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I'm not sure, you mentioned "Hope and Glory" on your film/media list.

If my memory from 30 years ago is still good, i do believe it's applicable and a pretty good film also.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_and_Glory_%28film%29
 
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Oh yeah, Hope & Glory! I haven't seen it for many years. Would be good to revisit.
 
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I see TSR's Battle of Britain is getting a Kickstarter makeover. Never played the original. I see Mark gave it

No idea about this one - have a month to decide I guess
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Great podcast

Piece of Cake is an awesome novel....it really highlights the reality of the RAF in the Battle of France and Britian ( BTW, in the book they are a Hurricane squadron).

An awesome biography and movie is "First Light"...memoir of a young 18 year old Spitfire pilot during BOB.

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Thanks for listening, Michael.

I'd love to see First Light, but it's not available for me. I DID see Angels One-Five, an older film, and will discuss in the next episode.
 
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I would be glad to send it to you if you want

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I posted some thoughts & photos about the two Sea Lion games I played recently, both magazine wargames. One small, and one even smaller!

https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/196081/wargames-go-7-batt...

About the only game I have left to try is Angels One Five, and that might not make the cut if I run out of time.

Run out? Yes, well, this is a self-paced podcast...but I want to pick up the pace! My move to France has happened, and last weekend I went to see the beach & town at Dunkirk (Dunkerque). Then I discover that I have 2-3 games on the topic, a downloadable audiobook (and Kindle e-book), plus two movies to watch. The next show was once supposed to be Korea, then Alesia, and now I think I'll try to produce a quick one-off show about Dunkirk.

If all goes as planned, then: a final Battle of Britain/Sea Lion episode in September, a single Dunkirk show in October, and then perhaps Alesia in November.
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Mark - have you seen that there's a new Dunkirk movie coming out - trailer here:


Christopher Nolan directing, Tom Hardy and Kenneth Branagh in it. Due out next summer.
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Yes, I'm very excited about the upcoming movie. In fact, that was part of the appeal/selling point to my wife. She'll definitely want to see the movie, too, and it will be all the more meaningful after having actually seen the real place.

I have high hopes, judging from the trailer, crew, and cast. At the beach we saw photos that showed part of the production when it shot scenes on-location in Dunkirk.
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If Dunkirk is one of the movies to watch, is Atonement the other one?
 
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Dunkirk would be interesting - go for it!

I know the basic facts but not a lot of details. Did you know the second officer on the Titanic, Charles Lightoller, aided in the evacuation? Sailed his yacht over to pick up troops.
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My favourite Dunkirk quote is the discussion between mechanic/owner Fred Reynard and commanding admiral on the subject of sending civilians to Dunkirk (Admiral was against, Reynard wanted to go but with his own crew).

Admiral: "Ever been under shellfire?"
Reynard: "Ever heard of Gallipoli?"

Mentioned at least in "Nineteen Weeks: America, Britain, And The Fateful Summer Of 1940" book.
 
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Peregrinus92 wrote:
I am fond of the GameScience' 1968 The Battle of Britain, which I discovered in my father's collection in the mid 1970s and played often (a long time ago). The scale is probably not to your taste but it deserves a mention on this Geeklist, and I should bring it out of the closet for a spin myself.
This was the first wargame that I bought.
 
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Gregarius wrote:
If Dunkirk is one of the movies to watch, is Atonement the other one?

Yep, Dunkirk (1958), Atonement, and next year we'll all be watching Christopher Nolan's new movie Dunkirk.

I realize Atonement only has Dunkirk has a setting for its final scenes, and is primarily a romantic movie. That doesn't bother me. Just like with Mrs Miniver or South Pacific, I'm finding movies that treat these military subjects tangentially are often better than the ones about the actual battle. More humanity, better filmmaking.
 
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A decent French film on Dunkirk is "Weekend à Zuydcoote" (1964) retitled as Weekend at Dunkirk for the English market.
It features gallic heartthrob Jean-Paul Belmondo and great scenes of the beaches and the evacuation, but some parts of the story are a bit clunky in my opinion.
 
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The final episode in my Battle of Britain series is now posted, whew! Once again, I let the scope of it creep away from me, so it ended up being a 2.5 hour mega-episode with two great interviews, game discussion, and films. It blew my podcast storage limit, too! (Had to upgrade.) But it's done now, and I'm really happy with it. Tremendous info from designer Lee Brimmicombe-Wood, and more good insights from F-18 Naval Weapons Officer (ret) James Crate.

https://www.boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/57738/wargames-go-73-...
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A decent French film on Dunkirk is "Weekend à Zuydcoote" (1964) retitled as Weekend at Dunkirk for the English market.

Yes! I just happened to find this as I was searching IMDB, and now I've ordered a DVD from French ebay. It's on its way to my temporary French apartment now. I sure hope there are English subtitles...

Now I want to point everyone to the geeklist/discussion for the next topic, Dunkirk. I've decided the geeklist itself can do double-duty as the place for general discussion, comments, questions, etc.

https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/213465/wargames-go-8-dunk...
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MarkEJohnson wrote:
The final episode in my Battle of Britain series is now posted
Fantastic, fascinating episode. I learned so much about both the history and the game design challenges from you and your two guests. Very much looking forward to future topics.
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While playing RAF Battle of Britain 1940, I have a copy of Patrick Bishops 'Battle of Britain: A Day-by-day Chronicle, 10 July - 31 October 1940' to hand.

As each game Days progress I often refer to the day in question to see what actually occurred.

But my favourite reference is on the RAF's website. They have the Campaign diaries for the Battle of Britain. http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/campaign_diaries.cfm

They contain tons of information from the actual reports submitted each day. Each day starts with a summary of the days attacks and events. Followed by the numerous reports submitted on that day. As the days progress the number of raids increases and so do the total number of planes involved. The numbers involved in some raids are quite staggering.

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MarkEJohnson wrote:
The final episode in my Battle of Britain series is now posted
Just finished listening to the three Battle of Britain episodes and really enjoyed them, as I did the Pearl Harbour series.
Keep up the good work, it's much appreciated.
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Thanks for listening! I'm glad they're appreciated.
 
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