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Board Game: Panzer Armee Afrika [Average Rating:6.13 Overall Rank:5070]
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I think I'm going to win the unofficial no-prize for oldest game played this month (otherwise, the gauntlet has been thrown down! Out grog me, if you can!!!!)

I am playing the 1973 edition shown. I don't have a lot of experience with SPI games as my opinion of them was that they made overly-complicated games whose games probably didn't age that well. I got this knowing Avalon Hill had made it and was surprised to learn it started with SPI. The rules are about the equivalent of 4 pages of length.

With the old games (ex: Afrika Korps, there is a warm nostalgic feeling, but at the same time, you can see the age of the game in the mechanics, especially the odds-based CRTs (AR, DR, AE, DE, EX) that create swingy results and the mechanics feel like so many of the games from that era.

I expected the same with this and was pleasantly surprised. This plays unlike any game I have from that era. You sum the differences in combat strengths and roll on that column to remove points from the enemy. If he survives, he counter-attacks. That is pretty groovy.

The units have insane movement factors: 2-50 is a common unit (attack/move). Supply is handled in a far superior way than "trace a path to Alexandria), where you have supply markers that you move around the board and based on if it moved and how many movement factors away from it determines if the combat units gets to use all, half, or none of of its combat factors.

This was designed by the master, Jim Dunnigan. I heard his prized padawan, Great One, say in a podcast that Dunnigan told him to filter as much history through about 3 mechanics. Going past that over-complicates the game and reduces the fun in the name of realism. This is a problem a lot of young designers have. Well, the designer notes spoke of the uniqueness of the theater and how he created new mechanics to capture this.

I have to say that I have been impressed and surprised. Where Afrika Korps gets dusted off every 10 years or so, I can see this actually being a "go to" solitaire game on the topic.
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Board Game: Panzer Armee Afrika [Average Rating:6.13 Overall Rank:5070]
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I am playing the 1973 edition shown. I don't have a lot of experience with SPI games as my opinion of them was that they made overly-complicated games whose games probably didn't age that well. I got this knowing Avalon Hill had made it and was surprised to learn it started with SPI. The rules are about the equivalent of 4 pages of length.

With the old games (ex: Afrika Korps, there is a warm nostalgic feeling, but at the same time, you can see the age of the game in the mechanics, especially the odds-based CRTs (AR, DR, AE, DE, EX) that create swingy results and the mechanics feel like so many of the games from that era.

I expected the same with this and was pleasantly surprised. This plays unlike any game I have from that era. You sum the differences in combat strengths and roll on that column to remove points from the enemy. If he survives, he counter-attacks. That is pretty groovy.

The units have insane movement factors: 2-50 is a common unit (attack/move). Supply is handled in a far superior way than "trace a path to Alexander), where you have supply markers that you move around the board and based on if it moved and how many movement factors away from it determines if the combat units gets to use all, half, or none of of its combat factors.

This was designed by the master, Jim Dunnigan. I heard his prized padawan, Great One, say in a podcast that Dunnigan told him to filter as much history through about 3 mechanics. Going past that over-complicates the game and reduces the fun in the name of realism. This is a problem a lot of young designers have. Well, the designer notes spoke of the uniqueness of the theater and how he created new mechanics to capture this.

I have to say that I have been impressed and surprised. Where Afrika Korps gets dusted off every 10 years or so, I can see this actually being a "go to" solitaire game on the topic.
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Board Game: Panzer Armee Afrika [Average Rating:6.13 Overall Rank:5070]
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African Campaign between April 1941 and November 1942
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Board Game: Panzer Armee Afrika [Average Rating:6.13 Overall Rank:5070]
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Condition: From 1982 version. Appears to be all there as it is partially unpunched. I did not do a full inventory.

Will ship to all 50 states.
 
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Board Game: Panzer Armee Afrika [Average Rating:6.13 Overall Rank:5070]
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Avalon Hills, English, good condition
 
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Jean-Michel Couture
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Avalon Hill, English, good condition for a 40 years old game.
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Board Game: Panzer Armee Afrika [Average Rating:6.13 Overall Rank:5070]
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S&Ts first operational treatment of the Desert War
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Board Game: Panzer Armee Afrika [Average Rating:6.13 Overall Rank:5070]
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Poll: The 2016 AH Cup
First Round Proper
Select One:
  Your Answer   Vote Percent Vote Count
168 Panzer Armee Afrika (Salford City)
47.0% 47
75 Stonewall's Last Battle (Carlisle United)
53.0% 53
Voters 100
This poll is now closed.   100 answers
Poll created by J.L.Robert
Closes: Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:00 am
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Board Game: Panzer Armee Afrika [Average Rating:6.13 Overall Rank:5070]
Jean-Michel Couture
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Avalon Hills, English, good condition for its age
 
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Avalon Hills. Good condition for its age. Punched
 
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Poll: The 2016 AH Cup
Second Qualifying Round
Select One:
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168 Panzer Armee Afrika (Salford City)
55.7% 44
179 Blitzkrieg (Redditch United)
44.3% 35
Voters 79
This poll is now closed.   79 answers
Poll created by J.L.Robert
Closes: Mon Feb 1, 2016 6:00 am
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Board Game: Panzer Armee Afrika [Average Rating:6.13 Overall Rank:5070]
Danni Durante
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In shrink. Although there is a small tear in the shrink.

English.
 
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Board Game: Panzer Armee Afrika [Average Rating:6.13 Overall Rank:5070]
Judd Vance
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Got this for Christmas last year.

Rating: 8
Comment: I was genuinely surprised by this game. I expect a 1973 game to feel outdated, but it really did not. I have the SPI version shown on the left. If you read the designer notes, you can tell Jim Dunnigan was trying to focus the specifics of North Africa through a handful of mechanics, which was how he rolled. In this case, he had to design new mechanics to capture this. I have not seen these mechanics in other games, so the game felt newer than it was.

The combat system uses a punch-counterpunch system that is based only on combat strength differential, rather than odds you lose strength points rather than retreat/eliminate/exchange units.

The supply system is far superior to the "trace a path to Alexandria" variants. You actually manage supply markers and move them around in trucks and the proximity to units lets you know how much combat strength you can use in a battle.

The Allied command friction is captured simply and effectively, and the game solos perfectly. A big winner from the old vaults.
 
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Board Game: Panzer Armee Afrika [Average Rating:6.13 Overall Rank:5070]
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Old school hex & chit. Picked up a copy off the used shelf at GG for $12. One more N. Africa game to tinker with solo.
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This is my preferred NA game. When I got this in the 1970's, I thought it was just the most amazing thing I'd ever seen.
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Judd Vance
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Christmas present. A Dunnigan/SPI game, so that is two reasons to check it out. Looks to have a pretty easy rulebook, also.

Update: Yay! One of the best surprises ever. I had low expectations for this, thinking it was outdated, but this is a really good game!
 
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Board Game: Panzer Armee Afrika [Average Rating:6.13 Overall Rank:5070]
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15 of 17. 2 counters missing in this one. Also $6.00

edited for image.
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Board Game: Panzer Armee Afrika [Average Rating:6.13 Overall Rank:5070]
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Avalon Hill 1982. $3. Come along with the rest of your friends.
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22-25 October 1940

Savona and Brescia Infantry divisions arrive at the Marble Arches from Tripoli today. These two units are slated to be mobilized by the “Truck Shuffle”. 3rd Jan Division constructed another hedgehog to protect Sidi Barrani against any Commonwealth intentions. Otherwise we are bogged down with attenuated supply lines. The 21st Artillery is ordered to barrage the advance units but is largely ineffective so no combat was risked.

There is intelligence that the Australian 6th Division is in Alexandria. An unexpected barrage from British Ships hits Sidi Barrani supply dumps. A small amount of supply is lost.
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Poll: The 2015 AH Cup
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169 Panzer Armee Afrika (Dulwich Hamlet)
80.8% 63
202 Stock Market Guru (Rushall Olympic)
19.2% 15
Voters 78
This poll is now closed.   78 answers
Poll created by J.L.Robert
Closes: Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:00 am
 
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Board Game: Panzer Armee Afrika [Average Rating:6.13 Overall Rank:5070]
Bill Krasner
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English. Got it in a trade. Box shows its age.
 
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Jason Monroe
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$4.00 @ private seller #1
SPI Flat Tray 1973
Complete w/ unpunched counters
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English. Got it in a trade. Box shows its age.
 
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