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Ding! End of round. Please retire to your corners.

travvller wrote:
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The response I got was the equivalent of me going to visit a group of African Americans and asking them about how they are mistreated by the police.

This question is equivalent to asking someone if they've stopped beating their wife. It presumes the answer that you are looking for. You get that, right?

That's not what happened and you are misrepresenting my words and the response to them.

Patrick, I understood what you meant, but you misworded slightly. (I'm sure subjectively, the slightness varies.) I've highlighted the problem phrase and bolded the problem clause. "How they are" should have been "have you ever been" and even then, I would back off further: start with asking their experiences with the store; then ask if they've had any problems; and only if they say they have, ask what the problems were.

The problem is that many interviewees want to make the interviewer happy, and by suggesting things you can actually implant them into memory. (Crazy but true; one of the fall-outs of the Innocence Project. Perception can get weird. Survey questioners work with very exact, written wording for just this reason: so the survey will be as fair--or biased--as they wish it to be.)

So, Symath interpreted your phrase exactly.

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To use your analogy, I would be asking, "Have you been beaten by your husband" and then told, "No, and not only that, women aren't beaten by their husbands."

That's what I understood, but I can't say how probable or improbably my interpretation is.

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Of course many women haven't experienced sexism in gaming. I know that. But the person who responded to me was trying to negate the entire purpose of the inquiry - to basically argue there is no problem.

I wasn't there. Perhaps what we have in both cases is a slight communication problem, unfortunately at a fracture line.

Symath: Patrick is trying to do the right thing. I believe his miswording was unintentional.
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Tall_Walt wrote:

Patrick, I understood what you meant, but you misworded slightly. (I'm sure subjectively, the slightness varies.) I've highlighted the problem phrase and bolded the problem clause. "How they are" should have been "have you ever been" and even then, I would back off further: start with asking their experiences with the store; then ask if they've had any problems; and only if they say they have, ask what the problems were.



Nicely said and well explained - thank you.
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travvller wrote:
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The response I got was the equivalent of me going to visit a group of African Americans and asking them about how they are mistreated by the police.


This question is equivalent to asking someone if they've stopped beating their wife. It presumes the answer that you are looking for. You get that, right?


That's not what happened and you are misrepresenting my words and the response to them.

To use your analogy, I would be asking, "Have you been beaten by your husband" and then told, "No, and not only that, women aren't beaten by their husbands."

Of course many women haven't experienced sexism in gaming. I know that. But the person who responded to me was trying to negate the entire purpose of the inquiry - to basically argue there is no problem.


I thought that the poster you are referring to responded in an extremely cogent way to your misinterpretation of her posts at the bottom of page 1 and that you ignored her response.

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I never said that there are no problems associated with being a woman, or that there is never a problem with sexism (I said that explicitly in my reply), I'm just saying don't conflate sexism with stores being crappy.

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This is why I usually don't post in these types of threads; every time I do, it feels like my validity of having a woman's experience is challenged because my experiences may be atypical.


I didn't see the response because I wasn't going to participate in a discussion in which I was getting bashed over and over for the entire thesis of my article.

That being said, having read it now I disagree with her characterization about crappy not being related to sexism.

The hobby is dominated by men. Mostly male clerks, male owners, male designers, male dominated publishers.

A huge number of stores are located in strip mall type locations with very little foot traffic, bad lighting and poor security. Some of the worst stores I've visited looked as if they were porn shops on the outside. These stores don't even remotely look safe to someone who doesn't know what's being sold there.

I visit these stores and I see no women. It doesn't take a PhD for me to see why.

And I'm NOT supposed to equate crappy with sexism? I'm sorry, but that woman who responded to me was negating one of the central points of my piece. Maybe she's lucky in that she's never been to one of these man caves. I have. And there have been times in which I didn't even feel safe there. These stores exist in lots of places, they tend to have huge inventories and lots of male customers.

The store that I think has been the epitome of a welcoming store for all customers is Diversions in Portsmouth, NH. I've corresponded with one of the owners about their store and its welcoming environment. And that owner was . . . a woman. It's not a coincidence.


A hobby dominated by males is probably dominated by males for many reasons.

Now to some of your complaints about stores in general. First of all, a brick and mortar store is not exactly pulling in Mega bucks. Seeing slummy looking stores is directly related to treading water financially. Second, MTG is primarily male. MTG also keeps a lot of little stores going. Third, man caves are used to describe rooms meant for watching sports primarily. You calling games stores man caves is just a nice way to give what you say a little more importance than the rest of us. Forth, many gamers ((people in general)(male and female)) do not shower enough for me. Drives me bonkers, and often times, I do not go into little stores because I assume that that problem exists in there. I am a white male, so I know I should be the one stinking in the first place, and this can basically be omitted. Lastly, you keep painting this broad paintbrush that being a white male is a detriment to game stores. Do yourself a favor and shove it. (Note, I had no intention of being welcoming to you with that last sentence.)

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I worked at a hardware store for several years, here are some insider observations.

Retail stores exist to sell things and make money. They cater to the wants and needs of those who spend the most money at the store. Unless the owner/manager says otherwise, making everyone who comes through the door feel welcome and treating everyone equally is both bad for business and logistically impossible.

The people who work there are often poorly paid and have no real incentive to provide basic customer service. Employees who do know what they are talking about tend to be the most harassed and tend to be short with customers.

It is up to the customer to get someones' attention and state what they want. If the employees' buddies are present, quiet or unfamiliar customers will probably get ignored.

All of this sounds horrible,(and it is) but it may help explain why people have the experiences they do. There are always exceptions but in my experience excellent customer service and great atmospheres are operating costs most business's can't afford.




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1. How many retail game stores have you visited in the last three years? An estimate is fine - 10


2. Where were these stores located? The state is fine but if you can include the city that would also be great. Also not necessary but helpful, feel free to name the stores specifically if you want. Houston, Dallas, Austin, TX


3. In your opinion as a woman, did the majority of these stores have an atmosphere that was A)hostile, B)not hostile, but certainly unwelcoming, C)Neutral, neither welcoming nor unwelcoming, or D)welcoming: to non-gamers, women especially? I hope this succinctly encompasses most perceptions. If none of these describe your experience then you can give a different answer than A through D. But please stick to these four choices if you can as it makes using the data much easier. I have experienced D always. I've never had a negative experience in any of the gaming stores that I've been to in Texas.


4. Are there any stores you'd like to shout out as examples of having good or bad atmosphere? For example, a store that was horrible and/or a store that was outstanding at welcoming non-gamers, women especially. Please give the store's name, city and state. If you can't remember the store's name then city and state will suffice. I will most definitely give a shout out to Bedrock Comic Book stores in Houston for being my rock and life force in comics and in gaming. I also would love to give a shout out to That Geek Life (also in Houston) which is a little house that got converted into a gaming store/play rooms area. Love Houston for its awesomeness.

5. Any comments you'd like to add that might be included in my article?
The establishments that I've visited don't feel like man caves when I've gone in. The people that work at each establishment have always gone out of their way to answer questions, greet me and make me feel like I can actually find something I am looking for. The stores have a set up ranging from serious gamers to people that are just getting into diff hobbies. The stores that I've been to have always been clean and well lit. All locations here in Houston that I've been to for gaming/comic books have always felt safe. I have some very good friends now thanks to these shops from them guiding me on what to read or play next.

Hope this helps.
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I'm not sure if you are still looking for experiences but I am a woman and this topic interests me.

I have been to four different game stores in my time as a gamer, and they are all located in my hometown. I have also been to Origins the past two years.

I can firmly tell you that at 3 out of 4 stores, I have never felt like an outsider. Of course there is the occasional staring/leering, but that happens everywhere.

Now... the forth store is a doozy. The owner of that store is extremely rude and made it very clear to me that I was not welcome in his store because he didn't believe I was interesting in buying. I was interested in buying, although I didn't have a particular game in mind. I was looking around their collection of games when he asked me if I was looking for anything in particular. I answered honestly, I wasn't. I was just looking at what they had. He replied to me, angrily "Well, you just keep looking, then". Well, I certainly wasn't in a buying mood anymore. My fiance was also milling around the store, but he didn't get bothered and insulted by the owner. Hmmm... I wonder what made me different? I should mention this is the worst gaming store I've ever been in. They don't really have any space for gaming, they have a bunch of tables wedged into their retail space, so when people are there playing games, you can't reach a lot of the product. Also, the store reeks. I mean it smells AWFUL.
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If you don't mind me answering for my wife (who is not a hardcore gamer, however will game with me 1-2 times a week):

1. How many retail game stores have you visited in the last three years? An estimate is fine.

>Probably around 20, always accompanying me.

2. Where were these stores located? The state is fine but if you can include the city that would also be great. Also not necessary but helpful, feel free to name the stores specifically if you want.

>Cedar Rapids, Iowa City, Des Moines, Ames, Dubuque, Madison, Chicago, Twin Cities, Overland Park, DC/Fairfax area, New York City, San Francisco

3. In your opinion as a woman, did the majority of these stores have an atmosphere that was A)hostile, B)not hostile, but certainly unwelcoming, C)Neutral, neither welcoming nor unwelcoming, or D)welcoming: to non-gamers, women especially? I hope this succinctly encompasses most perceptions. If none of these describe your experience then you can give a different answer than A through D. But please stick to these four choices if you can as it makes using the data much easier.

>For the most part, neutral. She only shopped (with me) and never gamed. Some she didn't like or felt slightly uncomfortable, some were nice, most were just stores like any other.

4. Are there any stores you'd like to shout out as examples of having good or bad atmosphere? For example, a store that was horrible and/or a store that was outstanding at welcoming non-gamers, women especially. Please give the store's name, city and state. If you can't remember the store's name then city and state will suffice.

>From her perspective, no store can be singled out good/bad. The main stores she liked were the ones which also sold puzzles, toys, books, etc, so she could also browse things for our kids. These were typically in the malls.

She didn't like being in the stores which smelled or seemed dirty/messy. A few of the stores in the cities listed had these issues.

5. Any comments you'd like to add that might be included in my article?

My main takeaway from her is to have clean organized unsmelly stores.
 
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1. How many retail game stores have you visited in the last three years? An estimate is fine.
Somewhere around 50 or more? I've lived in several places in the UK & Australia, and used to travel around the UK/Europe to work so I had time to fill in a lot of areas.

2. Where were these stores located? The state is fine but if you can include the city that would also be great. Also not necessary but helpful, feel free to name the stores specifically if you want.
UK: mostly Liverpool/Manchester/London.
Australia: Mostly the greater Brisbane area.

3. In your opinion as a woman, did the majority of these stores have an atmosphere that was A)hostile, B)not hostile, but certainly unwelcoming, C)Neutral, neither welcoming nor unwelcoming, or D)welcoming: to non-gamers, women especially? I hope this succinctly encompasses most perceptions.
B - I'm a trans woman who hangs around mostly with women (trans and cis) and while SOME stores have been great, like the majority of geek/nerd culture, being a non-norm non-man means a lot of glares/confused nervousness/kneejerk gatekeeping.

4. Are there any stores you'd like to shout out as examples of having good or bad atmosphere? For example, a store that was horrible and/or a store that was outstanding at welcoming non-gamers, women especially. Please give the store's name, city and state. If you can't remember the store's name then city and state will suffice.
I'll only name the good ones I've been to recently, but Presents of Mind (Red Hill, Brisbane, Queensland) & Vault Games (Brisbane City, Queensland) have been really lovely on a consistent basis, inviting me to events as a courtesy, showing me games I've asked about & recommending titles that aren't introductory games (no gatekeeping!), and the atmosphere and non-creepy welcomeness from staff have made me feel a ton better when any awful geeknerd cliches have bothered me.

5. Any comments you'd like to add that might be included in my article?
The greater atmosphere of nerd/geek culture seems to struggle with people not being "The Girlfriend". I'd not even appreciate being seen as my "Girlfriend's Girlfriend" yet in places where my partner has been seen as one-of-the-boys-not-like-other-girls unfortunately I've been met with that same level of blank embittered disdain. Women who work at game stores make me feel 500 times more comfortable as well, so I'll always support stores who are managed/owned/employ a variety of women.
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Retail game stores:
Uuuumm, four, I think........

Location:
Two in London and two in Stavanger/Sandnes (Norway)

Atmosphere:
Between C and D. For one of the local stores in Norway I would like to set up an E; Feeling like family - as I can come to them as I like, they work an online store out of their house, and they are my friends.

Good/bad:
I will shout out for Outland in Stavanger. It is looking really good now that they have been relocated to a bigger store. I can`t wait till next time I will visit it.
A bit of a low note for me is a store in London...Orc`s nest? Not bad in such, but so tight spaces, a bit poor lighting and maybe a bit difficult concentrating on finding a game you are looking for.

Other comments:
I have mostly felt welcomed in retail stores. The gaming community has developed a lot over the years, from when I started playing Magic! In Outland I have a subscription, and they recall my name, even though it is not an easy one, even in Norway! You are met positively when asking questions, and they take their time to help you out.
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Board_Game_Nerd wrote:

As for the HONEST employee, I'd rather have a real person giving me their honest opinion, not a fake, smiling individual who just wants you to buy the game and couldn't care less whether you enjoyed it or not.


I think a distinction needs to be drawn between an honest opinion that is sought and an honest opinion that is forced upon someone unasked.

If I go into a game shop and say, "I've heard of Game X and think I might like it, have you played it and is it any good?" then I am inviting the salesperson to say whatever they really think about the product.

If I go into the shop and say "I'd like to buy Game X, do you have it?" and they then say "Game X is rubbish, you should get something else." then all that's going to do is make me feel like the salesperson thinks I am an idiot.

In a game store (or any other kind of shop) the salesperson isn't there to make the customer feel small, stupid or to criticize them or their choices.
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The Survey

1. How many retail game stores have you visited in the last three years? An estimate is fine.
I've visited 3 retail game stores in that time.


2. Where were these stores located? The state is fine but if you can include the city that would also be great. Also not necessary but helpful, feel free to name the stores specifically if you want.
2 in NYC (Uncommons and Twenty Sided) and 1 in the Twin Cities, Minnesota (it was actually a book store with a good-sized game section, but they also have game-related events)


3. In your opinion as a woman, did the majority of these stores have an atmosphere that was A)hostile, B)not hostile, but certainly unwelcoming, C)Neutral, neither welcoming nor unwelcoming, or D)welcoming: to non-gamers, women especially? I hope this succinctly encompasses most perceptions. If none of these describe your experience then you can give a different answer than A through D. But please stick to these four choices if you can as it makes using the data much easier.

D. All three of the stores had a friendly and welcoming environment to me. I was a new gamer (almost a non-gamer) and a woman during my first visits to all three, so can't separate the two.


4. Are there any stores you'd like to shout out as examples of having good or bad atmosphere? For example, a store that was horrible and/or a store that was outstanding at welcoming non-gamers, women especially. Please give the store's name, city and state. If you can't remember the store's name then city and state will suffice.

Haven't experienced this yet.

5. Any comments you'd like to add that might be included in my article?

All three of the stores had female employees working there at the times of my visits, so I was even more comfortable "as a woman" in these spaces.
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I didn't read all the responses but I did notice other fellow Houstonians here with nice things to say about our gaming stores!

1. About 10

2. 3rd Coast Cards (Katy, TX), Asgard Games (Houston, TX), Heroes Collectibles (Houston, TX), Third Planet (Houston, TX), Geek Life (Houston, TX). Maybe 1-2 more in Houston? Labyrinth Games (Washington, DC)

3. C or D in all cases. Mostly Ds.

4. Shout out to the staff at Asgard, 3rd Coast, Geek Life, and Labyrinth. They are always friendly, helpful, and very welcoming.

5. If I walk into a game store I've never been to, and there's 30 men sitting or standing around tables playing games and zero women, I'm going to be slightly on my guard. I can't really help it. It's going to feel like they are watching me, even if it's maybe 3 or 4 men who look up and then return their attention back to their game. I'm sure a man who goes to a yoga class that includes 30 women and zero men will feel something similar. It's a feeling of being out of place. I know it's no fault of the store that their clientele is almost entirely one gender.

What's interesting is that if a single female employee is at the counter, suddenly I'm comfortable. That's the case in about 3 of the board game stores I've listed above. Also I've been to enough events at Asgard and gotten to know enough people there that it feels like my FLGS. Also it's popular enough so that I'm not the only woman in the room, most nights.

There have been one or two incidents that could be construed as sexism while I was playing games in a game store, but it's always been caused by another customer, never a store employee.

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2 in NYC (Uncommons and Twenty Sided)
Hey so glad you mentioned this as I have never heard of Twenty Sided and it looks great!
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1. How many retail game stores have you visited in the last three years?

FOUR


2. Where were these stores located? The state is fine but if you can include the city that would also be great. Also not necessary but helpful, feel free to name the stores specifically if you want.

I am in Houston, TX

1- NW Houston, Fat Ogre but they kicked out the board gamers. -B
2- NE Houston, Swords and Super Heroes, but it's sociology experiment.-B
3- Dallas/FortWorth.. it was by the airport... it was okay! -D
4- NE Houston. 1960 and 59, Ettin Games and Hobbies. They provide a Board Game Library for a lot of local conventions and around TX.conventions. They are small but a great group of people.-D


3. In your opinion as a woman, did the majority of these stores have an atmosphere that was ....

For the most part D! NOTE comments above.


4. Are there any stores you'd like to shout out as examples of having good or bad atmosphere? For example, a store that was horrible and/or a store that was outstanding at welcoming non-gamers, women especially. Please give the store's name, city and state. If you can't remember the store's name then city and state will suffice.

For the most part... you get a greeting coming through the door. I think it is how you are treated after that. The atmosphere is also VERY important to me as a woman. CLUTTER, dirty bathrooms and an employees more interesting in gaming rather then running the Shop are a HUGE turn off to me. Swords and Super Heroes.

Fat Ogre, was welcoming and had great staff and was clean.BUT... The management decided that board gamers didnt bring in enough income. They kicked us out as a whole a few years ago. So, I found a better shop which had newly opened up closer to home. Rumors are they let boardgamers in again. To late for me!

Ettin is a very welcoming place. It's clean. It has a library for board gamers. They know you buy name once you've been there 2-3 times. It's a great shop.

5. Any comments you'd like to add that might be included in my article?

I think if a retailer wants to create a welcoming atmosphere it's totally within there control. It just takes a little effort.

I've had a few problems with guys at the shop. I usually call them on out on and it stops. Most are nice about it.

If it were to go past that, I know the staff and owners will step in and back me up. I know that if it is late and I asked ANY guy/gals at the shop to walk me to my car they would. I know that if my car broke down any of them would be more than willing to lend a hand or drive me home.

It isnt just about buying and selling games. It's about building a community. It's about wanting to return to a pleasant experience. Most importantly it's about having a safe comfortable place to HAVE FUN!


GAMING GOAT... NW Houston is one I'd like to visit. They have good pricing. By the time I pay for gas there and back I am not sure I'd save much. Also, it's SMALL so as a place to play it wont be it. I'd hate to make the drive then not have room to play. That being said... I've heard wonderful things about it. I will go there at some point soon I am sure.

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There have been one or two incidents that could be construed as sexism while I was playing games in a game store, but it's always been caused by another customer, never a store employee.


Did any store employees do something to intervene? Or was there no need?
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mamapapillon wrote:
dejadee wrote:
There have been one or two incidents that could be construed as sexism while I was playing games in a game store, but it's always been caused by another customer, never a store employee.


Did any store employees do something to intervene? Or was there no need?


There was no need. This may have happened more than once: a player made an off-color joke, noticed my reaction, and didn't make any more jokes like that. The only incident I remember clearly was when a older man offered to walk me to my car because, to him, it wasn't safe for me to be walking alone at night. Never mind the fact that he was a complete stranger to me, so why should I feel any safer walking alone with him! I politely refused, and when he insisted, I said that my husband and I were meeting up afterwards (total lie). That seemed to satisfy him.
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Maryland - 3 Gaming Stores
I"ve visited abut six to eight game stores in the past three years. Here are the three I have visited the most.

The main store I shop at is Games and Stuff in Glen Burnie, MD.
The staff here is excellent in every way. They alway have multiple staffers on the floor so my inquires are always answered quickly. I am welcomed every time I walk in the store and the staff is always eager to assist. They treat everyone who comes into their establishment with the same respect. They have a huge back room for lots of gaming space.
I would rate them A++.

A close runner up is Third Eye Game and Hobbies in Annapolis, MD.
Though one staffer recommended a monopoly type game when I first walked in, his recommendations changed after we talked and he could see I was a more serious gamer. They usually only have one employee on staff and many of their games are really high and out of reach. The staff is always willing to get items off a shelf for me. They provide detailed descriptions etc. I prefer for all games to be within reach so I can browse at my leisure.
I would rate them a solid A.

Lastly, in our area is Card Board Gaming in Odenton, MD.
This store has odd hours and most days when my friends or I drop by they are closed. I have yet to figure out their hours. The game selection is really small and their staff is usually playing games when I enter the store. Sometimes they offer to help me other times they don't. I feel as if I am interrupting the staff from their gaming - woops, I am.
I would rate them a C.
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Funny (nah, not really, I'm being sarcastic) how even men notice the difference in treatment once their girlfriend is affected by special attention and creepy behaviour:
Re: Who Else Feels that FLGS are Not For Them and Why?
Don't go there if you don't want to read crappy "it's all the woman's fault for sending the wrong message" type of comments - you have been warned.
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I live in a small town in Wisconsin, so I have to travel to other cities nearby to find game stores. Madison and Janesville are the biggest. There are several stores in Madison: Misty Mountain Games, I Am Board Resale and Consignment, Netherworld Games, and Pegasus Games. In Janesville: Noble Knight Games. Finally, in Fort Atkinson: Planet Chaos.
I have to say that I have never run into any overt hostility at any of these stores. Several of the stores are owned and run by women or married couples.
I have had the experience of having a clerk focus on my husband (who isn't the gamer, he's just there to make sure I don't max out the credit card) instead of me (the gamer). Wasn't he surprised when my husband just stared at him and I started talking about the newest expansion that I was looking for! He then refocused on me. No big deal.
I have never been in a store that seemed more "male-oriented" or unfriendly to women.
Several of the stores have gaming rooms, but I have yet to attend an event, so I cannot comment on that sort of situation.

Comment: Because the stereo-typical "gamer geek" is an introverted, socially inept guy who never dates, many of them have difficulty speaking to women and might feel more comfortable talking to a man. Which would be another reason I bring the husband along. And before anybody gets their nose out of joint, I am an introverted, socially inept "gamer geek". I just happen to be a woman who got very lucky in finding a really wonderful guy to marry so I no longer have to embarrass myself trying to figure out what guys are trying to say.
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1. How many retail game stores have you visited in the last three years? An estimate is fine.

None, I usually buy online. The last time I bought a game at a physical store was like 5 years ago, at Target. Also, there's only 2 places in my city that sell board games. Hobby board games.

2. Where were these stores located? The state is fine but if you can include the city that would also be great. Also not necessary but helpful, feel free to name the stores specifically if you want.

I live in México, board gaming here is almost unheard of. This past year people have been slowly getting into the hobby, but is still largely unknown. Because of that, there are very few places to buy games, and are often too expensive. In my city, there's only 2 stores that sell hobby board games, so most of the people buy them online or through Facebook.

3. In your opinion as a woman, did the majority of these stores have an atmosphere that was A)hostile, B)not hostile, but certainly unwelcoming, C)Neutral, neither welcoming nor unwelcoming, or D)welcoming: to non-gamers, women especially? I hope this succinctly encompasses most perceptions. If none of these describe your experience then you can give a different answer than A through D. But please stick to these four choices if you can as it makes using the data much easier.

One of the 2 stores in my city is actually a Board Game Cafe, they sell just a small number of games, and most of their games are for playing in site. I don't go to the other, ao I can only say about the cafe, and I'll say is "D": they're welcoming to all people who want to play. No one specially above others, they always welcome anyone and everyone that comes to the store.

4. Are there any stores you'd like to shout out as examples of having good or bad atmosphere? For example, a store that was horrible and/or a store that was outstanding at welcoming non-gamers, women especially. Please give the store's name, city and state. If you can't remember the store's name then city and state will suffice.

Same as last question, the cafe is in México (in the city of Mexicali), so I don't know if this would help you.

5. Any comments you'd like to add that might be included in my article?

If you need to know, my situation is a little different. I'm a transgender woman, and as such I'm in a little more vulnerable group. I always go to the cafe, instead of the other place, because they received me without regard of who I am. Even better, almost every other client of the cafe respects me, and several accept me as I am.
If you ask any other woman that have gone to the cafe, they will tell you the same, we all feel safe there, we all can go there and game all night and have a great time.




I hope this helps with your article.
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