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This is a math trade that will be held with the occasion of the SM-kisat 2015 event in Turku, Finland, 14 May 2015. Participants are expected to bring their items to the event for exchange, or make other arrangements. Participants are expected to bring their items to the event for exchange, or make other arrangements.

This is also happens to be the Thursday before Ropecon 2015, which represents another chance to exchange games, so there will not be a separate Math Trade for Ropecon. Next one will be in November, for Lautapelaamaan 2015.

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SM-kisat / Ropecon 2015 Math Trade

Määräajat, linkit, ehdot

Määräaika, johon mennessä pelit on lisättävä GeekListiin: Thursday, April 30th, 2015, 23:00
Määräaika, johon mennessä want listit on lähetettävä OLWLG:hen: Thursday, May 7th, 2015, 23:00

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Vinkkejä onnistuneeseen ketjuvaihtoon

Eikö tarjolla oikein ole pelejä, joita haluaisit? Lisää pelisi silti, se on ilmaista! Tämä kannustaa muita tekemään samoin ja saat parempia vastineita. Jos kaikki vain odottavat muiden olevan ensimmäisiä, mitään ei tapahdu. Voit aina olla tekemättä vaihtoa lähettämällä nimikkeestä tyhjän want listin.

Lisää pelit vaihtoon ajoissa. Mitä aikaisemmin, sen parempi, sillä muut käyttäjät huomaavat ne näin helpommin. Se on myös hyvä keino ”mainostaa” tarjoamiasi pelejä sekä houkutella muita suoriin vaihtoihin myös ketjuvaihdon aikana.

Yhdistä useita pelejä yhdeksi nimikkeeksi, jos ne eivät ole kovin suosittuja. Yksi peli, jota pelataan, on parempi kuin viisi keräämässä pölyä.

Kun lisäät pelejä, ota huomioon, että LWLG/BGG-synkronointi on tehtävä manuaalisesti, joten GeekListiin tehtyjen lisäysten näkyminen OLWLG:ssä voi viedä pari tuntia.

Etkö halua enää tarjota jotakin peliä? Tämä on ok, kunhan lisäät nimikkeeseen huomautuksen asiasta. Lähetä nimikkeestä tyhjät want listit, ja tee näin myös, jos muutat mielesi GeekListin lukitsemisen jälkeen.

Onko pelien lisääminen vaivalloista? Voit tuoda aiempien ketjuvaihtojen tietoja OLWLG:n automaattisen tuontitoiminnon avulla. Näin sinun on vain tarkistettava mahdolliset muutokset ja napsautettava sitten ”Submit”-painiketta.

Älä lähetä want listejä ennen kuin vaihdon ylläpitäjä on antanut siihen luvan ensimmäisen määräajan umpeutumisen jälkeen.

Osta! Myy! Ketjuvaihto on loistava keino vaihtaa pelejä rahaa vastaan ja päin vastoin. Se maksimoi myyjien saaman summan ja minimoi ostajien maksaman summan, koska ketju perustuu muiden käyttäjien vaihtohaluun.

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RESULTS ARE FINAL


Do not give or send any games yet!
All participants now have 24 hours to report any problems.


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You may freely trade. See instructions a few posts below.
 
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Re: SM-kisat 2015 Math Trade discussion thread
Here are all the trade results in a nice format:

http://bgg.activityclub.org/olwlg/trades-summary.cgi?listid=...



"Who wanted mine" and "Most wanted" are also live on OLWLG. These are useful for those that want to go and arrange individual side trades after the MT results have been declared to be final.

http://bgg.activityclub.org/olwlg/wantedby.cgi?listid=188951
http://bgg.activityclub.org/olwlg/mostwanted.cgi?listid=1889...
 
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Re: SM-kisat 2015 Math Trade discussion thread
Raw results:

TradeMaximizer Version 1.4a
Options: ALLOW-DUMMIES REQUIRE-COLONS REQUIRE-USERNAMES HIDE-NONTRADES SHOW-ELAPSED-TIME

Input Checksum: 686d20806c75af5b47cc9dd54a92ecf
TRADE LOOPS (47 total trades):

(ADEBISI) 0034-MOV receives (RUNTU) 0176-GIPF
(RUNTU) 0176-GIPF receives (MSAARI) 0058-RIALTO
(MSAARI) 0058-RIALTO receives (KILGORE) 0076-UNION
(KILGORE) 0076-UNION receives (KUULA) 0106-MRHOU
(KUULA) 0106-MRHOU receives (ADEBISI) 0041-PASHA
(ADEBISI) 0041-PASHA receives (KAKTUSFIN) 0090-SAMUR
(KAKTUSFIN) 0090-SAMUR receives (RUNTU) 0180-SEELA
(RUNTU) 0180-SEELA receives (KUULA) 0111-DRAGO
(KUULA) 0111-DRAGO receives (JANENGLUND) 0228-AN4E
(JANENGLUND) 0228-AN4E receives (MISSU) 0200-SKYLI
(MISSU) 0200-SKYLI receives (SINTONIC) 0143-MDK
(SINTONIC) 0143-MDK receives (HESSU68) 0250-SEVOL
(HESSU68) 0250-SEVOL receives (KAKTUSFIN) 0086-SSE
(KAKTUSFIN) 0086-SSE receives (KILGORE) 0075-YS
(KILGORE) 0075-YS receives (HESSU68) 0252-NDM
(HESSU68) 0252-NDM receives (SINTONIC) 0130-AETHER
(SINTONIC) 0130-AETHER receives (ADEBISI) 0034-MOV

(ADEBISI) 0038-ALCAB receives (JANENGLUND) 0229-AN2E
(JANENGLUND) 0229-AN2E receives (TANJUSKA) 0193-PBEVO
(TANJUSKA) 0193-PBEVO receives (HESSU68) 0262-UDW
(HESSU68) 0262-UDW receives (SINTONIC) 0145-PRIFEA
(SINTONIC) 0145-PRIFEA receives (HESSU68) 0263-DC
(HESSU68) 0263-DC receives (REPWARD) 0242-WDCG
(REPWARD) 0242-WDCG receives (ADEBISI) 0038-ALCAB

(HAKUUS) 0055-EVOLU receives (KREIKKATURKULAINEN) 0011-INNOV
(KREIKKATURKULAINEN) 0011-INNOV receives (HAKUUS) 0072-WAGDAN
(HAKUUS) 0072-WAGDAN receives (REPWARD) 0236-AN1E
(REPWARD) 0236-AN1E receives (KUULA) 0112-EPIRES
(KUULA) 0112-EPIRES receives (KREIKKATURKULAINEN) 0006-OLYMP
(KREIKKATURKULAINEN) 0006-OLYMP receives (SINTONIC) 0134-CONCE
(SINTONIC) 0134-CONCE receives (HESSU68) 0251-SMAUP
(HESSU68) 0251-SMAUP receives (HAKUUS) 0056-KAR
(HAKUUS) 0056-KAR receives (HARDCOREGAMER) 0078-AN2E
(HARDCOREGAMER) 0078-AN2E receives (KILGORE) 0073-SEASO
(KILGORE) 0073-SEASO receives (HAKUUS) 0070-IMPSET
(HAKUUS) 0070-IMPSET receives (HARDCOREGAMER) 0079-AN2E
(HARDCOREGAMER) 0079-AN2E receives (HAKUUS) 0069-AOD
(HAKUUS) 0069-AOD receives (REPWARD) 0230-AN2E
(REPWARD) 0230-AN2E receives (JANENGLUND) 0208-OEL
(JANENGLUND) 0208-OEL receives (REPWARD) 0234-AN2E
(REPWARD) 0234-AN2E receives (HAKUUS) 0055-EVOLU

(HESSU68) 0256-TARGUI receives (TANJUSKA) 0192-CHOCO
(TANJUSKA) 0192-CHOCO receives (HESSU68) 0261-ONDT
(HESSU68) 0261-ONDT receives (SINTONIC) 0139-JUSTI
(SINTONIC) 0139-JUSTI receives (HESSU68) 0256-TARGUI

(HESSU68) 0258-FLYFRO receives (SINTONIC) 0140-DMANS
(SINTONIC) 0140-DMANS receives (HESSU68) 0258-FLYFRO

ITEM SUMMARY (47 total trades):

(ADEBISI) 0034-MOV receives (RUNTU) 0176-GIPF and sends to (SINTONIC) 0130-AETHER
(ADEBISI) 0038-ALCAB receives (JANENGLUND) 0229-AN2E and sends to (REPWARD) 0242-WDCG
(ADEBISI) 0041-PASHA receives (KAKTUSFIN) 0090-SAMUR and sends to (KUULA) 0106-MRHOU
(HAKUUS) 0055-EVOLU receives (KREIKKATURKULAINEN) 0011-INNOV and sends to (REPWARD) 0234-AN2E
(HAKUUS) 0056-KAR receives (HARDCOREGAMER) 0078-AN2E and sends to (HESSU68) 0251-SMAUP
(HAKUUS) 0069-AOD receives (REPWARD) 0230-AN2E and sends to (HARDCOREGAMER) 0079-AN2E
(HAKUUS) 0070-IMPSET receives (HARDCOREGAMER) 0079-AN2E and sends to (KILGORE) 0073-SEASO
(HAKUUS) 0072-WAGDAN receives (REPWARD) 0236-AN1E and sends to (KREIKKATURKULAINEN) 0011-INNOV
(HARDCOREGAMER) 0078-AN2E receives (KILGORE) 0073-SEASO and sends to (HAKUUS) 0056-KAR
(HARDCOREGAMER) 0079-AN2E receives (HAKUUS) 0069-AOD and sends to (HAKUUS) 0070-IMPSET
(HESSU68) 0250-SEVOL receives (KAKTUSFIN) 0086-SSE and sends to (SINTONIC) 0143-MDK
(HESSU68) 0251-SMAUP receives (HAKUUS) 0056-KAR and sends to (SINTONIC) 0134-CONCE
(HESSU68) 0252-NDM receives (SINTONIC) 0130-AETHER and sends to (KILGORE) 0075-YS
(HESSU68) 0256-TARGUI receives (TANJUSKA) 0192-CHOCO and sends to (SINTONIC) 0139-JUSTI
(HESSU68) 0258-FLYFRO receives (SINTONIC) 0140-DMANS and sends to (SINTONIC) 0140-DMANS
(HESSU68) 0261-ONDT receives (SINTONIC) 0139-JUSTI and sends to (TANJUSKA) 0192-CHOCO
(HESSU68) 0262-UDW receives (SINTONIC) 0145-PRIFEA and sends to (TANJUSKA) 0193-PBEVO
(HESSU68) 0263-DC receives (REPWARD) 0242-WDCG and sends to (SINTONIC) 0145-PRIFEA
(JANENGLUND) 0208-OEL receives (REPWARD) 0234-AN2E and sends to (REPWARD) 0230-AN2E
(JANENGLUND) 0228-AN4E receives (MISSU) 0200-SKYLI and sends to (KUULA) 0111-DRAGO
(JANENGLUND) 0229-AN2E receives (TANJUSKA) 0193-PBEVO and sends to (ADEBISI) 0038-ALCAB
(KAKTUSFIN) 0086-SSE receives (KILGORE) 0075-YS and sends to (HESSU68) 0250-SEVOL
(KAKTUSFIN) 0090-SAMUR receives (RUNTU) 0180-SEELA and sends to (ADEBISI) 0041-PASHA
(KILGORE) 0073-SEASO receives (HAKUUS) 0070-IMPSET and sends to (HARDCOREGAMER) 0078-AN2E
(KILGORE) 0075-YS receives (HESSU68) 0252-NDM and sends to (KAKTUSFIN) 0086-SSE
(KILGORE) 0076-UNION receives (KUULA) 0106-MRHOU and sends to (MSAARI) 0058-RIALTO
(KREIKKATURKULAINEN) 0006-OLYMP receives (SINTONIC) 0134-CONCE and sends to (KUULA) 0112-EPIRES
(KREIKKATURKULAINEN) 0011-INNOV receives (HAKUUS) 0072-WAGDAN and sends to (HAKUUS) 0055-EVOLU
(KUULA) 0106-MRHOU receives (ADEBISI) 0041-PASHA and sends to (KILGORE) 0076-UNION
(KUULA) 0111-DRAGO receives (JANENGLUND) 0228-AN4E and sends to (RUNTU) 0180-SEELA
(KUULA) 0112-EPIRES receives (KREIKKATURKULAINEN) 0006-OLYMP and sends to (REPWARD) 0236-AN1E
(MISSU) 0200-SKYLI receives (SINTONIC) 0143-MDK and sends to (JANENGLUND) 0228-AN4E
(MSAARI) 0058-RIALTO receives (KILGORE) 0076-UNION and sends to (RUNTU) 0176-GIPF
(REPWARD) 0230-AN2E receives (JANENGLUND) 0208-OEL and sends to (HAKUUS) 0069-AOD
(REPWARD) 0234-AN2E receives (HAKUUS) 0055-EVOLU and sends to (JANENGLUND) 0208-OEL
(REPWARD) 0236-AN1E receives (KUULA) 0112-EPIRES and sends to (HAKUUS) 0072-WAGDAN
(REPWARD) 0242-WDCG receives (ADEBISI) 0038-ALCAB and sends to (HESSU68) 0263-DC
(RUNTU) 0176-GIPF receives (MSAARI) 0058-RIALTO and sends to (ADEBISI) 0034-MOV
(RUNTU) 0180-SEELA receives (KUULA) 0111-DRAGO and sends to (KAKTUSFIN) 0090-SAMUR
(SINTONIC) 0130-AETHER receives (ADEBISI) 0034-MOV and sends to (HESSU68) 0252-NDM
(SINTONIC) 0134-CONCE receives (HESSU68) 0251-SMAUP and sends to (KREIKKATURKULAINEN) 0006-OLYMP
(SINTONIC) 0139-JUSTI receives (HESSU68) 0256-TARGUI and sends to (HESSU68) 0261-ONDT
(SINTONIC) 0140-DMANS receives (HESSU68) 0258-FLYFRO and sends to (HESSU68) 0258-FLYFRO
(SINTONIC) 0143-MDK receives (HESSU68) 0250-SEVOL and sends to (MISSU) 0200-SKYLI
(SINTONIC) 0145-PRIFEA receives (HESSU68) 0263-DC and sends to (HESSU68) 0262-UDW
(TANJUSKA) 0192-CHOCO receives (HESSU68) 0261-ONDT and sends to (HESSU68) 0256-TARGUI
(TANJUSKA) 0193-PBEVO receives (HESSU68) 0262-UDW and sends to (JANENGLUND) 0229-AN2E

Num trades = 47 of 247 items (19.0%)
Total cost = 47 (avg 1.00)
Num groups = 5
Group sizes = 17 17 7 4 2
Sum squares = 647
Elapsed time = 31ms
 
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Tehkääpä sitten pliis hyvin selväksi se, liikkuuko tavara Ropeconissa vai SM-kisoissa, kaikki kun eivät ole tulossa molempiin tapahtumiin.

Please make it clear on your items, if they're only available in one of the events. "Handover at the event" is not enough in this trade!
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Weeelll, most people are nice and friendly, and "mules" can be found relatively easily, if past experience is any indication.
 
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I will extend the submission deadline by 1 hour after the last item has been added to the geeklist.
 
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Adding games is now closed. Please submit your want lists via the OLWLG. For instructions, see the GeekList header.


As before, I won't be able to chase down people to submit their want lists. Please do it now, to show you appreciate the time that everyone has put in listing their games.

Feel free to post any questions here.

For item-specific questions, you can ask by commenting on the relevant GeekList item. Givers have to answer, otherwise their entries are marked red by the OLWLG.


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If you are not seeing the entire list on OLWLG, check to see if this shows on the top of the page:
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You are only viewing new items added since you last viewed this page. If you would like to view the entire list click here
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After you are done with this step you may want to make one more pass viewing only items that are on your wish/want/etc lists, to do so click here

Current list of participants that still need to submit want lists:
adebisi
hakuus
HardCoreGamer
janenglund
kilgore
kaktusfin
kreikkaturkulainen
Kukko
Kuula
msaari
Repward
Runtu
Shader10
Sintonic
tanjajohanna


Hessu68
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Missu
mkaks7
Tanjuska
 
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Heads up folks, I'm submitting an empty want list, so if you have any Shader10 items, you might as well edit them out. Logistical impossibilities. / Tiedoksi vain, logistisista syistä tällä kertaa tyhjä wantlist, eli mun tavarani eivät olekkaan kierrossa.
 
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I am very likely going to Ropecon, if this is the problem.
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Results have been posted, see the 2nd & 3rd post above.

Do not give or send any games yet!
All participants now have 24 hours to report any problems.
 
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THE RESULTS ARE FINAL
You may freely trade.


To keep a minimum level of transparency, it would be good to use the BGG trade manager to leave feedback for each other. This increases the trade rating for each one of us and keeps us honest. It also projects an image of an honest trader to others you may trade with in the future

Please make sure that you have marked the items traded as "for trade" so that they show up in the BGG trade manager.

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To use the trade manager, click on http://bgg.activityclub.org/olwlg/trades-summary.cgi?listid=..., scroll down to find your trades, and click on the nickname of the user receiving one of your games.

For example, adebisi will click on the word "Kuula" where it says "-- 1. gives "Pasha (41)" to Kuula (106)".

The general rule is for the one giving the game to initiate the trade, but if he is late or forgets, the receiver can do it too.

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After the games have been exchanged, please leave feedback in the trade manager. I use the following format, feel free to copy it:
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||| SM-kisat / Ropecon 2015 Math Trade /// GAME /// Received: DATE /// Packing: DESCRIPTION (e.g. cardboard box, styrofoam) OR "N/A - face to face meeting" /// Condition: DESCRIPTION |||
For feedback to those who you only send games, you can just simply write:
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I was a sender in the SM-kisat / Ropecon 2015 Math Trade.
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I am not sure if there will be a table marked "Ketjuvaihto" at the event, I hope the organizers set one up, where you can leave your games to be picked up. In any case, I recommend that you use little yellow sticky notes with the relevant information on them. For example, Mine! should have a small post-it with "From [GIVER] to [TAKER]" written on it, replacing the relevant fields with your usernames.
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Argh, empty want list from me because I didn't know that OLWLG needs the list RESUBMITTED after any edits - I made some edits week ago & "Confirm Changes"-button was not sufficient...

 
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Argh, empty want list from me because I didn't know that OLWLG needs the list RESUBMITTED after any edits - I made some edits week ago & "Confirm Changes"-button was not sufficient...
Nope, you actually need to submit them. They were never submitted in the first place, as I mentioned via our private communication.

Besides pointing out the instructions, and noting that there was a week to submit, not sure I can do much more to help...
 
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