wargamers Light Pay It Forward
Wargamers Paying it Forward(Retired) Block Wargames Fair Trade it Forward(Retired)
Other Non-Wargame Fair Trade or Pay it Forward Lists
Solo Games - Fair VALUE Trade it Forward
Solitaire Games - Fair Trade it Forward Part 2
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