Pasteboard & Plastic VIII
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This geeklist covers everything to do with the "Pasteboard and Plastic VIII" all-day gaming fest which was held on Saturday 7th March, 2009 at the Scout hut in Saltdean (Brighton, UK).

The parent list for this event is the Pasterboard and Plastic Metalist. You can reach information about all the P&P events from there.

Thanks to all the gamers who attended for making it such a successful day. Special thanks as always must go to Dick for organising another smooth running, intensely enjoyable Pasteboard & Plastic event.

All additions and comments are most welcome. These geeklists work best when the attendees take a few minutes to add games played or bought, pictures, comments and so on.

The remaining Pasteboard & Plastic events planned for '09 are...
PnP 9: Saturday July 11
PnP10: Saturday November 21
I hope to see you there!

The entry fees from all of the P&P events support the 42nd Brighton (Saltdean) Scouts.

Pasteboard & Plastic is itself attended by The Board Game Club. Thanks guys - it was good to see that (one of) you could hang around this time!
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1. Board Game: Santiago [Average Rating:7.12 Overall Rank:608]
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Our first game of the day. I arrived to find Dick explaining this game with Helen, Jim and Damon in atttendance, so I got a cup of tea in and joined in.

This is a really neat screw your neighbour type of auction game, but there is also an element of co-operation as your tile and worker placements go best when some of you are co-operating and some players have missed the boat - just like Carcassonne.

I was new to this and got battered. Dick won with 95, with Jim on 91.
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2. Board Game: Hammer of the Scots [Average Rating:7.56 Overall Rank:363]
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We hadn't even finished Santiago when we had to have a break for new game excitement when Pete from The BoardGameClub turned up.

This was the first game that I'd ordered from the BoardGameClub guys to deliver to P&P8. I have a few people lined up who I think will play this with me, including some work colleagues, so I figured that I could go the whole hog and buy my own copy, rather than just playing someone else's!

The good news is that I already had 2 games of this tentatively planned within a couple of hours of owning it. It's always good when that happens!
 
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3. Board Game: Giants [Average Rating:6.99 Overall Rank:1037]
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My second BGC purchase, this game looks absolutely fantastic and plays well too! It's a light game, but the look and feel of it mean that serious gamers can pick it up easily and it may well be one of those games that looks interesting enough and fun enough to snag new players.
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4. Board Game: Age of Conan: The Strategy Board Game [Average Rating:6.67 Overall Rank:1527]
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A new game for all of us, Gihan taught us how to play and Al, Ron and I were keen learners. We got through most of the situations and rules that you would encounter and then pretty much had to call it a day due to other pre-arranged commitments. We're now all primed to play the full game on a tuesday night, which was exactly what we wanted.
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5. Board Game: After the Flood [Average Rating:6.89 Overall Rank:1975]
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Plenty of buzz about this at the moment, on the Geek, on recent podcasts, Counter magazine, you name it. The good thing is that everyone is saying good things about it, which may come as no surprise as this is another quality release from Martin Wallace. This was my 3rd pre-order from The BoardGameClub. A couple of the army guys legs have come off in transit, but I should be able to get them replaced easily enough.

I am really looking forward to playing this as the 3 player aspect is intriguing. So Dick, who's our 3rd player and when do we want to play this?
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6. Board Game: Prophecy [Average Rating:6.68 Overall Rank:1680]
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Mike bought this one along and rounded us up for a game. It's Talisman without the dice and appears to have quite a bit of depth to it - we only played the basic game. Mike trounced us, getting his 5 cards with Ron on 3 and Gihan and I on 2. That flying carpet was pretty neat!

I'm not a huge fan of this sort of game, but as the genre goes, this was a decent enough job.
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7. Board Game: Dominion [Average Rating:7.64 Overall Rank:75] [Average Rating:7.64 Unranked]
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Out of print at the moment, but Pete had a copy hanging around and let me have it, which was pretty decent! I didn't actually play it on the day (sorry Helen) as I was on a somewhat tight schedule due to Mrs BFD's bithday!
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8. Board Game: Wasabi! [Average Rating:6.54 Overall Rank:1351]
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Whilst my Mrs was trying to work out if I was going to be the taxi service for the night, I figured I'd better get another game in. I'd not played Wasabi! before, but Miguel and Al had, so they quickly showed me what the game was about and we got stuck in.

The game nipped along quite nicely, I was making a fair lot of dishes, but I was not benefitting from the wasabi cubes like Miguel was and that was the difference in the end. Miguel and I both needed only a 4 and a 5 when the board had filled up, but Miguel ended on 27, I had 23 and Al had 22. Nice tight game!
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9. Board Game: Sorry! Sliders [Average Rating:6.41 Overall Rank:1709]
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This game's not been released in the UK as I understand it, but we had it and played it. I think that it was Mike's copy, as he's recently come back from the States.

This is a simple enough dexterity game which took about 15 minutes to set up and play. We were split on technique and were not sure if sliding or flicking was the best and there was a wide variety of quality evident in our attempts to get the sliders near the middle of the target zone. We played the version where if you get in the hole in the middle then that slider comes off, so that was an added twist.

Miguel's skill came out on top, with Al and I vanquished.
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10. Board Game: Heroscape Master Set: Rise of the Valkyrie [Average Rating:7.43 Overall Rank:297] [Average Rating:7.43 Unranked]
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For the first part of the day, I was with the younger gamers (Tom and George); And what better way to start than the plastic-y goodness that is Heroscape. The scout hut has plenty of tables and you're going to need them with this sprawling monster.

I lost at this one.

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11. Board Game: Galaxy Trucker [Average Rating:7.43 Overall Rank:160]
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Well - this one should put those youngsters in their place.

Tim and Heidi joined in for their first ever game of the Trucker; and I explained the rules as far as I could remember them (which probably wasn't quite far enough). All the expansion tiles had been mixed in as well - so that meant lots of pieces which I wasn't really sure what they did, but for those of you who've ever worked in interstellar spaceship design that's par for the course.

After the three trips into deep space, the George and Tom team won this with about 45 credits, with Heidi coming a close second. Tim came in a distant third with about 3 credits, and somehow I managed to get even less.

Still a fun time for all involved as far as I could make out.

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12. Board Game: Dream Factory [Average Rating:7.06 Overall Rank:652]
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After a couple of hours break - I was back in the evening for some grown-up games with grown-up people. Well, Miguel and Howard seem to fit that description - and so to my first ever game of this supposed classic, using the original German version (with real named actors).

The verdict was very good. I'd certainly play this one again - and a possible future re-theming was discussed with gusto.
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13. Board Game: Le Havre [Average Rating:7.89 Overall Rank:41]
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A good friend brought this back from Essen for me, and I have only managed four games of it, and those in the last three weeks.

I now understand why the rules warn against a five player game with new players, but what the heck, everyone there (at that time) were big boys and girls, and so we went ahead with it anyway :-)

Ok, I exaggerated for effect when I pointed out that a particularly slow (7th) round took 20 minutes, and there were 13 more to go - it actually took 16! However, my comment had the desired effect, the next round took three minutes, and from then on the game picked up.

However, I agree with the general opinion that this is a game NOT for five players. The geek 'number of players' poll indicates the sweet spot is 3, so I am now looking forward to a 3-P. I do not think that any of the others were put off by the experience, as it is easy to see that the game has plenty of potential.
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14. Board Game: Wildlife Safari [Average Rating:6.63 Overall Rank:1432]
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After Le Havre some of us wimps opted for an easy game, whilst Keith went on to play 'gric (good pimping Keith - I am looking forward to seeing the finished version!)
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15. Board Game: Master of Rules [Average Rating:5.91 Overall Rank:7058]
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This game has fascinated me, and was one of the four games that I bought on Saturday.

Our only game was fun and frustrating at the same time. Fun, because it is good to frustrate another player by playing a card to complete your rules, whilst screwing his/hers/theirs. Frustrating, though, when another player screws your rule whilst completing theirs...

Overall I thought it was a great little five-player and I hope to see a few more plays soon.

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16. Board Game: RoboRally [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:382]
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I have only played this game a couple of times, and yet again enjoyed it. This is on my 'mental' wish list - I would buy a copy if it was cheap - I already have far too many unplayed games.

I create a good early lead (I was lucky to be pointing in the correct direction when I was dealt 4 x 3 forwards) but as always, Jim managed to out think me and create a small but significant lead. Good win, Jim!

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17. Board Game: Werewolf [Average Rating:6.57 Overall Rank:1402]
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This has become a bit of a tradition at PnP. We had two games; 9 players in the first, and 17 in the second.

The second game was one of the very best we have had. The werewolves were close to winning, but suspicions were aroused! Werewolf Al realised this and sacrificed Werewolf Mike to throw the villagers off the scent. Villager Gihan spotted this, and sadly for the villagers, could not talk the rest of the mob into believing him. After stringing Gihan up, the villagers lost... Cries of Whooooo-oooo filled the room, even the dead Werewolf resurrected himself to join in the celebration!
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18. Board Game: To Court the King [Average Rating:6.47 Overall Rank:1551]
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This was one of the last games I played and I really enjoyed this dice-fest. The only thing that spoiled it for me was the small icons on the cards - I think the graphic designer was not aware that peoples eyesight get worse as they get older!

Another game on the mental wishlist!
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19. Board Game: Guillotine [Average Rating:6.53 Overall Rank:1096]
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The last game of the evening, played as a filler whilst the last table completed their game.

This game can be really nasty; at one point I was reduced to two cards by another player. Unfortunately that player did not know that one of my two cards enabled me to swap hands with any other player. Of course, when I played that card, it only left me one card in my hand to swap! Not that it did me any good - I still lost...

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20. Board Game: Tide of Iron [Average Rating:7.23 Overall Rank:688]
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Played a storming game of Tide of Iron with Ian, with me loosing by a whisker (in my humble opinion)Made me think that I should really make an effort to get this to the table more often. One more tank would have done it, that or another 20 ninjas ninja
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21. Board Game: Guess Who? [Average Rating:4.79 Overall Rank:17693]
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Well, who would have thought that the most laughs of the day would come from playing Guess Who!

Miguel had done another wonderful job converting a game into a sci fi bonanza, replacing the usual characters with a host of intergalactic stars from Darth Vadar to Johnnie 5. I won my games, though Miguel may call issue with my answer to his question "Does your character need a comb at all?" I mean, really, asking me about the necessity of brushing your hair, what were you thinking Miguel!?!
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22. Board Game: Leader 1 [Average Rating:7.00 Overall Rank:1931]
Miguel Sanhueza
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Dave had brought this to one of our Tuesday nights just after last years Essen and I thought it was a cracking game...I was very happy to be able to get in another play of it, along with Andy and Paul (from the Piddinghoe Gamers?) and Dave.

I'm not sure if my game had improved at all having played it once before, all long term planning tends to go out of the window when it comes round to your turn again for some reason...must keep up! Must keep up!

Dave won by a fairly comfortable stretch, a good two or three turns ahead of the rest of us. I'd very much like to play a series of these in a campaign type setting. I'm sure there's more accurate racing terminology than "campaign" but I'm as sporty as a bowl of thinly cut potato wedges.
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23. Board Game: Vino [Average Rating:6.46 Overall Rank:3170]
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As the evening drew on, Howard held up this box and Ron, Gihan and myself gathered round to play.

Despite a board that looked a bit like Gloria Mundi crossed with a card driven wargame, this was more fun than either...

Although you need to make as much money as you can, the aim is to own as many vineyards as possible... along the way, you specialise in different grape varieties, sell wine and try to influence the market price. If you're lucky, you get handed free vineyards by the government, but this isn't as great as it sounds, because in order to qualify for free vineyards, you have to be losing! Turn order and how it changes is very important in Vino. Sometimes, it helps to make less money one turn in order to gain the upper hand in the selling order onthe next turn...

I somehow ended up winning (after the cash tie-breaker) but I may need to share the gold medal with Ron who made a couple of shifts in the market that earned me some hefty profits...
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24. Board Game: Witch's Brew [Average Rating:7.04 Overall Rank:784]
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Bought this on the day after playing it before Christmas. It's a really nice almost trick taking almost resource gathering game.
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25. Board Game: Age of Steam Expansion: 1830's Pennsylvania / Northern California [Average Rating:7.84 Unranked] [Average Rating:7.84 Unranked]
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I really like AoS and this was a new map to me. Not easy at all! the cube distribution was a bit different from the norm and I barely managed to stay solvent
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