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Once upon a time, a Geek had an interesting idea:

Games Rule!

OK - so the idea was really that trading games in a math trade is much more desirable than trading other items. Sadly, the idea was lost in the mists of time until one day...

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- local wizard and the father of the Online Want-List Generator - waved his magic wand and made it possible!

This math trade will put this new metric to the test. Boiled down to the simplest level, the TradeMaximizer will (as ever) calculate the most trades that can be made using all available items, and the result will come from that set based upon a new system of weight where games are given more weight than non-game items (see the discussion here for more details).

There is nothing to be "afraid" of here. You will not need to do anything differently than you would in any other math trade. The OLWLG will automatically handle weighting of game and non-game items for you. We will still be able to use the USER-TRADING metric with this.

Request GeekList: http://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/48121
Discussion Thread: http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/460042

Use of the On-Line Want List Generator (OLWLG) is required for this event (please remember to tip JeffyJeff some GG for his support).

Please do not delete items or sweeteners once you have listed them. You can always submit a blank want list for an entry if you've traded it away before the deadline.

OK - some simple rules - please take a few minutes to read them:


d10-1 Gift certificates, Geekgold, DVDs etc are all permitted.

d10-2 Gift certificate and GG arbitrage are NOT allowed. Neither are cash offerings.

d10-3 Non-game entries must be added as "Outside the Scope of BGG" (game id 23953) or "Miscellaneous Game Accessory" (game id 5985) and must include the +altname+ brief description -altname- format in the description of your item.

If your entry is Geekgold, please use the work "Geekgold" or "gold" somewhere in the altname tag. Similarly if your offering is a gift certificate, please use the word "gift" in the tag. This will help with the weighting of the non-game items and allow us to better judge the success (or failure) of this new idea.

d10-4 You are expected to describe, as accurately as is reasonably possible, the condition (components and box), language and edition of your item in the description. This includes sweeteners if they are physical items (i.e. not GG).

For games not brand new (in shrink) you must inventory the game's components and list anything missing. Do not assume it's complete. Also, remember that just because something is "new in shrink" that doesn't mean that you shouldn't disclose any dings. It might not matter to you, but it matters to some people.

If the game and/or expansion you are listing is a "Print & Play" make that clear in the description (and I recommend you give specifics what it was printed on, mounted on, etc).

If you are listing an expansion if you reference the base game in the description be clear one way or the other if you are including the base game or not. Do not include a link to the base game unless you are including it as this looks, in the OLWLG, as if you are.

d10-5 To keep things simple (in light of past issues with recent math trades), you must be willing to cover FULL shipping within your own country. For most people that won't be an issue, as most uf us do that anyway but for everyone else, please take this into account when making your want lists. You are not required to ship outside of your own country but your shipping restrictions outside of your own country must be clearly stated and if you are not covering full shipping elsewhere, then you must state precisely how much of the shipping you will cover.

Minor change: U.S. participants must pay full shipping to the "lower 48", although I would encourage you to offer to pay at least partial shipping to HI and AK.

Overseas shipping note: You are not permitted to require a specific amount for shipping from the recipient and must cover at least the first $5 of shipping costs for items you send out. "Mirror shipping" is not allowed. Any ambiguity will be interpreted as generosity on your part. This means that if you don't include a shipping policy, then it is assumed that you will ship anywhere in the world for free!

d10-6 Sweeteners are to be listed using either the GAMEID formatting (prefered, example Hansa) or a link to the game's page (this will look like http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/8989). If you don't use this format your sweeteners won't show up in the OLWLG properly.

d10-7 If you've been reported to me as a bad trader, you cannot participate. If you try to, I will remove your entries.

d10-8 Please do NOT include links to other games in your entry unless you are actually including them as a sweetener, as this is displayed in a misleading manner by the OLWLG.

d10-9 If you feel the need to use them, please keep disclaimers short and to the point so they don't make things hard to read. If you need to use a longer disclaimer, please include a link to it in each of your entries instead of copying the whole thing into each entry - thanks.

d10-1d10-0 Finally - you are expected to periodically check during the item submission period, and preferably during the want list submission period, to see if anyone has commented on your entries. People often ask questions of items - most commonly because you have forgotten to state a version, language or shipping policy - and you should check in to address such questions in a timely manner should they arise, so that everyone then has the correct information available.

This is a very easy thing to do. Step 3 in the OLWLG will tell you at the top when you have items that people have commented on, and give a link to that comment. You will only need to go back to the trade GeekList to make adjustments or answer questions if there were any.


Other useful information


OLWLG Help: http://boardgamegeek.com/wiki/page/OLWLG

Software Used: TradeMaximizer 1.4 with duplicate protection. SEED=1234567, ITERATIONS=100, METRIC=USERS-TRADING (with weighted entries)

List Cap: None

Maximum Submissions Per User: Unlimited

Geekgold restrictions:

Users may not post more geekgold than they currently have. Geekgold arbitrage is not allowed.


Key dates (all times are CENTRAL TIME)

Open for posting games: Friday, November 6th (10am) until Thursday, November 12th (10am)

Want list submission period: Thursday, November 12th (10am) until Saturday, November 14th (10pm) - no extensions!

Results posted about an hour thereafter.

Please note that it's best to work on your want list and submit them early - you can always make changes and resubmit later. This will prevent you from being left out if you forget the deadline.

Also: Creating want lists is not the same as submitting them. To submit them you will need to click on the "Submit My Wants" button. If you're not sure how to find this, consult the documentation referenced above or ask in the discussion thread.


When you submit your want lists, you will receive a confirming GeekMail. If you don't get one, your want lists haven't been submitted. Your want lists in the GeekMail may be truncated - this is fine.

Want list submission

Submissions may be made at any time after the 12th at 10am, but only by the OLWLG. If you will be unavailable during the want list submission period but still wish to participate, contact me directly and we can discuss alternatives.

Note: only errors by the moderator will invalidate the results.

Also in the case that there is a problem after the results are posted, at most it will only invalidate the affected trade chain(s) and not the entire results set. In addition if the problem can be resolved by the most directly affected party or parties, then that is perfectly acceptable.
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Box has some very light shelf wear. Contents are in excellent condition.

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Lord of the Rings: Friends & Foes



Also in excellent condition. Stickers have been applied to the main board and the contents mingled with the base game. I still have the box and can send it upon request.

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Lord of the Rings: Sauron



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New in shrink and mint.

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New in shrink.

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Version shown (first edition, I believe). Lightly played and in excellent condition. One of the yellow cubes was missing when the previous owner received it, and has been replaced with a slightly larger cube (apparently from El Grande).

One thing that I should mention - the pieces are all present but some of them aren't the same colour as in the rules. The two pawns are blue and yellow instead of red and green. The money chips are white and yellow, and not yellow and red.

The box looks was a plain white box on which the manufacturer put stickers on all sides. One of those is peeling very, very slightly on one edge.

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New in shrink.

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Power Grid: The New Power Plant Cards - Cards in shrink. Price tag is still on the box.



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Shrink wrap removed, but the cards remain in shrink. This version includes the Dark Cities expansion. The box has a very tiny amount of colour worn off at a couple of edges.

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Excellent condition. Played just once.

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Excellent condition. I think I used it once but I might have never actually played this copy as a friend owns it.

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Box has some wear on the lid but the contents are like new (cards are still in shrink).

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Descartes (English) edition. Complete and in excellent condition.

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A pair of DVDs for your viewing pleasure. Going cheap!

Transylvania 6-500



Opened and watched once.

Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda: Season 4, Collection 5



Still in original shrinkwrap.

Free shipping to North America. First $10 elsewhere.

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"300" on Blu-Ray.

Recent big-budget film about the classic battle of Thermopylae in 480 BC. This battle is still taught in military tactics today - although they took a large slice of dramatic license at times.



Excellent condition.

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The Flash Gordon Collection - 5 DVD set



Five discs - includes:

FLASH GORDON CONQUERS THE UNIVERSE (12 episodes) - Buster Crabbe

FLASH GORDON: THE TV SERIES (10 episodes) - Steve Holland

MANHUNT IN SPACE (ROCKY JONES: SPACE RANGER)

Box has some very minor wear, discs are like new.

Per the rules, I will ship for free to the U.S. and will pay the first $10 to ship anywhere else.

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14. Board Game: Outside the Scope of BGG [Average Rating:6.72 Overall Rank:3085]
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Spaghetti Western DVD Fest

The Sergio Leone Anthology DVD set





Classic Clint Eastwood/James Coburn western collection.

The box has a couple of very, very minor dings and some of the discs are a little marked on the underside but I watched them all and they're working perfectly.

Per the rules, I will ship for free to the U.S. and pay the first $10 elsewhere.

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15. Board Game: Imperial [Average Rating:7.61 Overall Rank:176]
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Complete and in excellent condition.

Per the rules, I will ship for free to the U.S. and pay the first $10 elsewhere.
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16. Board Game: Babylon 5 Collectible Card Game [Average Rating:6.75 Overall Rank:3513]
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This is for a large collection of mixed Babylon 5 CCG cards.

I picked up a lot of these in a sale and I'm a huge B5 fan (see the microbadge) but not a CCG player.

I haven't counted or sorted them (it looks like they're all mixed up) but the set came with a full set of three starter boxes and three supplement decks in a box titled "The Great War". Other boxes included were Campaign Set 1 (Narn vs. Centauri) and Campaign Set 2 (Minbar vs. Earth) but as I said the cards are all mixed up and will need sorting. There are loads of cards here ("The Great War" box contained 360 cards and there must be about twice that number in total).

The cards all appear to be in very good to excellent condition. A few are even wrapped separately in plastic.

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Babylon 5 Trading Cards - Again, these are in nice shape. Of the 120 cards, only #65 appears to be missing ("War Without End, Part I"). There are probably a couple of hundred duplicates in there too. Of the "Special" cards the following are also included:

- All 9 "Classic Confrontation" cards (1 in every 4 packs)
- 4 of the 21 "The Women of Babylon 5 in motion lenticular cards" (1 in every 10 packs)
- 1 of 6 "Legend of the Rangers" cards (1 in every box)
- 5 of 12 "The Movies" cards (1 in every 8 packs)
- 1 of 5 costume cards (1 in every 40 packs). This one contains a small piece of the black uniform worn by the character Michael Garibaldi - very cool... almost worth keeping, but I'll include it.
- 1 of 13 autograph cards (1 in every 20 packs). This one is signed by Robin Curtis - Ambassador Kalinka (whom I had the good fortune to have brunch with once and is a lovely person).
- The one double autograph card, signed by both Bruce Boxleitner and Melissa Gilbert (John and Anna Sheridan in the show). There were only 500 of these according to the manifest.

Per the rules, I will ship these for free to the U.S. and pay the first $10 anywhere else in the world.

 
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Excellent condition.

Per the rules, I'll ship for free to the U.S. and pay the first $10 elsewhere.
 
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Excellent condition.

Per the rules, I'll ship for free to the U.S. and pay the first $10 elsewhere.
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19. Board Game: Giganten [Average Rating:6.72 Overall Rank:1842]
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German edition - never published in English. A separate printout of the rules in English was provided when this was new and is included.

Opened and played once. Box has a tiny bit of wear.

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100 Shiny New Geekgold Dubloons

For you to do with as you will, no questions asked...









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21. Board Game: Vexation [Average Rating:7.08 Unranked] [Average Rating:7.08 Unranked]
Jack K
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Excellent condition. My group tried it once and decided we liked the game better without this expansion.

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22. Board Game: Fire & Axe: A Viking Saga [Average Rating:7.02 Overall Rank:910]
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Complete and in excellent condition. In fact, I took off the shrink myself, found a missing die, contacted Asmodee and had it replaced but never played it!

A fun game (I've played someone else's copy) but I might part with it - you never know...

Per the rules, I will ship for free to the U.S. and pay the first $10 elsewhere.
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23. Board Game: Senator [Average Rating:5.49 Overall Rank:16086]
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Complete and in excellent condition.

Per the rules, I will ship for free to the U.S. and pay the first $10 elsewhere.
 
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24. Board Game: Kamisado [Average Rating:6.95 Overall Rank:1240]
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Complete and in excellent condition except that there's a split up one corner of the lid. Sadly it was like that when new.

Per the rules, I will ship for free to the U.S. and pay the first $10 elsewhere.
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25. Board Game: Chinatown [Average Rating:7.29 Overall Rank:367]
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Sealed Z Man edition.

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