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C. J. Robinson
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My family really enjoys this game, but I don't like the lack of symetry in the manner that the tiles are initailly set up, i.e. 8 rows of alternating lines of 7 and 8 tiles. Since there are 60 tiles, I will often set them up in 7 rows of 9-8-9-8-9-8-9. I suspect that perhaps this is so obvious that it is commonly done by many players; thus explaining why I haven't seen it suggested as a variant.
 
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We usually just shove them all together randomly.
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Palladin wrote:
My family really enjoys this game, but I don't like the lack of symetry in the manner that the tiles are initailly set up, i.e. 8 rows of alternating lines of 7 and 8 tiles. Since there are 60 tiles, I will often set them up in 7 rows of 9-8-9-8-9-8-9. I suspect that perhaps this is so obvious that it is commonly done by many players; thus explaining why I haven't seen it suggested as a variant.


I must be dense... how is your set-up more symmetrical?
 
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skrebs wrote:
I must be dense... how is your set-up more symmetrical?


Look again:

8:7:8:7:8:7:8:7

9:8:9:8:9:8:9

The second one is symetrical around the middle row. It starts and ends with the same number. I can see the symmetry point, but not sure if I would bother changing from the suggested set up.
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Palladin wrote:
My family really enjoys this game, but I don't like the lack of symetry in the manner that the tiles are initailly set up, i.e. 8 rows of alternating lines of 7 and 8 tiles. Since there are 60 tiles, I will often set them up in 7 rows of 9-8-9-8-9-8-9. I suspect that perhaps this is so obvious that it is commonly done by many players; thus explaining why I haven't seen it suggested as a variant.


I should try that next time. I also want to try it with the tiles set up in a hexagon pattern, like a Settlers or Viktory II board.
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unixrevolution wrote:
I should try that next time. I also want to try it with the tiles set up in a hexagon pattern, like a Settlers or Viktory II board.



Now THAT would be interesting to try. Except you would be one tile short, unless you started with a whole in the very center.



[Edit: A "whole" in the center? HA!! I meant a "hole", of course...]
 
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I went to the BGG site on Viktory II(looks like a game that would interest me)and I liked the suggestion of the hexagon shape to begin play. As was pointed out a "61*" tile is needed. A suggestion, borrowing from Settlers of Catan, the Fishing Variant, would be to create a homemade tile with a picture of a boot, which could be valued at 0 or even minus 1 point, thereby creating some tension, i.e. Do I take the worthless tile to cut off an opponent or not?
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The most common setup I use is the 7-8-7-8-7-8-7-8 one with a slight modification:

I remove the four outside pieces from the final 8 row (two from each side) and reposition them against the middle of the opposite 7 row.

That way, you get 4-7-8-7-8-7-8-7-4 which looks nice and symmetrical:

O O O O
O O O O O O O
O O O O O O O O
O O O O O O O
O O O O O O O O
O O O O O O O
O O O O O O O O
O O O O O O O
O O O O

(Incidentally, this isn't an original idea of mine, but of another poster here on BoardGameGeek (whose name I can't remember).)
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Of course it does.
Just because the shape of the whole thing is symmetrical doesn't mean the fish-tiles are also symmetrically aligned.
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A hexagon (5 hexes per side) with empty center hex is a very symmetrical setup that has become our default. (I saw it suggested somewhere in the forums here.)
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Why is symmetrical important. A non-symmetrical board adds variation to the strategy. What's more, once penguins are placed, symmetry is broken
 
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CrankyPants wrote:
Why is symmetrical important. A non-symmetrical board adds variation to the strategy. What's more, once penguins are placed, symmetry is broken


Before penguins it's broken, I'd argue. The fish-distribution ruins the effective symmetry of the board layout.
 
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From a gameplay point of view, symmetry of the setup arrangement is meaningless.

But because so many people whine about how long the setup takes them to do, perhaps a pleasing symmetric arrangement provides at least some aesthetic compensation.

(I don't think the setup takes too long at all; I can do it easily in under 2 minutes by myself, faster if a second person helps. But I still like the pleasing aesthetics of the symmetrical hole-y hexagon...)
 
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