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You do not have to read the complete Official Rules, but are required to comply with all rules whether you have read them or not.

If you have no idea what a Math Trade is: It's a way to trade a whole bunch of games by chaining together everybody's available games and matching them to what each person wants. A computer algorithm ensures fairness and removes risk: you can only get a game you prefer over what you are offering. (Otherwise, you just keep your original game.) For more info, see Math Trades.

Incentive Bounties: Frequently, tips are given to the people that moderate Math Trades. If this MT accumulates any tips, 100% of such tips will be awarded to others.
1. Delivering the Goods Bounty: Of the total tipped, I am going to give 1/3 to the MT participant that traded the most items that were actually requested on the Request List.
2. MVP Bounty: Of the total tipped, I am going to give 1/3 to the MT participant who traded the single most wanted item.
3. ToolTime Bounty: Of the total tipped, I am going to split 1/3 between [userid=cokasaki] and [userid=JeffyJeff].
4. Super-Dee-Duper Bonus Bounty: I will give 8 GG to every single participant that offers AND subsequently trades at least one game that is rated #1 on my Wishlist.
5. Last Chance Bounty: I'm going to give away one of my games offered in this MT that does not trade to somebody that adds it to their Want List.
6. Hidden Gem Offer Bounty: The offer that had the most interesting color commentary and whose color commentary was the most likely to induce other participants to consider reading the blurb, researching the item described, and adding the item to Want Lists will be awarded enough to buy an avatar (and potentially also a microbadge).
7. Don't Tell My Spouse Bounty: The person that offers AND subsequently trades the highest total amount of Gift Cards will receive enough to buy an avatar (I cannot remember how much that is).


Who:
This will be a CONUS-only MT. (Technically it will be open to anybody in the world that can receive shipments to a US address (I do know that there are some folks that live outside the US but travel to the US for work and/or can use a US address to receive packages)). The following additional restrictions apply:
1 Literacy Matters: You must be literate and able to read at the 5th grade level or above and you must agree to read the full text of offers posted and not just look at the pretty picture(s) associated with the offers or the colorful tags inside the Online Want List Generator (OLWLG). The pictures and tags are a great place to start, but there will be no sympathy for you if a description is clearly written but you make a mistake because you did not pay attention to the description.
If this level of personal accountability is not acceptable to you, please do not enter this particular MT, but rather wait for the next one that may not require as much personal accountability.
2 You must subscribe to the Discussion Thread or you are prohibited. And you must commit to check your email/geekmail, the OLWLG, and the MT Discussion Thread at least daily after you offer at least one item for trade. Otherwise, you are prohibited.
3 If you have been reported as a bad trader, then you are prohibited unless you comply with the Bad Trader Redemption Plan.
4 By posting an item in this math trade, you agree to abide by the rules specific to this particular MT and you agree to honor your commitments regardless of whether or not you feel you made an error to your detriment.
5 If you have never shipped any games as a result of previous MTs (i.e. newbie), you are restricted to posting no more than two (2) offers to this MT. It is also advised that you only post offers of smaller items. (And be careful if you plan to use Duplicate Protection or the Copies option).
6 You MUST use a CONUS (sorry AK & HI) shipping address to participate in this MT.


How:
Overall Guidance/Theme: Many MTs have a "shopping at the ZippyMart" vibe. Users run in, (scan the OLWLG colored tags), grab a gallon of their favorite brand of milk and bolt. This MT may have more of a "shopping at a bazaar" vibe. Participants are encouraged to provide some color commentary with their offers and add comments which may help other participants to uncover a hidden gem (however, this does not, in any way, invalidate the mandatory requirement to provide accurate data in the descriptions).

Request Geeklist: In addition to the main Offer Geeklist, there is a secondary (totally optional) Request Geeklist where you can ask for things that you would like other people to offer. You do not have to enter anything on the Request Geeklist to participate in this trade. Even if you request an item on the Request Geeklist, you are still not obligated to add that item to your Want List (but why would you request it if you do not want it?). You may not post offers to the Offer GeekList for items that you have listed on the Request GeekList.

Offer Posting Instructions:
>1> When you post an offer for an item (with or without sweeteners) do not substitute, split, change, downgrade, denigrate, degrade, or delete an offered main item or any sweeteners once they are posted (see rules for how to handle changes).
>2> In addition to any (optional) color commentary, you must provide accurate details on condition (box and components), language, edition/publisher, and any other important pertinent data for every offered item (including sweeteners). (Feel free to use this Offer Template). This requirement is basically the same for all MTs. However, this MT may differ from most because, for this MT, everyone is required to actually read the descriptions and base decisions on the text in the descriptions (literacy matters).
>3> If there is ever any ambiguity or inconsistency between the text in the description and anything else associated with the offer, (picture, altname, OLWLG colors, etc., etc., etc.), the text will be considered to be controlling. So triple check to make sure that your text is accurate when you post an offer. You will be required to deliver what you described even if it is to your detriment. If your description is incomplete or inaccurate, you will be required to deliver what the receiver is expecting even if it is to your detriment. While literacy matters, you may not use your description to negate the MT rules (i.e. you may not use descriptive text to negate the rule requiring the offerer to cover the full cost to ship to CONUS).
>4> For any PC/video games offered, in addition to any (optional) color commentary and details on condition (box and components), language, and edition/publisher, you MUST also provide at least the following additional details: Platform/OpSys, Registration status, Media type, and whether a box and manual are included.
>5> For games not in shrink you must inventory the game's components and ensure that the game is complete. Do not assume it's complete even if you got it in a previous MT.
>6> For any game offered that is not complete, you must specify what is included in the offer. Make sure your description is accurate. You might also want to explicitly list what is not included in the offer.
>7a> See "Sweeteners" or "Bundles" for additional instructions if you want to offer more than one item (i.e. multiple games) in one entry. (Strongly encouraged as it helps to mitigate shipping costs).
>7b> See "Alternatives" or "Picks" for additional instructions if you want to offer a choice from a list of multiple items in one entry. (i.e. Choose n games from the list of y games).
>7c> While commentary in the offer is welcome, please do NOT insert BGG game links or [THING] / [GAMEID] tags to other games in your entry unless you are actually including the additional game as part of your multiple-item offer because they are displayed in a misleading manner by the OLWLG. However, pictures/images are OK as they do not cause this problem in the OLWLG. And Tinyurl links are also not a problem for OLWLG. Always use language in your offer description that accurately describes what you are offering.
>8> While the description text is key, please choose an appropriate picture to accompany your offer.
>9> Although it is not really much of a question anymore, there is no limit on the number of offers that an individual can make, there is no limit on the total number of offers that can be included in this Math Trade as whole, and there are no restrictions on the duplication of offers.
>10> Each participant is requested to tip one GeekGold for each entry that they post on the Offer GeekList. Obviously, this action is totally voluntary. But I hope that you will comply with this request. Remember that all GG tipped will be disbursed to promote the success of the MT.
>11> Use of the phrase "as pictured" in your offer description is strictly prohibited. Use of this phrase has caused more problems in math trades than anything else.

MT Want List Submission Instructions:
-1- The OLWLG is required. (please remember to tip JeffyJeff some GG for his support).
-2- GC and arbitrage are prohibited. The moderator reserves the right to nullify ALL Want Lists of arbitrageurs, but may only nullify the specific Want Lists with arbitrage.
-3- Assume that everybody in the MT (except you) chose the wrong picture and that the offer description text is the only part of the offer that you can rely on.
-4- Remember that there will be no sympathy for you if an offer description is clearly written but you make a mistake because you did not pay attention to the description.

Software Used: TradeMaximizer 1.4 (please remember to tip cokasaki some GG for his support) with Duplicate Protection and the following settings:
#! ITERATIONS=55
#! SEED=17
#! LINEAR-PRIORITIES
#! SMALL-STEP=5
#! ALLOW-DUMMIES
#! REQUIRE-COLONS
#! REQUIRE-USERNAMES

Shipping: The Sender must pay the FULL shipping costs including delivery confirmation or tracking number (minus any insurance costs which are responsibility of receiver but only if the receiver chooses to have package insured). See Shipping Details.


What:
The following items are permitted:
A 18xx train games, wargames, and other board games (including Tanga/B&N Clearance/Thrift store games), card games, and RPGs: Are allowed.
B PC/Video games: Are allowed. However, you MUST provide, at least, the following details: Platform/OpSys, Registration status, Media type, and whether a box or manual are included.
C CCGs: Are allowed. (You may find that you maximize your chance for a trade if you consolidate your CCG offerings into large groups of cards. A USPS fixed-rate box will hold at least 2,000 cards).
D Print & Play and Unpublished Prototype games: Are allowed. However, any offer in this category must be for a game that is fully complete/playable and of superior construction quality. You MUST exhaustively detail the exact condition, components, and production process.

In addition, the following other items are permitted (but require the use of an altname tag):
Note that for items in each of the categories listed below you MUST provide a detailed description of exactly what you are offering and the condition. And, for these items you MUST also insert a special tag at the end of your description using the following format: "+altname+ your-abbreviated-name -altname-".
E DVD's (especially TV seasons), software, comic books, graphic novels, CDs, and paperbacks (especially SciFi): Are allowed and must be listed as Outside the Scope of BGG.
F Gift cards & gift certificates: Are allowed (either as main offered items or as sweeteners). However, minimum amount for main offers of GCs must be at least $15 (GC Sweeteners can be for less). GC offers must be listed as Outside the Scope of BGG.
G GeekGold: Is allowed. However, participants are limited to one (1) entry (main offer) that is an offer of (but you may use the Copies feature of OLWLG). And minimum offered must be at least 200 . Unlimited sweeteners of can be offered and in any amount. offers must be listed as Outside the Scope of BGG.
H Miscellaneous Game Accessory (such as expansion cards handed out at Essen), Miscellaneous Game Books, and Miscellaneous Game Magazines: Are allowed.
I Miniatures: Are allowed. For any minis that do not have a unique entry in the BGG database, please list all these entries as Miscellaneous Miniatures Game Accessory. (You might want to consider grouping your miniatures into lots).
J Outside the Scope of BGG: Any other non-BGG item not specifically listed above--You must contact the moderator first for permission to add anything else, and these items must be listed as Outside the Scope of BGG; only items with substantial geek value will be allowed.

The following items are PROHIBITED:
X Clothing, Cash, and Body Parts


Where:
Official Rules and Discussion Thread -- You should immediately click the Subscribe link for this thread.
Discussion Thread for Whiners -- If you understand, but do not like any of the rules, then please post your comment here.
Offer Geeklist
Request Geeklist
OLWLG Instructions
OLWLG Tool
OWlito -- Tool to check the entire row or entire column in OLWLG. (Firefox)
CheckBoxMate -- Tool to check multiple boxes via dragging mouse. (Firefox)
Easy Check, Checkboxer, Check Range -- Tool to check multiple boxes. (Chrome)
Explanation of how Trade Maximizer works
Post-MT stats and interesting factoids:


When:
Request List is Opened:................................... (Friday) 07-Oct at 08:00 CT (approximate)

Request List is Opened:................................... (Tuesday) 11-Oct at 18:00 CT (approximate)

(Shifted due to other MT scheduled on top of this one)

Offer Submission Period is Opened:........................ (Friday) 14-Oct at 08:00 CT (approximate)
Offer Submission Period is Closed:........................ (Thursday) 20-Oct at 22:15 CT

Want List Submission Period is Opened:.................... (Thursday) 20-Oct at 22:30 CT (approximate)
Want List Submission Period is Closed:.................... (Sunday) 23-Oct at 19:00 CT

Preliminary Official Results will be posted:.............. (Sunday) 23-Oct at 20:00 CT (approximate)
Issues with Preliminary Results MUST be surfaced by:...... (Sunday) 23-Oct by 23:00 CT
Official Results will be Declared Final:.................. (Monday) 24-Oct between 08:00 and 10:00 CT

Moderator reserves the right to change dates/times at his discretion up until the Offer Submission period starts--at which point all dates and times will be locked down.

Please ship games before 11/1 or let your receiver know when to expect your shipment.


Other Important Notes That Did Not Fit Above:
Note: Only errors by the moderator will invalidate any results once published. If there is a problem after the results are posted, at most, it will only invalidate the affected trade chain(s) and not the entire results set. In addition, if the problem can be resolved by the most directly affected party or parties, then that is perfectly acceptable.

By posting an item in this MT, you agree to abide by the guidelines specific to this particular math trade. The moderator reserves the right to blank (nullify) want lists for any participant for any disruptive behavior. The moderator has final say on all decisions regarding questions with this math trade. If you do not agree to these terms, then please pass on this MT.

If you have any general questions please do NOT click the Post Comment link at the bottom of the GeekList, but rather ask in the Discussion Thread.
However, for questions on individual offered GL items, please feel free to add comments to individual geeklist items (but again do not add general comments to the geeklist itself). You may also add a comment to an individual GeekList item to express your interest in an item. You may also feel free to "thumb" the item to also express your interest.

At the end of the day, all these MT's are based on trust. We have rules to make the MT more efficient, but the rules are not perfect and do not always cover every situation. We trust each other to do the right thing in situations where the rules are ambiguous. Please do not violate this trust.

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USA OCT 2011 MT - Literacy Matters: Official Rules and Discussion Thread
As always, the first rule of Math Trades still applies: Never add anything to your MT Want List (Step 4 of the OLWLG) that you would not be pleased to receive in exchange for your offered game.

Also, as always, note that there will NOT be a re-run/mulligan/do-over once results are published unless an error is caused by the moderator. Only errors by the moderator will invalidate any portion of the results. In the case that there is a problem after the results are posted, at most, it will only invalidate the affected trade chain(s) and not the entire results set. In addition if the problem can be resolved by the most directly affected party or parties, then that is perfectly acceptable.

Math Trades are NOT designed to allow participants to be able to review the results, decide that they do not like the results, and request to be able to re-submit updated Want Lists. Nor are MTs designed to allow users to ignore the published results and drop out of the MT. If this level of personal accountability is not acceptable to you, please do not enter this particular MT. By entering items in this MT, you are agreeing to honor your commitments regardless of whether or not you feel you made an error to your detriment.


Note: You will NOT be able to respond to comments in the Offer GeekList once it is locked down and the Submit Want List period begins. So, it is a great idea to check the OLWLG for any questions posted to your offers one last time about 20 minutes prior to the close of the Offer Submission period.
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USA OCT 2011 MT - Literacy Matters: Official Rules and Discussion Thread
Incentive Bounties: Frequently, tips are given to the people that moderate Math Trades. If this MT accumulates any tips, 100% of such tips will be awarded to others.

1. Delivering the Goods Bounty: Of the total tipped, I am going to give 1/3 to the MT participant that traded the most items that were actually requested on the Request List. (So take another look at the Request List and see if there is anything that you can offer). Obviously, this is intended to encourage people to offer the things that the participants in this MT want the most. There is no easy way to determine the winner of this award, so I will need help from the community after the MT is over to determine who wins this award.

2. MVP Bounty: Of the total tipped, I am going to give 1/3 to the MT participant who traded the single most wanted item. (So you might want to add some sweeteners to your offers to increase the demand)!! Obviously, this is intended to encourage everyone to offer the high-end games and lots of high-end stuff. Gift cards will not be eligible for this one, but have their own specific bounty (see below).

3. ToolTime Bounty: Of the total tipped, I am going to split 1/3 between [userid=cokasaki] and [userid=JeffyJeff].

4. Super-Dee-Duper Bonus Bounty: I will give 8 GG to every single participant that offers AND subsequently trades at least one game that is rated #1 on my Wishlist. Does not have to trade to me--just has to trade. This GG will not come from the tips but rather from my personal account.

5. Last Chance Bounty: I'm going to give away one of my games offered in this MT that does not trade. If you put one or more of my games on your WantList and that game does not trade in this MT, then you will be eligible to win a free copy of the game that you added to your Want List. I will choose one game that does not trade and offer it to one of the MT participants that had it listed on at least one of their Want Lists for zero cost other than the price of shipping. Clearly, it is not worth adding my games to your WLs if you have no interest, but if you are on the bubble about a title, perhaps this offer will tip the scales. Obviously, this is intended to encourage everyone to add my offers to their Want Lists.

6. Hidden Gem Offer Bounty: Per request from [userid=darthhugo] I am adding an incentive for best color commentary.
At the end of the Offer Submission period, I will ask each participant to nominate an offer that had interesting color commentary and whose color commentary was the most likely to induce other participants to consider reading the blurb, researching the item described, and adding the item to Want Lists.
Depending on the number of nominations, I will either be The Decider or (if there are a small number of nominations) I will set up a poll for participants to vote.
The winner will get enough to buy an avatar (I cannot remember how much that is). And if somebody with talent creates a Hidden Gem Finder microbadge, I will also give the winner the extra it takes to buy the microbadge. And if there are a very small number of nominations, I will give everybody nominated to buy the microbadge. Again, I have nothing to do with the creation of the microbadge (as I have no art talent).
Obviously, it will be difficult for any write-up of the top 25 (or at least top ten) games on BGG to win as they cannot be much of a "hidden" gem to many people on BGG. Also, offers of and Gift Cards are not eligible no matter how good/funny/interesting the description is.

7. Don't Tell My Spouse Bounty: The person that offers AND subsequently trades the highest total amount of Gift Cards will receive enough to buy an avatar (I cannot remember how much that is). For example, if user "A" traded four (4) $20 GCs and nobody else traded $80 worth of GCs then user "A" earns the bounty.
If there is a tie for highest total $$ Gift Cards traded, the tie breaker will be whoever gave the largest single gift card as part of the total. For example, if user "A" traded four (4) $20 GCs and user "B" traded one (1) $60 GC and one (1) $20 GC and nobody else traded $80 worth of GCs then user "B" earns the bounty.
If there is still a tie then the next tie-breaker is the person that posted the highest GC earliest in the MT will win.
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Bad Trader Redemption Plan:

And any user that has been reported as a bad trader is prohibited, unless they comply with the escrow provision outlined below:

Traders that have been reported as Bad Traders but that are attempting to rehabilitate may participate in this MT if they provide the moderator with a Gift Card to Amazon.com prior to the end of Want List submission for the full amount of the sum total of all the items that they are offering in this MT. This provision is not at all intended to be punitive, but rather just to safeguard the integrity of the MT. 100% of the escrowed funds will be returned to the user once all the user's trades from this MT have been verified as successfully completed. 100% of the escrowed funds will be forfeited if the user refuses to ship or fails, in any way, to successfully complete all trades from this MT. These funds will then be used by the moderator to repair any damage caused to the MT by the users failure.
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Multiple games in one offer entry:

There are two types of offers that list multiple items in a single entry:

1) "Bundles" include a main (or primary) item offered and one or more additional items ("Sweeteners") that are bundled into a single lot. This type of multi-item offer is encouraged as it helps to mitigate shipping costs. And a bigger bundle will frequently attract more interest. However, there is a trade-off. Bigger bundles may not be valued the same across the MT population as not all other participants might be interested in all of the items in the bundle. Bundles that involve a common theme or base game plus expansions may do better than bundles of dissimilar items.

If you decide to include one or more sweeteners with the main item offered, you MUST use a Sweetener(s) tag or label and you must provide accurate details on condition, language, edition/publisher, and any other important pertinent data for every offered sweetener item.
"Sweetener(s):"
For each sweetener, include the following data:
[ImageID=nnnnn]
[Thing=nnnn][/Thing] (easiest way to insert the proper data is to just use the BGG insert game link pull-down)
Comments:
Condition:
Publisher/Edition:
Language:


2) "Selections" or "Picks" do not include a fixed main (or primary) item in the offer, but rather include a list of items from which a user would select some number of items. (i.e. Choose n games from the list of y games). Because there is no fixed main item, these type of offers should be listed as Outside the Scope of BGG offers with the mandatory altname tag.
You must clearly state the terms of the offer (i.e. specify exactly how many items the user will get to choose from the list).
And for each item in the list that may be selected, you must provide accurate details on condition, language, edition/publisher, and any other important pertinent data.
[ImageID=nnnnn]
[Thing=nnnn][/Thing] (easiest way to insert the proper data is to just use the BGG insert game link pull-down)
Comments:
Condition:
Publisher/Edition:
Language:

2B) A variation on the "Selections" or "Picks" is a "Receiver's Choice". In the old days of MTs this was called an "Or". Rather than having no fixed main (or primary) item in the offer, the "Receiver's Choice" has a featured main item, but then offers the receiver the option of choosing an alternative instead of the featured item. Because there is a featured main item, these type of offers are not listed as Outside the Scope of BGG offers. These type of offers are useful when a participant wants to offer something that has been explicitly requested on the Request List, but is open to trading something else instead.
You must clearly state the terms of the offer (i.e. specify that any alternatives are instead -- not in addition to the primary featured item in the offer).
And for each potential alternative item that may be selected, you must provide accurate details on condition, language, edition/publisher, and any other important pertinent data.
[ImageID=nnnnn]
[Thing=nnnn][/Thing] (easiest way to insert the proper data is to just use the BGG insert game link pull-down)
Comments:
Condition:
Publisher/Edition:
Language:
(This "Receiver's Choice" is not used as much any more as not all MTs even have a Request List).

3) Some would say that there is a third type of offer that may result in multiple games being listed in a single entry. A Bundle-Selection Hybrid includes a fixed main (or primary) item in the offer and then it also includes a list of items from which a user would select some number of items as a Sweetener. Because there is a fixed main item, these type of offers are not listed as Outside the Scope of BGG offers. But it is even more critical to clearly state the terms of the offer for the sweetener section of these type of hybrid offers (i.e. specify exactly how many items the user will get to choose from the Sweetener list). Always use language in your offer description that accurately describes what you are offering.


**) While technically not a multi-item offer, there is one other type of listing that merits discussion here. While commentary in the offer is welcome, please do NOT insert BGG game links or [THING] / [GAMEID] tags to other games (for example, if you are listing an expansion, do not include a link to the base game) in your entry unless you are actually including the additional game as part of your multiple-item offer, because they are displayed in a misleading manner by the OLWLG.
However, pictures/images are OK as they do not cause this problem in OLWLG. And Tinyurl links are also not a problem for OLWLG. Always use language in your offer description that accurately describes what you are offering.
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Change Management Process:

1. Do not delete offered items from the Offer Geeklist once you have posted them. Deleting posted offers causes the integrity of the numbering system to collapse and user scripts to break.
It's totally cool if you don't want to trade an item once it's added--maybe you get an irresistible private offer, maybe your game is not in the condition you remembered, maybe your dog ate it. The reason does not matter. You don't have to reveal the details, but you are welcome to insert an amusing story explaining why the item is no longer available if you wish. Even if you do not provide a story, you should change the offer to Outside the Scope of BGG, change the description to +altname+ Zilch -altname-, and remember to submit a Blank Want List for this entry.

2. Also, do not do not substitute, split, change, downgrade, denigrate, or degrade an offered main item or any sweeteners once they are posted. While this type of change does not destroy the numbering system, it does destroy the overall integrity of the MT. Back in the "old days" the total number of items offered was small enough that MT participants could easily review the list several times prior to final submission of Want Lists so changes (to main items or sweeteners) back then were not much of a problem. However, with the evolution of the MT tools, current MTs are often gigantic and with the deficiencies of the current GeekList format for trading, many (most?) participants only work through the offers on the Offer GeekList once (in real time as they are being added) and never see any changes that might be made. This obviously causes problems if material changes of any kind are made. If you no longer wish to trade an entry as it was originally posted, you should change the offer to Outside the Scope of BGG, change the description to +altname+ Zilch -altname-, and remember to submit a Blank Want List for this entry.
If you still want to trade a portion of the original offer or some variation of the original offer, simply re-post a new offer with the new details.

3. In the current MT environment, the only changes that are appropriate are providing clarifications (that do not materially change your original offer), switching the picture to one that better matches the text of your offer and adding sweeteners. All other changes should be handled with the process described above where you blank the original offer, submit a blank Want List for that original offer and possibly add a new offer.

Is this a bit kludge-y and cumbersome? Yes, but it is currently the best way to minimize misunderstandings, miscommunications, and drama.

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USA OCT 2011 MT - Literacy Matters: Official Rules and Discussion Thread
Offer Template:

Comments: Color commentary goes here. Any other important pertinent data for the offered item and/or any pithy comments (i.e. "OOP and hard-to-find title designed by Martin Wallace").

Publisher/Edition/Language:
Use Pull Down Menu to Insert Publisher.
Specify Edition or Version (Text describing exactly which edition you are offering (i.e. "AH 3rd edition published in 1999"). Do NOT just say "as pictured").
Specify Language (Most items will be "English"; however, since many games are published in multiple languages, it is important to specify the language of the copy that you are offering.)

Condition: Describe condition of box and components.

Shipping:
[You can remove this section as the shipper is REQUIRED to pay full cost of shipping (minus insurance)]

Sweetener(s):
If you are offering more than one item as a "lot" add the other item(s) here. Otherwise, you can remove this section or just specify, "None."

+altname+NameGoesHere-altname-

%Options%
Copies: 1
%End%
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USA OCT 2011 MT - Literacy Matters: Official Rules and Discussion Thread
Arbitrage:

You may not put geekgold on your want list for your offered geekgold entry. For example, you may not try to trade your offer of 800 for another user's offer of 900 .

And you may not put a gift card/certificate for a greater amount on your want list for your offered gift card/certificate entry. For example, you may not try to trade your $25 GC from Amazon for another user's offer of a $35 GC from ThoughtHammer.

GC downgrade or lateral transfer: You may put a gift card/certificate for a lesser or equal amount on your want list for your offered gift card/certificate entry. For example, if you offer a $75 GC from CoolStuff, you may add a GC for $50 from Home Depot to your MT Want List. Or if you offer a $45 GC from Boards&Bits, you may add a GC for $45 from Victoria's Secret to your MT Want List.

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Shipping:

100% of shipping costs (except for optional insurance) will be paid by the sender (the person that posts an offer). By entering items in this MT you are agreeing to these shipping terms. There will be no "I will pay the first $nn". There will be no "mirror shipping". There will be no "The receiver must pay $nn". There is no ambiguity. The sender pays the shipping costs. So, obviously you should take this into account when you build your Want Lists--if you offer Space Hulk (third edition), then only put items on your MT Want Lists that are worth the value of Space Hulk (third edition) plus the cost to ship Space Hulk (third edition).

If this shipping policy is not acceptable to you, please do not enter items into this particular MT. The sender is prohibited from charging the receiver for shipping (other than insurance if the receiver requests it) in this MT.

The default shipping method will be the least-cost method (typically USPS Priority Flat Rate) with a delivery confirmation or tracking number, but without insurance.

The sender may not charge the receiver for insurance unless the receiver requests insurance.
The sender is free to choose a more expensive and faster shipping method (but may not require the receiver to pay extra). (After the results are published (and confirmed), receivers may volunteer to pay extra and request faster shipping or work out other arrangements suitable to both parties).
The receiver may request to pay for insurance (totally up to the receiver).
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USA OCT 2011 MT - Literacy Matters: Official Rules and Discussion Thread
Tips for Finishing Up:

Everyone -- please go to step 2 of OLWLG and re-check whether you have correctly entered your zip code (the entry field is just under the list of Active Math Trades). If not, please do so immediately.

Please note that it's best to add items to your initial MT Want List (step 3 of OLWLG) during the offer submission period [the add as you go approach] and to submit your MT Want List (step 4 of OLWLG) early - you can always make changes and resubmit later. This will prevent you from being left out if you forget the deadline.

Also: Creating MT Want Lists is not the same as submitting them. To submit them you will need to click on the "Submit My Wants" button (once it becomes available). If you're not sure how to find this, consult the documentation referenced above or ask in the discussion thread.

When you submit your MT Want Lists, you will receive a confirming GeekMail (from JeffyJeff). If you don't get one, your MT Want Lists haven't been submitted. And it is important to review this geekmail to ensure that you did not make a mistake when you created your Want List.

Before you hit the "Submit My Wants" button for the last time, make sure to re-check all your MT Want Lists one last time. Use the Summary tab.

Please enter lots of items and have some fun with this. Good luck!
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What to do when the results are announced:

After the Submit Want Lists period is over and while the Trade Maximizer is running, everyone should ensure that all their offered items are listed as available for trade in their BGG collection.

You should also review the guidelines outlined here: After the Results are Declared Official.

When the results are announced, everyone should review the results and immediately notify the moderator if any issues are spotted.

And then STOP and take a deep breath.

Later, after the moderator has declared the results official, then Receivers should send a BGG trade offer to the current owners (Senders).
Senders may feel free to contact the Receivers and initiate the trade if they want.

While all the tools and data are available for everybody to re-run the trade with all kinds of different settings and parameters (including the removal of various Want Lists), if you do so...
Please, please, please do NOT post a comment about what could have changed or a link to different results. It just causes unneeded drama. If you do not like the settings that will be used for this MT or you do not like who is participating or you do not like the rules, just skip this MT. Do NOT stir the pot.
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kdiddy13 wrote:

Don't be afraid to send a polite GM to someone reminding them to put up a trade if you don't see it.

A couple more things that have served me well in the past (and I appreciate as well):
- Communicate - Let people know when you plan to ship something or if you might be delayed beyond the end of the week. It'll keep them from getting panicky that you're a 'bad' trader.

- Assume the Best - Bad traders are fortunately very rare, and people can find themselves unexpectedly busy. Try a polite GM before raising a red flag here.

- Try and Relax - Again, people can find themselves unexpectedly busy because of work, sickness, car problems, etc. Don't get panicky before at least a week has gone by.

- Don't Blow Your Lid Publicly - It never ends well for the 'complainer'. Try to resolve it privately with both the party you are trading with and Moderators if further necessary. If that doesn't work, there are proper channels to register trade complaints (the moderators can help with this: I believe that Octavian is in charge of the Trade Police?).
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This man is serious.

Thanks for organizing this math trade.
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I find your lack of body parts disturbing. ninja
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Re: USA OCT 2011 MT - Literacy Matters: Official Rules and Discussion Thread
I do not understand which board games are allowed and which are not, even though I am indeed literate.

You carefully list 18xx, train, wargames, and Tanga/thriftshop/clearance games. So are games that are not 18xx, train, war, or clearance items not allowed? If all board games are allowed, I don't understand the specificity of the list of games allowed rather than just saying all board games are allowed...
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LoMa wrote:
I do not understand which board games are allowed and which are not, even though I am indeed literate.

You carefully list 18xx, train, wargames, and Tanga/thriftshop/clearance games. So are games that are not 18xx, train, war, or clearance items not allowed? If all board games are allowed, I don't understand the specificity of the list of games allowed rather than just saying all board games are allowed...
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...and other board games
means... well... board games. As long as there is an entry in the BGG database, it is good to go.
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Wow. I can appreciate wanting to cover everything, but have there been issues lately that I have missed? It is overwhelming.

Of late, though, I am getting burned out on math trades personally. There are very few games on my want list, and the offers for my trade items that I have seen in previous results are ridiculous. I see offers of a $15 item for a $40 game, which I am supposed to pay around $10 to ship. I suppose people just try to take a chance to see if lightning strikes.

That and clicking buttons for all the gift certificates is getting tiring. It is bad enough for the $40 and up ones, but the tons and tons of $15 gift cert just don't make sense to me. Why would I pay almost $15 to ship a game, just to get a $15 gift certificate.

I guess I am just rambling. Someone convince me to keep trying for those few things I am interested in. Or, alternatively, tell me to shut up.
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Solamar wrote:
Wow. I can appreciate wanting to cover everything, but have there been issues lately that I have missed? It is overwhelming.

Of late, though, I am getting burned out on math trades personally. There are very few games on my want list, and the offers for my trade items that I have seen in previous results are ridiculous. I see offers of a $15 item for a $40 game, which I am supposed to pay around $10 to ship. I suppose people just try to take a chance to see if lightning strikes.

That and clicking buttons for all the gift certificates is getting tiring. It is bad enough for the $40 and up ones, but the tons and tons of $15 gift cert just don't make sense to me. Why would I pay almost $15 to ship a game, just to get a $15 gift certificate.

I guess I am just rambling. Someone convince me to keep trying for those few things I am interested in. Or, alternatively, tell me to shut up.
I think you're looking for this thread.
Discussion Thread for Various Math Trades run by RoamDog - Place to Whine About Rules
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Solamar wrote:
Wow. I can appreciate wanting to cover everything, but have there been issues lately that I have missed? It is overwhelming.

Of late, though, I am getting burned out on math trades personally. There are very few games on my want list, and the offers for my trade items that I have seen in previous results are ridiculous. I see offers of a $15 item for a $40 game, which I am supposed to pay around $10 to ship. I suppose people just try to take a chance to see if lightning strikes.

That and clicking buttons for all the gift certificates is getting tiring. It is bad enough for the $40 and up ones, but the tons and tons of $15 gift cert just don't make sense to me. Why would I pay almost $15 to ship a game, just to get a $15 gift certificate.

I guess I am just rambling. Someone convince me to keep trying for those few things I am interested in. Or, alternatively, tell me to shut up.
There will always be folks that attempt to trade up. Nature of the beast.

Obviously, you control what you will accept in return for your game.

I totally hear you on the box checking. However, if you (only) add things of interest as they show up on the Geeklist, your list may not be overwhelming.

And most important of all, if you have not installed the greasemonkey scripts for OWLITO and CheckBoxMate, you should do so immediately. It is night and day. I would have dropped MTs entirely if it was not for these scripts.
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Well, I don't see how it really affects you if someone puts your more valuable items on a wantlist for a less valuable item - as long as you only put things on your wantlists that you want for that specific game or item.

And honestly, I don;t worry about whether I'm trading up or down. I just consider whether I'd rather have this other game instead of the one I have. Works really well for me. In the last math trade, I ended up trading a $26 game for a $44, which I guess is nice - but not really the point. It's about getting a game I'd rather have. On the other hand, I also traded a $33 game for a $26 game, which is a trade-down. But it doesn't feel like I'm trading down because I'm getting a game I prefer.

So for me, it all works out fine, regardless of who put my games on their wantlists for whatever. I get something I want for something I don't want.
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Solamar wrote:
Wow. I can appreciate wanting to cover everything, but have there been issues lately that I have missed? It is overwhelming.

Of late, though, I am getting burned out on math trades personally. There are very few games on my want list, and the offers for my trade items that I have seen in previous results are ridiculous. I see offers of a $15 item for a $40 game, which I am supposed to pay around $10 to ship. I suppose people just try to take a chance to see if lightning strikes.

That and clicking buttons for all the gift certificates is getting tiring. It is bad enough for the $40 and up ones, but the tons and tons of $15 gift cert just don't make sense to me. Why would I pay almost $15 to ship a game, just to get a $15 gift certificate.

I guess I am just rambling. Someone convince me to keep trying for those few things I am interested in. Or, alternatively, tell me to shut up.
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Re: USA OCT 2011 MT - Literacy Matters: Official Rules and Discussion Thread
I am always a bit amused when people get upset when someone is willing to trade a $10 GC for their copy of Agricola. You are not the one receiving the $10 for your copy of Agricola. You are receiving a game that you were willing to accept in exchange for giving your copy of Agricola to some lucky b@$+@rd who is getting your copy of Agricola in exchange for sending some other poor b@$+@rd a $10 gift certificate.

Unless you were willing to trade straight up for the $10 GC. In that case, it's all on you pal.
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I don't think anyone is really thinking that someone is going to end up trading a $10 GC for a $50 or $100 game. The GC might trade for a $12 game which trades for a $15 game and on up. It would be interesting to see if any chains have ever progressed like that.
 
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