I know it's a ton of work already and it's very wishful thinking, but I'd really love to see some "classic" GameNight maybe alternating with the current one that is mostly new games. Maybe now that Lincoln works for BGG there is a chance for an episode like this once in a while?
Prof. of mathematics and lover of history. Trying to get my kids interested in board games. Knizia fan (own about 100 of his games). Worked at the National Univ. of Singapore for 22 years and spent 8 years at UC Berkeley. Love Irish history
I loved this show! Lots of my favorite games, and some games I have avoided until now, but that I will take another look at now. I hate the cult of the new among certain segments of BGG. Good to see many Knizia games on the list!
Wow, excellent video! This discussion is extremely helpful for relative newcomers to the industry who might not have firsthand experience with the games mentioned. I feel like I have a much deeper understanding of Knizia's work and how it affected so many genres in very profound ways.
I will definitely be doing some more research on a few of the listed titles, but for the most part I am happy to play the games descended from this list. It was really cool to discover how King Ludwig is related to Vegas Showdown, etc.
I recommend this video for any fellow rookies who want to learn their board game history. Thanks so much for this video!!
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Definitely a great video. You don't see a game played but you follow a nice long conversation about the games that still get a special place in our minds and memories after 10+ years. It's worth watching it not only if you want to see if these guys share the same impressions about a game as you do but also if you want to know a little more about some games that passed under your radar.
This was cool. As someone who only got into the hobby really in late 2014 and joined BGG early 2015, I don't have as much appreciation for as many old games. That said, I could make a list of five games from 2007 and before that I really enjoy. I think it would be:
1. Brass 2. Chicago Express/Wabash Cannonball 3. 18xx (if I had to pick a favorite from pre-2007 I think it would be 1861, but I definitely have limited experience with that one. Admittedly I'm pretty much a novice to the system overall. 1830 still definitely holds up as well.) 4. Tigris and Euphrates 5. Tichu
And as an honorable mention, I really think Siena does some cool things, but it's just too rough around the edges for it to be a game that I'd want to go back to over and over.
And honestly, as a newer person I definitely still prefer the modern style euro first and foremost, but making this list and seeing your lists does make me appreciate the past a bit more.
Great seeing Aldie there and and some remarkable insight: "Settlers of Catan changed my life, BGG might not have begun without Settlers." Also great comments about Caylus and Tigrus & Euphrates. I got into Euro games in the late 90's and I will never forget the impact of Settlers (now Catan), Elfenland, and others. These (and now about 200 games later) have brought along great friends I have made along with memories I will always treasure.
In a way, for me, this was a nostalgic trip. Being age 61, a lot of young people can't remember life befor the Euro games - originally called German style games.
My list would include: 1. Power Grid 2. Puerto Rico 3. Settlers of Catan 4. Caylus 5. Elfenland (2nd euro game) 6. Formula De (1st game that was not American, not sure it would be considered a Euro) 7. Age of Steam 8. Agricola 9. Hermagor (under the radar but has best bidding system of all time, area control, pickup & delivery, and stock manipulation. Everyone ought to play this once at least). 10. El Grande - like the Rose Bowl, the Granddaddy of them all.
It was particularly interesting to hear so many of my favorites brought up. Though - I'm amused to note that 20 of my 21 favorite games would actually qualify, and I'd only have to go as far as my #41 game overall to reach 30 titles.
FWLIW, my top 20 from 2007 or before:
1 Die Siedler von Catan 2 Bridge 3 2038 4 Advanced Civilization 5 Merchant of Venus 6 1846 7 Saint Petersburg 8 Res Publica 9 Frisch Fisch 10 Race For the Galaxy 11 Euphrat & Tigris 12 Thebes 13 Schnäppchen Jagd 14 Ticket To Ride 15 Bohnanza 16 La Città 17 Sextet 18 Acquire 19 Africa 20 Canal Mania
Nice to see 10 of my 20 get some mention...
Edit: Since Tom mentioned the idea of games being retired - none of these is retired for me; I've played all of them at least once every one of the past seven years; the one I've likely played least is Advanced Civilization, and I've played it 10 times the last seven years.
I was born '79. (Bear with me; this is background info only to introduce some honorable mentions!) I grew up playing mass market games (mostly crap, but some great stuff like Stratego, HeroQuest, and Clue Museum Caper). I discovered Magic: The Gathering in '93 and played for a couple of years, but teenage distractions kept me from getting in too deep. I was introduced to Settlers of Catan in 2002/2003 and there was no looking back.
As I explored new games over the next few years, it is this period of '96-'07 that is exactly what I was exploring. It is this period that is still the Golden Age to me. Knizia is still king. So I guess it's no surprise that I loved this conversation.
For what it's worth, here's my Top 20 Modern Board Game Classics 2007 and Earlier. There's a lot of overlap with the lists in the video, but also a few unique titles that reflect my own interests (specifically, there are more abstracts here; and the Gipf series should get an honorable mention as well!) I could easily add another 20 worthy games, but I feel pretty good about these. They're all absolute favorites of mine.