Summer 2020 Romanian Math Trade
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Salutare si bine te-am regasit la inca un Math Trade romanesc!
(editia cu numarul 23)


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Detalii despre GeekGold tips la finalul sectiunii.


Informatii generale despre Math Trades:

Walkthrough & FAQ: Sanse mari sa gasesti aici toate informatiile

Maths Trades: Math_Trades
Math Trades video tutorial: Math Trade video tutorial
OLWLG (Online Want List Generator) FAQ: OLWLG
OLWLG Guides: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/30011
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/32005 (Duplicate protection)
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/159648


Informatii particulare despre acest Math Trade:

Fii politicos, arata respect participantilor si citeste cu atentie toate informatiile.
Oamenii si experienta lor cu acest trade sunt mai importante decat procesul in sine cu regulile lui.
Dar regulile trebuie respectate.

Math Trade este un proces neintuitiv, care necesita multi pasi executati manual si implica un numar mare de persoane.
De aceea, in situatii "delicate" ce tin de exceptii sau nerespectarea regulilor si a termenelor, decizia moderatorului e finala si va fi comunicata celor implicati.
Incalcarea flagranta si/sau repetata a regulilor va fi urmata de un avertisment.
Doua avertismente echivaleaza cu interzicerea participarii la Math Trades in viitor.

Daca nu esti de acord cu lucrurile enumerate aici, te rog sa nu participi.


Thread de discutii pe ForumBoardGames.ro: https://forumboardgames.ro/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=10210

Data limita pentru adaugarea de jocuri in lista: Marti 26 Mai 2020, 19:00 GMT (22:00 ora locala).

Data limita pentru trimiterea de wantlists in OLWLG: Miercuri 3 Iunie 2020, 19:00 GMT (22:00 ora locala).

Termenele specificate nu se modifica decat in cazul in care moderatorul are probleme personale.

Software folosit pentru generarea lanturilor de schimburi: TradeMaximizer versiunea 1.4 cu Duplicate Protection.
In mod normal se selecteaza optiunile: LINEAR-PRIORITIES ALLOW-DUMMIES REQUIRE-COLONS REQUIRE-USERNAMES HIDE-NONTRADES SHOW-ELAPSED-TIME.


Reguli si recomandari

1. Cei care nu au mai participat la Math Trades au doua optiuni:
a. Daca au vechime pe forum (moderatorul decide) sau sunt recomandati de un user cu vechime, nu exista cerinte speciale. Dar cel care face recomandarea isi asuma responsabilitatea pentru persoana recomandata.
b. Altfel, sunt obligati sa trimita jocurile/banii inaintea celorlalti participanti la schimb.


2. Cel care adauga jocurile in lista (expeditorul) suporta toate costurile de expediere.
Daca nu doreste, acest lucru trebuie specificat clar in cadrul ofertei - vezi punctul 10. In cazul in care se trimite prin Posta Romana, asigurarea este obligatorie (shit happens often).
Important: Aceste lucruri se aplica jocurilor trimise pe teritoriul Romaniei. Daca cineva din afara tarii doreste sa participe la acest Math Trade, trebuie sa fie pregatit sa accepte costurile primirii jocului. Cu alte cuvinte, expeditorul nu este obligat in nici un fel sa suporte costurile trimiterii pachetului in afara Romaniei.

Dupa confirmarea rezultatelor, jocurile trebuie trimise in maxim 3 saptamani.
Se accepta situatii exceptionale si termene mai lungi doar daca au fost agreate de partile implicate.
Se recomanda folosirea BGG Trade Manager pentru a face schimburile; in acest fel poti lasa si primi feedback si ai o reputatie de trader mai buna pentru viitoarele schimburi.

Jocurile trebuie sa ajunga la destinatar in conditia in care au fost prezentate in acest Math Trade.
Acest lucru implica o ambalare corespunzatoare care sa fereasca jocul de deteriorare in urma transportului.
Foloseste cu incredere folie cu bule, "pufuleti", cocoloase de hartie sau alte materiale care absorb socurile.


3. Este obligatoriu ca fiecare joc listat sa contina:
- starea jocului conform https://www.boardgamegeek.com/wiki/page/Condition_of_a_game;
- editia;
- limba si nivelul de dependenta lingvistica (pe pagina de pe BGG a jocului se poate vedea nivelul de dependenta);
- modalitatea de expediere sau predare.

Foloseste-te de sectiunea VERSIONS pentru a pune link catre imaginea corespunzatoare versiunii atunci cand aceasta difera de cea default propusa de BGG.


4. Pentru fiecare Sweetener (supliment menit sa "indulceasca" o oferta, de exemplu extensii, carti promo, jocuri mici, etc.) enumerat, foloseste tag-ul GAMEID.
Exemplu: pentru Coloretto scrie: "Sweetener [ G A M E I D = 5782 ]" fara spatii intre [].
GAMEID se gaseste in partea dreapta a paginii jocului, imediat dupa descriere (sau in url).
Optional, adauga si imaginea in format mic: [ImageID=xxxxxx small]

Orice link din cadrul ofertei catre un joc BGG inseamna ca acel joc este parte din oferta.


5. Daca un joc adaugat la schimb nu mai e disponibil, ai trei optiuni:
a. Foloseste tag: +altname+ JOCUL NU MAI ESTE DISPONIBIL -altname- si schimba numele jocului in "Outside the Scope of BGG" (Game ID: 23953).
b. Sterge acel entry din geeklist. Acest lucru se poate face pana in momentul terminarii perioadei de adaugare a jocurilor in lista, ulterior geeklist devine locked si nu se mai poate edita - dar se pot adauga comentarii.
c. Da submit la un wantlist gol pentru acel joc (cu alte cuvinte, nu selectezi nici un alt joc la schimb).


6. Daca oferta este de genul "Alege X numar de jocuri" dintr-o lista mai lunga de titluri, foloseste "Outside the Scope of BGG" (Game ID: 23953), "Miscellaneous Game Accessory" (Game ID: 5985) sau "Miscellaneous Game Merchandise" (Game ID: 22104) cu tag in descriere: +altname+ Alege X jocuri din urmatoarele -altname-.


7. Ofertele care nu tin de jocuri (GeekGold, bani, diverse obiecte legate sau nu de boardgames, etc) sunt binevenite.
Foloseste "Outside the Scope of BGG" (Game ID: 23953) si tag +altname+ "Descrierea produsului" -altname-
De exemplu: +altname+ 150 lei -altname-

In cazul ofertelor de bani, specifica modul cum se va opera tranzactia (transfer bancar, predare personala, PayPal, etc) si cine suporta comisioanele, daca acestea exista.

Orice schimb de jocuri pe bani in cadrul Math Trade este considerat vanzare prin BGG si supus achitarii comisionului specificat in Terms of Service de catre cel care primeste banii. Pentru mai multe detalii, citeste aici:
Cash Value Trades in Math Trades (and how to make a geek market listing for them)


8. Arbitrajul de bani/GeekGold este interzis. Cu alte cuvinte, incercarea de a schimba ai tai X lei/EUR/GG pentru o oferta de Y lei/EUR/GG a altcuiva este interzisa.
Sunt de asemenea interzise schimburile in care acelasi joc apare de ambele parti (de exemplu, cineva incearca sa schimbe un joc pentru acelasi joc plus extensie sau sweetener).


9. Inainte de a incepe sa bifezi jocuri in OLWLG este recomandat sa faci resync la colectia de jocuri pentru a beneficia de hints in culori pentru jocuri din wishlist, owned, previously owned, etc.
Pe pagina principala gasesti dupa "Welcome <username>" aceasta fraza, apasa butonul dintre paranteze [].

Your collection data (from BGG) was last resynced X day(s) ago. [resync BGG collection data now]


10. Pentru fiecare joc adaugat in geeklist este obligatoriu sa specifici CU MAJUSCULE SI BOLD:
- daca jocul este dependent de limba si limba nu este engleza sau romana;
- daca jocul are rupturi, indoituri, lovituri sau piese lipsa (defectele vizibile sunt valabile si pentru jocurile in tipla);
- daca lipsesc cutii ale extensiilor, chiar si oferite ca Sweetener;
- daca este vorba de o editie veche, iar pe piata se afla o editie mai noua;
- in cazul jocurilor GMT: daca plansa este de hartie sau mounted board;
- daca nu esti dispus sa platesti costurile de transport in Romania;
- daca, din orice motiv si sub orice forma, exista un lucru care deviaza de la regulile descrise aici.


11. Odata ce lanturile de schimb sunt generate, nu se mai pot face modificari. De aceea:

- verifica informatiile introduse pentru fiecare item din geeklist ce iti apartine - orice omisiune cade in sarcina celui care nu a furnizat informatia (de exemplu, daca oferi bani si exista un comision la transfer si nu se specifica cine il plateste, tu il vei plati);
- verifica de doua ori ce ai bifat in wantlist inainte sa dai Submit; valoarea jocurilor este irelevanta in cadrul schimburilor dar, daca ai ales sa schimbi Gloomhaven pe o carte promo, va trebui sa duci tranzactia la bun sfarsit;
- daca nu ai mai participat la Math Trades sau nu esti 100% sigur pe anumite lucruri, pune intrebari in thread-ul de discutii de pe forum, sunt multi oameni cu experienta dispusi sa ajute;
- pentru ca lanturile de schimb genereaza de cele mai multe ori tranzactii in care persoana care iti trimite un joc/bani nu este aceeasi cu persoana careia ii trimiti alt joc/bani, obligatia de a trimite jocul/banii exista indiferent de comportamentul celui care iti trimite tie;
- rezultatele finale ale schimbului nu vor fi rulate din nou daca cineva uita sa foloseasca duplicate protection - folosita atunci cand selectezi de la mai multi ofertanti acelasi joc, dar ai nevoie de o singura copie.
- fiecare participant este incurajat sa trimita un mesaj sau sa lase un comment daca descopera greseli, lipsuri sau neclaritati in descrierea jocurilor sau in respectarea regulilor descrise aici.


Have fun!


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Contributiile in GeekGold la acest Math Trade:

GG tips la acest geeklist sau direct pe OLWLG sunt o modalitate prin care ii putem multumi creatorului Jeff Michaud pentru munca pe care a depus-o. Tot ce se va aduna sub forma de tips aici va fi trimis lui Jeff si "rotunjit" de moderator in sus la primul multiplu de 100.

Cei care doresc sa sustina financiar OLWLG gasesc informatii pe pagina principala.

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40. Board Game: King of Tokyo [Average Rating:7.20 Overall Rank:300]
Board Game: King of Tokyo
Tsonko Tsonev
Bulgaria
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Name: King of Tokyo
Version/Language: English second edition with 3 awards (2012) - not the one on the picture, for some reason i cannot change it
Condition: Very Good
Sweetener: King of Tokyo: Power Up! (English, in it's own box)
Shipping: Free shipping to Romania (and I'll pay for the shipping of games I receive if they need to be shipped outside Romania. I will appreciate if we can arrange combine shipping).
 
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41. Board Game: Tail Feathers [Average Rating:7.15 Overall Rank:2818] [Average Rating:7.15 Unranked]
Board Game: Tail Feathers
Tsonko Tsonev
Bulgaria
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Name: Tail and Feathers
Version/Language: English
Condition: Excellent (cards are sealed)
Shipping: Free shipping to Romania (and I'll pay for the shipping of games I receive if they need to be shipped outside Romania. I will appreciate if we can arrange combine shipping).
 
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42. Board Game: Altiplano [Average Rating:7.55 Overall Rank:277]
Board Game: Altiplano
Tsonko Tsonev
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Name: Altiplano
Version/Language: German (language independent)
Condition: Very good
Sweetener: Altiplano: The Traveler (German, in shrink, language independent except reference sheet)
Shipping: Free shipping to Romania (and I'll pay for the shipping of games I receive if they need to be shipped outside Romania. I will appreciate if we can arrange combine shipping).
 
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43. Board Game: Puerto Rico (with two expansions) [Average Rating:8.48 Unranked] [Average Rating:8.48 Unranked]
Board Game: Puerto Rico (with two expansions)
Tsonko Tsonev
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Name: Puerto Rico German version with 2 included expansions
Version/Language: German (language dependent, can be played with reference sheets or paste-ups)
Condition: Very Good
Shipping: Free shipping to Romania (and I'll pay for the shipping of games I receive if they need to be shipped outside Romania. I will appreciate if we can arrange combine shipping).
 
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44. Board Game: Paranormal Detectives [Average Rating:7.29 Overall Rank:2525]
Board Game: Paranormal Detectives
Tsonko Tsonev
Bulgaria
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Name: Paranormal Detectives
Version/Language: English
Condition: Box has a dent, components are excellent
Shipping: Free shipping to Romania (and I'll pay for the shipping of games I receive if they need to be shipped outside Romania. I will appreciate if we can arrange combine shipping).
 
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45. Board Game: City of Gears [Average Rating:6.73 Overall Rank:3026]
Board Game: City of Gears
Tsonko Tsonev
Bulgaria
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Name: City of Gears: Kickstarter Deluxe founders edition
Version/Language: English, Deluxe founders edition
Condition: Box has some wear, components are very good
Sweetener: City of Gears: Juggernaut Mini Expansion
Shipping: Free shipping to Romania (and I'll pay for the shipping of games I receive if they need to be shipped outside Romania. I will appreciate if we can arrange combine shipping).
 
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46. Board Game: Realm of Sand [Average Rating:6.94 Overall Rank:3351]
Board Game: Realm of Sand
Tsonko Tsonev
Bulgaria
Sofia
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Name: Realm of Sand
Version/Language: English/Japanese
Condition: Box has a dent on the back, components are very good
Shipping: Free shipping to Romania (and I'll pay for the shipping of games I receive if they need to be shipped outside Romania. I will appreciate if we can arrange combine shipping).
 
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47. Board Game: Calimala [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1219]
Board Game: Calimala
Tsonko Tsonev
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Name: Calimala + Deluxe Kit
Version/Language: English
Condition: Very good
Includes:
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Shipping: Free shipping to Romania (and I'll pay for the shipping of games I receive if they need to be shipped outside Romania. I will appreciate if we can arrange combine shipping).

 
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48. Board Game: Greed [Average Rating:6.70 Overall Rank:1652]
Board Game: Greed
Tsonko Tsonev
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Name: Greed
Version/Language: English (Queen Games)
Condition: Very Good
Sweetener: Stowaway 52 (English, very good condition)
Shipping: Free shipping to Romania (and I'll pay for the shipping of games I receive if they need to be shipped outside Romania. I will appreciate if we can arrange combine shipping).
 
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49. Board Game: Targi [Average Rating:7.63 Overall Rank:131]
Board Game: Targi
Tsonko Tsonev
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Name: Targi
Version/Language: German (some language dependency, can be played with paste-ups)
Condition: Very good
Sweetener: Mint Condition (English, very good condition)
Shipping: Free shipping to Romania (and I'll pay for the shipping of games I receive if they need to be shipped outside Romania. I will appreciate if we can arrange combine shipping).
 
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50. Board Game: Castle Panic [Average Rating:6.66 Overall Rank:975]
Board Game: Castle Panic
Tsonko Tsonev
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Name: Castle Panic
Version/Language: English
Condition: Very good
Shipping: Free shipping to Romania (and I'll pay for the shipping of games I receive if they need to be shipped outside Romania. I will appreciate if we can arrange combine shipping).
 
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