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Game II of EiA Sawatdee continues...

When we last left this particular EiA Sawatdee story...

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1155170/eia-sawatdee-jan...

The 1st Coalition War had ended. France had unconditional'd to Austria & Prussia and remained at war with Britain and Turkey. Russian had returned to the east with an informal after suffering two debacles somewhere in Holland. France ended with a 150/50 money/manpower base and its army largely intact (suffered about $300 in guard and cav losses in the corps reduction...no reps). The Germanies gained bragging rights and peace for 18 months. France & Spain were off to gut the Turk for his participation in the 1st coalition war, the BEF had just landed in Portugal and the Russian bear was amassing troops on the Turkish border.

Our Prussian player was tied up and couldn't attend. Given the peace, Austria stepped in and administered Prussia (thanks Fitz for yeoman work!). New to god's country, Wendell dropped by. Looks like we'll be getting him roped into our regular EiA/WiF/LGG crews.

We gathered at 9ish AM...set up the game (which only takes 15 min to redeploy all the forces), broke out the bloody mary's and began Nov 1806.


All is good: Playing EiA on a saturday in May!

Nov 1806


BEF in Portugal


French/Spanish Expeditionary Force liberating the kingdom of heaven

Session began with the rabid Spanish admiral back in action leading a Dutch fleet of 7 vs 10 brits off the coast of Portugal. The Brit continued his horrible game long run of bad luck with yet another miserable die roll (after, yet again, losing the wind gauge), but managed to eek out a victory. The BEF tried again, unsuccessfully, to break into Lisbon in a desperate effort to secure a friendly port before the quickly approaching French army from the North could drive the lads into the sea.

The combined French/Spanish navy of 80 ships quickly concentrated in the western med (porting up at the rock of Gibraltar), in prep for catching the British fleet (about 60 ships) blockading Lisbon.

In the east, the other sideshow (French/Spanish liberation of Africa and the Middle East from the lowly Turk) continued with the Turkish conducting a sortie off the coast of Egypt and sinking a 1 point French fleet providing supply. Undeterred, the FEF (French Expeditionary Force) broke into Cario and Alexandria. The war in Egypt was over.

Austrians and Prussians continued their build and recovery from the 1st Coalition war. Prussians snagged Holland from the Spanish. Russia continued to amass its army on the Turkish border.

Dec 1806


Brits notice a sign outside of Lisbon


Deployments on Russo-Turk border

The British fleet fled from Portugal and told their BEF "Good luck boys". The BEF, fearing for their lives, fought desperately to break into Lisbon. Finally, on the fourth try, they were successful. A siege battle occurred. Surprisingly, the Portuguese defeated Moore and BEF. Much rejoicing.

The year ended with much diplomatic activity (threat and counter threats), as war between the Russians and Turks appeared imminent.

We did a check of the army sizes (including garrisons) of all the players. As of NOV 1806:

Austria 140

Prussia 120

France 180

Spain 70

Russia 160

Turkey 50 (excluding feudals and the remnants of the once proud Ottoman empire)

Brits 50

Regarding ships...

France/Spain/Portugal: 80

Brits: 70

Turkey: 20

Russia: 40

Note: The rabid Spanish admiral took special satisfaction in the destruction he had wrought during the game: $1000 of ships sitting on the bottom of the seas.

Jan 1807


NAP drives BEF into the sea

January began with a Russian declaration of war on the lowly Turks. Surprisingly, Prussia was called by Turkey and answered. Austria was not called by either embattled ally.

During the turn, Russia concentrated its forces and inched forward pushing its supply line, while the Turks and 2 Prussian corps stayed well back well off the border.

59 french factors + ONE SINGLE Spanish Cav factor (the sleeping Spanish general failed to reinforce) caught the 15 remaining factors of the BEF (including 4 cav) and eliminated them to a man, despite losing the chit pull (Echelon vs Cordon). French losses were ONE Inf (the only french loss of the entire session vs. about 20 brits, 10 prussians, 30 russians and assorted lowly Turks). Moore was led to a Spanish prison, with the rabid Spanish admiral planning rather brutal ways to entertain his new English guest.

Feb 1807


French/Spanish liberate the Kingdom of Heaven

In Feb, the sideshows ended: The combined French/Spanish fleet moved into position to invade Britain (now MUCH weakened, after destroying the BEF), while in the east, the holy land was liberated. Prussia plucked Bavaria from the Russians (who had somehow ended up with the prize in the 1st Coalition War).

Mar 1807

The turn began with Britain quickly suing for peace. Spain was granted a Conditional (loaned corps and a marriage) France conquered Palestine and stopped at the gates of Damascus - completing an almost 30% increase in the size of Frances economic base that had occurred since the end of the 1st Coalition War. This increase was generated by grabbing the Ottoman and a conquest of Turkish holdings in Italy. Despite the British surrender, the combined French/Spanish armada embarked about 60 French and Spanish factors in Lisbon and indicated their desire to sail out. Would Britain intercept (approximately 60 brits vs 80 french/spanish)?

After much debate in the Coalition camp - and French assurances the French would not be landing on that little patch of land called England - Britain decided to let the force pass. The combined French/Spanish sailed to St.Malmo...causing a fair amount of conjecture regarding what next might be up the sleeves of the rabid Spanish admiral and his French backer.

The 1st Russo-Turkish war witnessed its first significant clash of arms on the fields of Silistra as Kutuzov moved to engage the main Turkish/Prussian army.


First Battle of Silistra begins

94 Russians (8 corps...10 Guard, 64 inf, 11 cav, 2 mil, 6 arty) vs 97 turks/prussians.... 22/1 prussian inf/cav, 74 turks (27/13 feudal inf/cav...26/8 turkish inf/cav) met in the field of battle...


Chit pick time

...and gut check time had finally arrived. Time for Lt Jason to pick his first BIG chit after 10 sessions of EiA (Jason had begun his EiA journey 10 sessions ago). The Russian went out on the balcony and got some advice/coaching from the rabid Spanish admiral and the wise Austrian.

After a few minutes, he returned and tossed down his selection (of course, unrevealed selection). The manner in how the Russian plopped down his choice prompted the formerly confident hairy arsed Turk to reconsider his choice. A few minutes of hemming and ha'ing and the Turkish hardcore EiA veteran has made his selection vs his EiA novice opponent. The chits were revealed....

Russians went with Assault and the lowly Turk countered with Cordon. After few "Yeeeeeeeeehaws!" were shouted be a few of the observers, dice were rolled and a predicted (by the chits) Russian victory resulted. 29 turks/prussians perished vs 16 Russians deaths. A "4" class pursuit failed to generated significant pursuit losses. The Turks retreated along the coast.

In the Turk movement phase, the turks/prussian force initiated the second battle of Silistra. 97 (2.6 morale) turks/prussians met 79 (3.4 morale) Russians. Again, Lt Jason (the Russian) went to the balcony to develop a battle plan. He returned. Again, he boldly tossed down his chit (actually, we use cards).

The Turk looked up from his battle plans and said, "Well, you did get into my head last time, but not this time". After a few minutes, the Turk had his selected chit to avenge the first battle of Silistra. It was time to reveal the respective battle plans...


2nd Battle of Silistra...chits revealed

...the Russian beamed from ear to ear: he was escalating the turkish probe. It was going to be brutal. Russia did a 2 level guard commitment in 2nd round to guarantee a turkish/prussian break. Low die rolls (and another poor roll on the "4" cav pursuit table) resulted in only 18 Turks/prussians loses vs 10 for Russia. Bringing combined Turkish/Prussia losses to about 50 vs 30 for the Russian.

Most importantly, Russia had gained 6 political points in the battles to date, while turkey had lost 6 and prussia 2. The Russian asked, "Is it time". We universally answered, "Yes, it is most definitely time".

"What time, boys and girls?"

A can of WHOOP ASS time!


Yes, it is time to open a can of WHOOP ASS!


As March 1807 concluded...west to east...french building for the next war in 8 months, Russians in Prussia, a war in Turkey and catholics liberating the holy land in the distance

During the interphase, Egypt was ceded to Spain by France - a gift for the rabid Spanish admiral.

We decided to have just a short session for the day: 5 1/2 hours, 5 action packed/FUN turns completed. Looks like we may try to get in one more session in late May prior to the summer busting out, finally, in the Twin Cities. Until then, we'll have the usual updates/trash talk on the regular EiA Sawatdee thread here:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1036872/eia-sawatdee/pag...


The Turk outside an appropriate bar in DC

Vive la France!

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Since we are fans of integrated poly/econ/war games, we tried Cuba: The Splendid Little War at the First Minnesota Historical Wargame Society Friday nite: initial thumbs up. "A lot going on in this small game with a few pieces". Also picked up Sparta versus Athens and discussed Unconditional Surrender! World War 2 in Europe - a few members have copies and we're hoping to play soon. And, we made plans for the World Boardgaming Championships this summer; sounds like a number of us from EiA Sawatdee & 1st MN will be attending. Finally, still planning to initiate LGG Sawatdee La Grande Guerre 14-18 on the 100th anniversary of the grand duke's death on June 28th.
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Is wifwendell in any of the pictures? I don't see anyone that looks like his avatar...
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No, he isn't. Wendell stopped by early and was around for an hour. He'll be a great addition to our EiA/WiF/LGG crews.
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We resume our current game tomorrow. Currently enforced peace between France, Austria and Prussia. Through some sly maneuvering last session Russia achieved dominance, with British assent. In the face of Russian-British collusion, an alliance between Prussia and France has thrown the table into chaos.

Probably one more session of hard diplomacy before the enforced peace ends and war erupts again. But who will be fighting who?
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Any comment on why when England surrendered the rabid Spanish did not try to destroy British fleets in the peace terms?
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Eric Brosius wrote:
Is wifwendell in any of the pictures? I don't see anyone that looks like his avatar...


Now Eric you've met me, you know I look nothing like my avatar.

I'm MUCH taller.
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rmiller1093 wrote:
Any comment on why when England surrendered the rabid Spanish did not try to destroy British fleets in the peace terms?


Wanted to keep the pot stirring is my guess - since that stirring pot currently favors French/Spanish interests. Additionally, the ship situation still favors the French/Spanish forces - 8 fleet counters and an 80 to 66 advantage in ships. France/Spain is building about 3 per turn vs the British 4 or 5. France/Spain can gear up to 10 a turn if pushed: and Britain could also ramp up - probably 8 a turn if needed....but neither has to this point. Consequently, France/Spain doesn't anticipate the balance of naval power changing anytime soon. Of course, if Russia or Turkey intervenes - that would change the balance significantly in the short term.

EiA is partially about winning when you surrender - if that makes sense. Or, how one changes the diplomatic situation based upon who you surrender to & what terms are granted. And, same on the other side - how the terms of accepting a surrender will change the resulting diplomatic situation (balance of power).

What do you want the balance of power situation to be after the surrender? Who do you want mad at who? Any way to create instability that favors you by accepting a peace that might be less harsh than what one could demand? Or, can granting a surrender cause a significant change in the diplomatic situation? More on that after the game.

Anyways, probably more going on regarding the Spanish granting the conditional (rather than demanding an unconditional) than meets the eye.
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rmiller1093 wrote:
Any comment on why when England surrendered the rabid Spanish did not try to destroy British fleets in the peace terms?


Because Spain only got a conditional surrender, not an unconditional. Destroying fleets is not an option in a conditional surrender.
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I thought of that Warren after I posted the question.modest

Personally I would have never let the Brits off with a conditional surrender. Their fleets are so superior if you ever get the advantage you really need to make them pay. I suspect in several years that even if the Spanish/French have more ships the die rolling will turn around and the seas will return to English dominance.

Herr Dr.-I played the game many, many, times in the past. Regular group for 16 years every week that played monster games but this was our favorite.
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16 years of weekly EiA? Impressive!
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Good AAR, as always.

Mars 1807 -
"The combined French/Spanish sailed to St.Malmo...causing a fair amount of conjecture regarding what next might be up the sleeves of the rabid Spanish admiral and his French backer."

Except if they goes all the way to Sweden the french port is St Malo Or perhaps was it an unconscious reveal ?
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rmiller1093 wrote:
Personally I would have never let the Brits off with a conditional surrender. Their fleets are so superior if you ever get the advantage you really need to make them pay.


Roger, doesn't that depend on who the player is for Britain and his philosophy of how Britain should be played? If Britain loses naval superiority, then it seems to me that Britain will effectively be out of the game and won't be able to safely move any troops out of Britain. That can have extremely dire consequences for play balance over the remainder of the game.
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That was my thought-too unpredictable a change in the current situation - which currently favors french and spanish.

And, play balance - in order for the game to go long - and be most interesting, all must at least have some chance of victory. We always try to stay within the mid-field lines so to speak. That is what makes keeping a long running eia game so difficult. It's like a regular poker gme between mates-you don't want any one losing too big.
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