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Board Game: At the Gates of Loyang [Average Rating:7.38 Overall Rank:286]
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This is a game from Uwe Rosenberg that I've only played solo once before. I think I didn't get how the game worked back at the time. Now, with more experience in Euro board gaming, it's time for a revisit of this one.

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Board Game: At the Gates of Loyang [Average Rating:7.38 Overall Rank:286]
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I wanted a longer more complex game and decided on this one. I love the veggie meeples. I enjoy it, though not as much as Pandemic: The Cure.
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Board Game: At the Gates of Loyang [Average Rating:7.38 Overall Rank:286]
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Opened but not punched and cards are sealed:

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2019: 81
2018: 90
2017: 28
2016: 55
2015: 36
2014: -

Turns out I'd pick At the Gates of Loyang over Reykholt any time, but that doesn't mean Loyang is good enough to keep. I culled this last year, and haven't really missed this. It's fine, but I prefer other Rosenberg titles.
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Excellent condition. Only played 4-5 times.
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Edition: English Edition

Condition: Like New, only played a couple of times from a smoke free and pet free home.



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5. This one is way different from most Rosenberg titles. Solo is a puzzle again, but a more variable puzzle than caverna.
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Edição Z-Man games em inglês.
Caixa com alguns pontos esbranquiçados por tempo de uso.
Insert original de papelão contém um pequeno furo.
Demais Componentes em excelente estado.
Cartas sleevadas e com paste-up em português.

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Primeira edição em inglês.
Usado em ótimo estado.
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Saí de São Paulo, SP
 
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It's an older game that might be a bit hard to find, but it's well worth it.

While it plays up to 4, I find 2 to be the sweet spot.
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At the Gates of Loyang ‐ Z-Man English edition (2010)
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Yesterday was a rest day from my rigorous home exercise program, so I had time for a little bit longer of a game than I normally break out on weeknights. (Only half kidding here... while it wouldn't exactly be rigorous for someone in halfway decent physical shape, I have found that pushing myself to the brink of passing out 4x per week has actually been very helpful when it comes to staying sane during lockdown.) I was trying to decide between Loyang and Le Havre, and Loyang won mostly because it had been such a long time that I was worried I would forget the rules if it sat on the shelf any longer. I've only ever played it twice, so I need to get some more sessions under my belt before the rules are truly solidified.

I got 17 points again -- this has been my score for all three of my plays, but this was the first one where I'm pretty sure I didn't make any rules mistakes. (My last game, I was flipping over the red satisfaction markers once I filled the customer's orders again, rather than leaving them red until the Salesperson can come in and flip them over.) One of my criticisms of this game after my first couple plays was that the flattened score track makes it hard to track your progress game-to-game, but I realized this time, that my true score is really my rank on the prosperity path plus my leftover money. Despite getting some help from rules mistakes in my first plays, this was my best game so far -- 17 + 13. Only five coins short of hitting 18, which is my general goal. I tend not to be good enough at Uwe games to really blast it out of the park score-wise, so I'm not anticipating hitting 19 any time soon (or ever).

I went really heavy on market stalls in this game, and I could probably have done without a couple of them in exchange for another customer to serve. They did help a lot, but they also made it cost-prohibitive to buy a 2-pack from round 4 onward. For kicks, I decided to take a meaningless loan at the end of the game just to have enough money to get to level 18, before being dragged back to level 17 by the debt collector's goons.

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Up next -- The Gallerist! I've had this game on my radar for over a year, but I kept putting off buying it. I waffled back and forth for a month about whether this or Lisboa should be my first Lacerda game, and after choosing Lisboa, the Gallerist has languished on my wishlist ever since. It seems right up my alley, though, and it gets very high marks as a solo game, so I'm excited. I bought this on the same day that I bought Roads & Boats, but given that UPS has likely lost my R&B package, I'll be learning/playing Gallerist first.

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Imaginary conversation with my wife:

"So what's this game about?"

"It's about vegetable farmers."

"Uh, OK."

And yet it is awesome.

It's been a while since my last post: working just about every weekend and longish hours on a side project hustle on top of my day job hasn't left much time for games. In the last 30 days I've played nothing but a losing game of Bloc by Bloc (it happens), 7 rounds of Coffee Roaster (playing at Normal difficulty level seems quite a jump from Easy)... and 10 games of my very first Uwe.

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And I just scored my highest game ever: 16!

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A last-round acquisition of the Maid allowed me to get a leek to satisfy my other last-round casual customer for a whopping 14 coins plus another 4th-round regular customer for another 8 coins.

This game is just superb. Engine builders--especially an engine builder like this one--are slowly chipping away at my preference for narrative games because this game is that excellent.

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Check out Mr. Prosperity above.

My highest score is still below "good:" a 16. But the coolest thing is how one can reconstruct very clearly where one went wrong: shouldn't have taken that loan, shouldn't have chosen that regular customer looking for leeks in the early round when I had no leek fields, and so on.

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Baby Cthulhu reminds you to eat your vegetables, though it prefers devouring gods instead.

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thumbsupthumbsdown OK, just to get this out of the way. The main reason I wasn't very interested in this game in the first place was the art. Hey, I've seen much much worse--no buck teeth, thank goodness--but that font still screams "Szechuan Garden." Call me a little sensitive, but look at the cover art for Ghost Stories and tell me that doesn't look kickass. (Of course, At the Gates of Loyang is about... vegetable farmers, and the other has demon-slaying Taoist priests going toe to toe with the Lord of the Nine Hells.)

thumbsupthumbsup This game is smooooooooooth. And by "smooooooooooth" (hardly a technical phrase, I know) I refer specifically to the game's rules and mechanics that flowed so effortlessly--so intuitive that they seemed deceptively simple--but nonetheless provided an interesting challenge. I watched a playthrough, read through the rulebook, and jumped right in without having to refer to the rulebook once. OK, maybe I did once, because I had to reconstruct the difference in setting up for a solo game vs. a two-player game and what did or didn't apply. But otherwise the training wheels came off very quickly, so to speak. "Elegant" is an overused adjective (like "vile" in black metal album reviews), but I do not hesitate to use it here because it's an apt term for that mechanical smoothness. Like, I don't know, some perfectly engineered precision timepiece.

thumbsup And to dive a little deeper into the game mechanics: progressing along the Path to Prosperity is such an intuitive process. It becomes more expensive to level up in later turns, so... do you try to advance early, or use your coins to buy that pricey turnip and sow a field for harvesting in the next turn? I like the idea of having to think two or three steps ahead without the tension (though I like that too), e.g. having an area ravaged by evil colonists in a couple of turns.

thumbsup Same thing with how the crops from your home field (usually wheat) are both harvested and function as a round tracker. And the market--where the second row is discarded every turn, but leaving an always-free row behind--is a clever implementation of the act of refreshing the tableau.

thumbsup Despite the apparent dryness of the theme, the game offered some surprisingly memorable moments: in one scenario, I deliberately emptied, and therefore discarded, my almost-empty market stalls by trading Wheat for Wheat (and Bean for Bean). This allowed me to pay just one coin, instead of three, for a two-pack--something I really needed, because the market cards were weak.

E It makes me wonder then if this is the pinnacle of Uwe for solo. (I went on a mad Shelter-In-Place-triggered auction binge and got A Feast for Odin, which seems like a major step up in complexity.)

E I need to find some coins. Playing Scythe with heavy metal coins was such a joy, and I can only assume the same for Loyang.

E BTW the real Lijing Gate in the city of Luoyang https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g303731-d18250... looks really cool.

From gallery of thewilyf

Postscript: I just hit 17 on my ninth game!!!!! The Saleswoman helped immensely in the penultimate turn, letting me reset my satisfaction markers (and not incur any fines for unhappy customers). This allowed me to send my goods instead to a casual customer who paid well. In the last turn I ended up paying a 2-coin fine, but that was still less than the amount I earned from another casual customer (plus a couple of leek orders to regulars)--and that extra cash was all I needed to jump from 14 to 17. What a game.
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Board Game: At the Gates of Loyang [Average Rating:7.38 Overall Rank:286]
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O Uwe ειναι ο αγαπημενος μου σχεδιαστης, και εχω ακουσει οτι το συγκεκριμενο ειναι απο τα καλυτερα solo του. Αυτο θα το δουμε..meeple

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