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John Wellman
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I’ve owned Cuba Libre for a while but finally got my first 4 human player game in yesterday. While I don’t mind the Syndicate when playing two players, two factions, they seem quite a bit less interesting than the other factions for my group when played alone.

I’m interested in trying another game (or games) in the series, but I’d like to understand which ones seem most balanced for the full compliment of human players. Likewise which ones have 4 equally involved factions.

Disclaimer, I may just not have enough experience to understand what makes the Syndicate equally interesting. Any pointers on this are appreciated as well. For instance, I was thinking about going 3 player and botting the Syndicate so nobody gets the disappointment of playing them.
 
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Kevin Walsh
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I wouldn't recommend botting the Syndicate, because it's so easy for the Government to rob them when there's no threat of revenge.
 
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Brian Berg Asklev Hansen
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The syndicate faction is the most indirect of all factions in the modern COIN games, so any other modern coin game would have more immediately interesting faction.
However, I feel the Syndicate factions is very fun to play but it does require a drastically different mindset than any of the other factions
 
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There's no question in my mind that Fire in the Lake seems like the game that COIN was made for. Four truly separate, powerful factions with different but overlapping interests, and each pair of two is genuinely aligned with each other, but also genuinely divergent in some of their interests.

The historical events are also cool because of all the associated photographs that are available.

I think I had more fun playing Falling Sky, but Fire in the Like is the preeminent 4-player COIN example for me.
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brian asklev aursen wrote:
The syndicate faction is the most indirect of all factions in the modern COIN games, so any other modern coin game would have more immediately interesting faction.
However, I feel the Syndicate factions is very fun to play but it does require a drastically different mindset than any of the other factions
I only played CL once, and I played the Syndicate, and I almost won by simply lurking in the background and raking in the cash (iirc). I lost the game by 1-2 points, and only because the other 3 players suddenly realized they were in big trouble!

The Syndicate is cool if you like to watch the other player's drama sweep back and forth across the map, which I do. It may be hard to play, but I have a feeling it's also hard to play against, given an experienced player.
 
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Jari Kemppainen
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mtngrown wrote:
The Syndicate is cool if you like to watch the other player's drama sweep back and forth across the map, which I do. It may be hard to play, but I have a feeling it's also hard to play against, given an experienced player.
I think winning is easiest by playing the Syndicate in CL. However, it is the least wanted faction to me because it's lacking the interaction.
 
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I certainly have not played all of the COIN games, but I am currently working through A Distant Plain solo, and I am really impressed with the balancing and interactions of the factions in this one.
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Fading Captain wrote:
I certainly have not played all of the COIN games, but I am currently working through A Distant Plain solo, and I am really impressed with the balancing and interactions of the factions in this one.
Only one game of that so far, but I had the same feeling.
 
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David Hubbard
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I have played the first three volumes (AA, CL and DP) a few times, and feel that each has one faction that is rather under-developed and uninteresting to play, and that is always the green faction (Cartel, Syndicate or Warlords). If playing 4-player, and drawing for faction, I think my heart would always sink a little if I draw the greens. I have only played FitL once, and that was an incomplete game and over a year ago. However, I sense that the earlier poster who said this is the first COIN game with four genuinely interesting, powerful factions is probably right.
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