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Climate KS

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No reason not to support.
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Are the stretch goals KS exclusive?
 
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This is the first game I will support on KS.

It is such a great game, extremely thematic and such a smooth gameplay.

Hoping for lots of more expansions.


To stretch goals:

Some are called "kickstarter exclusive" but they will be available in there online store in limited numbers ... At least that is how I read it.
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Badigel wrote:
Are the stretch goals KS exclusive?
Uhm, only the ones marked as 'Kickstarter Exclusive'.
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That KS page needs so much more information.
Is Climate compatible with Flight?
What about shipping for addons? Does it stay the same for up to 3/4 copies or is calculated for each.

But overall looks good. They have reduced shipping in Europe enough to make me strogly consider backing this
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Really unsure if I am better off getting this or going for the base set to leave the options open for the expansions.
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Evolution: Climate actually IS a base game that can be combined with the Flight expansion OR the Climate expansion.

Any forthcoming expansion is going to be compatible with ONLY the base game as they said somewhere else in this forum I think.

So Climate is the better starting point for an Evolution collection then the base game would be.
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Really unsure if I am better off getting this or going for the base set to leave the options open for the expansions.

It is my understanding that the standalone option includes the base game as well as everything you need for the Climate Expansion.

I have been part of the beta testing and the new Climate additions were very easy to add to the base game. You can even choose to only add the climate trait cards at first for extra tactics and decide to add the climate events to your next play for more variety. It scales very well that way.

In short the Climate box contains contains amazing variety and I would always advise getting that above the regular game.
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No rulebook yet, or did I miss it on the page?
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hybry wrote:
They have reduced shipping in Europe enough to make me strogly consider backing this
Sadly, it'll be over the UK's £15 trigger level for VAT, so it'll be $30 + VAT + "handling fee", so about £35 for the upgraded kit, or $60 + VAT + "handling fee" - about £60. Man, I wish they shipped from the EU!

I'm in at the moment, but £35 is a lot for the conversion kit and a few KS exclusives that aren't necessary/important for gameplay (else they would be in the game). For reference, the base game is £40 delivered in UK.
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mccrispy wrote:
hybry wrote:
They have reduced shipping in Europe enough to make me strogly consider backing this
Sadly, it'll be over the UK's £15 trigger level for VAT, so it'll be $30 + VAT + "handling fee", so about £35 for the upgraded kit, or $60 + VAT + "handling fee" - about £60. Man, I wish they shipped from the EU!

I'm in at the moment, but £35 is a lot for the conversion kit and a few KS exclusives that aren't necessary/important for gameplay (else they would be in the game). For reference, the base game is £40 delivered in UK.


Well that is another lack of KS page. It does have EU friendly shipping logo, so VAT and handling fees should not be relevant (you shouldn't pay them), but it doens't confirm any of this in the main page, so is t really EU friendly.
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tmgergo wrote:
Badigel wrote:
Are the stretch goals KS exclusive?
Uhm, only the ones marked as 'Kickstarter Exclusive'.


Any idea about the "Oversized Scenario Cards" how much bigger than the non KS ones?
 
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And one can always add on the 2nd edition base game cards and rulebook, for $6 usa if wanted, to make sorting things out easier when switching expansions. But it's not necessary.
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hybry wrote:
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They have reduced shipping in Europe enough to make me strogly consider backing this
Sadly, it'll be over the UK's £15 trigger level for VAT, so it'll be $30 + VAT + "handling fee", so about £35 for the upgraded kit, or $60 + VAT + "handling fee" - about £60. Man, I wish they shipped from the EU!

I'm in at the moment, but £35 is a lot for the conversion kit and a few KS exclusives that aren't necessary/important for gameplay (else they would be in the game). For reference, the base game is £40 delivered in UK.


Well that is another lack of KS page. It does have EU friendly shipping logo, so VAT and handling fees should not be relevant (you shouldn't pay them), but it doens't confirm any of this in the main page, so is t really EU friendly.
Wow! I didn't spot the "EU friendly" badge - it's normally a bit more conspicuous! I just checked the KS for "Flight" and that shipped from inside the EU, so I expect that they'll use the same distribution system. Actually, looking at EU shipping costs, it looks as though they are probably shipping from a UK distribution centre. Oh man, now I am totally stoked! I might have to grab some addons
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Wow. I'm lucky that I live close to the border; $20 USD for shipping to Canada would be a deal-breaker otherwise. And that's even after North Star discounts the shipping.

With the dollar where it is right now, Canadians are looking at around $63 CAD for the conversion box, and around $105 for the stand-alone game (assuming the dollar doesn't fluctuate too much, which is a risky assumption). Wow again.
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Wow. I'm lucky that I live close to the border; $20 USD for shipping to Canada would be a deal-breaker otherwise. And that's even after North Star discounts the shipping.

With the dollar where it is right now, Canadians are looking at around $63 CAD for the conversion box, and around $105 for the stand-alone game (assuming the dollar doesn't fluctuate too much, which is a risky assumption). Wow again.


Woohoo - KS is live, popped up in my feed this morning. Easy auto back for me. So without reading the details too much I click to back.

$20 shipping to Canada surprise gulp shake soblue

Guess I'm not backing as that's crazy ridiculous and so I head to the forums to cry/whine!
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Backed! I have never played this game but the reviews and everyone here on BGG has been enough hype for me to back. The stand alone game and expansion for $55.00 is a solid deal!

Can't wait to try this out when it ships hopefully in August.
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I understand why shipping is so high to Canada but it kills the Kickstarter for me as well, especially with the state of our dollar. I would basically end up paying double (or more?) of what I would at retail.

I wonder if they shipped the games to somewhere like Snakes and Lattes like other Kickstarter games have done and had them handle the shipping inside Canada if that would reduce the price? Maybe they already are doing something like that though, I don't know.
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I have the base game + flight, but it might be worth getting climate + base since they can't be played together anyway.

hmm.
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Yeah, this page is confusing as hell.

So there's Evolution, Evolution Flight, Evolution Second Edition and Evolution Climate? And Flight only works with Evolution 1st Edition and not with Climate? And the 55$ pledge is Evolution 2nd + Climate? Is that right?

Also, no picture of the actual game is a HUGE red flag, get one up there ASAP
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sounds about right.
 
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mccrispy wrote:
hybry wrote:
mccrispy wrote:
hybry wrote:
They have reduced shipping in Europe enough to make me strogly consider backing this
Sadly, it'll be over the UK's £15 trigger level for VAT, so it'll be $30 + VAT + "handling fee", so about £35 for the upgraded kit, or $60 + VAT + "handling fee" - about £60. Man, I wish they shipped from the EU!

I'm in at the moment, but £35 is a lot for the conversion kit and a few KS exclusives that aren't necessary/important for gameplay (else they would be in the game). For reference, the base game is £40 delivered in UK.


Well that is another lack of KS page. It does have EU friendly shipping logo, so VAT and handling fees should not be relevant (you shouldn't pay them), but it doens't confirm any of this in the main page, so is t really EU friendly.
Wow! I didn't spot the "EU friendly" badge - it's normally a bit more conspicuous! I just checked the KS for "Flight" and that shipped from inside the EU, so I expect that they'll use the same distribution system. Actually, looking at EU shipping costs, it looks as though they are probably shipping from a UK distribution centre. Oh man, now I am totally stoked! I might have to grab some addons


I asked this morning to double check and they've updated the Kickstarter page, in the shipping section "Shipping is EU friendly and won't incur VAT/import duties"

/edit ....and it's funded! Congrats to the Evolution team!
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....and it's funded! Congrats to the Evolution team!


Wow. Fully funded in less than 10 hours!
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mrroza wrote:
It is my understanding that the standalone option includes the base game as well as everything you need for the Climate Expansion.

Not sure if I’m reading this right or not, but to clarify: the Stand-alone game is just that – it is Stand-Alone. Everything needed to play is included. It’s not the Base Game plus the expansion. There will be some similarities and carry-overs from the Base Game, but Climate will be fully self-contained.

Magic Pink wrote:
So there's Evolution, Evolution Flight, Evolution Second Edition and Evolution Climate?

Kind of. Yes, there’s Evolution (1st edition), but that is now defunct, having been replaced by Second Edition. Climate is going to be a stand-alone game using the Evolution game engine.

Magic Pink wrote:
And Flight only works with Evolution 1st Edition and not with Climate?

Partially true. Where you’re mistaken is that while Flight can work with 1st Edition, it is better suited for (made for) 2nd Edition. Again, Climate will be a stand-alone game.
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mccrispy wrote:
I just checked the KS for "Flight" and that shipped from inside the EU, so I expect that they'll use the same distribution system. Actually, looking at EU shipping costs, it looks as though they are probably shipping from a UK distribution centre.


They specifically say that they have switched to a single worldwide distributor; this is different from last time. This is an attempt to reduce/eliminate delays and lost/damaged product to non-US locations. Granted, this is stated very far down on the page, and the page is apparently evolving (ahem) this morning as we speak. But this also may explain the higher cost of shipping to some locations.

I am 99% sure I will back; I participated last time and had excellent results.
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