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Subject: SECRET SANTA 2008: list of the best European online shops 
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To help the Santas that have European targets, i've made this list of european shops (and valuable info like shipping costs) from where you can buy your gifts.
Please note, there are many online shops available, i compiled only the ones that i know of (or made successful buys) and that i think that can be helpful to this matter (ex: i didn't list Play.me because i had many problems with them in the past).
Please help to complete this list if you can (sending links and their shipping costs).
At the moment the conversion between euros and US dollars is roughly at 1.0 EUR = 1.27 USD. If you need a money converter, you can use http://www.visiteurope.com/ccm/vacation/currency/
So here's the list:
========== GERMANY ==========
(currency: EURO)
General advice: German stores have the lowest prices and the largest variety in Europe, so it’s the ideal place to buy your gifts for German targets or from any other neighbor country (like Austria, Czech Republic, Poland, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxemburg, France and Switzerland).
Spiele-Offensive
Website: http://www.spiele-offensive.de (english NOT available)
Comment: very good prices in general, i've had a good experience with them, shipping is good for some countries. You'll get 10% discount if you enter the code PPW08 when ordering (until 12/21/08). For direct contact you can use janus@forHeads-network.de
Shipping:
to GERMANY, AUSTRIA: 3,95 EUR (free shipping over 40 EUR)
to BELGIUM, LUXEMBURG, NETHERLANDS: 8 EUR (4 EUR discount if order >40 EUR)
to DENMARK: 10 EUR (4 EUR discount if order >40 EUR)
to ITALY: 15,80 EUR (4 EUR discount if order >40 EUR)
to UK, FINLAND, SPAIN, PORTUGAL, SWITZERLAND, POLAND, SWEDEN: 16 EUR (4 EUR discount if order >40 EUR)
to NORWAY, HUNGARY: 25 EUR (4 EUR discount if order >40 EUR)
other shipping destinations also available, check http://www.spiele-offensive.de/index.php?cmd=hilfe&zielkat=2... Milan Spiele
Website: http://www.milan-spiele.de (english NOT available)
Comment: also has very good prices for many games, has many english versions of games, i've had a good experience with them, shipping is generally expensive. For direct contact you can use michael@milan-spiele.com (i've ordered directly through email)
Shipping:to EUROPE: lots of different prices per country, see http://www.milan-spiele.de/shipping.php CosimShop
Website: http://www.cosimshop.de (english NOT available)
Shipping:
to GERMANY: 4,50 EUR (free shipping over 100 EUR)
to EUROPE: order total up to 100 eur = 15 EUR; over 100 eur = 10 EUR 12Spiel (thanks to Spellen)
Website: http://www.12spiel.de (english NOT available)
Shipping:
to GERMANY: 4 EUR (free shipping over 40 EUR)
to AUSTRIA, BELGIUM, NETHERLANDS, LUXEMBURG: 7 EUR
to FRANCE, DENMARK, SWITZERLAND: 10 EUR
to UK, ITALY: 15 EUR
to POLAND, SPAIN, PORTUGAL, HUNGARY, SLOVENIA, GREECE, SWEDEN, SLOVAKIA: 20 EUR
========== FRANCE ==========
(currency: EURO)
General advice: The first 2 stores have nice prices and variety so you should consider them to buy your gifts to France or Belgium, but probably the best buy would be from German stores. Philibert
Website: http://www.philibertnet.com (english NOT available)
Comment: some good prices, i've had a good experience with them, shipping costs are simple and good. For direct contact you can use jeux@philibertnet.com
Shipping:
to FRANCE: 5,50 EUR (free shipping over 55 EUR)
to BELGIUM, LUXEMBURG: 5,50 EUR (free shipping over 100 EUR)
to EUROPE: 8 EUR (free shipping over 150 EUR)
to SWITZERLAND: 8 EUR (free shipping over 160 EUR) Ludibay
Website: http://www.ludibay.net (english available)
Comment: prices are so-so but has lots of new games, i've never bought from them, shipping costs are simple and good. They will offer a 5% discount on all the orders placed for the Secret Santa 2008.
Shipping:
to FRANCE, BELGIUM: maximum 5 EUR (free shipping over 50 EUR)
to EUROPE, SWITZERLAND: 12 EUR (free shipping over 200 EUR) Au Coin Du Jeu
Website: http://aucoindujeu.com (english available)
Comment: games are generally expensive, i've bought them an hard to find game and had a good experience. For direct contact you can use info@aucoindujeu.com
Shipping:
to FRANCE: 5,50 EUR (free shipping over 60 EUR)
to BELGIUM, GERMANY, ITALY, LUXEMBURG, NETHERLANDS, SPAIN: 13 EUR
to AUSTRIA, DENMARK, FINLAND, NORWAY, PORTUGAL, SWEDEN, SWITZERLAND, UK: 14 EUR
========== BELGIUM ==========
(currency: EURO)
General advice: If you have a target in Belgium, check the stores below but also the ones from France. Anyway, probably the best buy would be from German stores. Outpost Shop (thanks to Gogolski)
Website: http://www.outpost.be/shop/ (english available)
Shipping: no info The Gamestore (thanks to Gogolski)
Website: http://www.thegamestore.be/store/ (english available)
Shipping:
to BELGIUM: 5 EUR for orders between 25 and 100 EUR (free shipping for over 100 EUR)
to Belgium neighbor countries: 15 EUR for orders between 25 and 100 EUR and 25 EUR for orders between 100 and 200 EUR
to EUROPE: you have to contact them Adriaensen (thanks to Spellen)
Website: http://users.telenet.be/adriaensen/ (english NOT available)
Shipping: to BELGIUM, NETHERLANDS: 5 EUR (less than 50 EUR); 2,5 EUR (less than 100 EUR); free shipping (over 100 EUR) Time2Game (thanks to Spellen)
Website: http://time2game.be (english NOT available)
Shipping: to BELGIUM: 6 EUR (less than 50 EUR); 3 EUR (over 50 EUR)
========== SPAIN ==========
(currency: EURO)
General advice: Probably the best buy would be from a local Spanish store, but you should consider alternatives from France also. Planeton Games
Website: http://www.planetongames.com (english available)
Comment: they have lots of Essen 2008 releases and the games have nice prices, i've had lots of good experiences with them, shipping for Spain and Portugal is excellent: cheap and very fast. For direct contact you can use clientes@planetongames.com
Shipping:
to SPAIN, PORTUGAL: 7,5 EUR (free shipping over 100 EUR or more than 10 Kg)
to EUROPE: you have to contact them La PCra
Website: http://www.lapcra.org (english available)
Comment: games have nice prices, i've had a good experience with them, shipping could be cheaper, at least for Portugal. For direct contact you can use tienda@lapcra.org
Shipping:
to SPAIN: good prices but depends on order weight
to PORTUGAL: 12 EUR (up to 5 Kg) or 16 EUR (up to 10 Kg)
to EUROPE: you have to contact them MasQueOca
Website: http://www.masqueoca.com/tienda/ (english NOT available)
Shipping: no info
========== PORTUGAL ==========
(currency: EURO)
General advice: Probably the best buy would be from Spanish stores (low shipping costs), but you should consider the alternatives from France also. Diver Online
Website: http://www.diver.pt/loja/index.php?cPath=1 (english NOT available)
Comment: They have a limited variety of games available and the prices are not so good generally, but maybe you can still find some good deals. If you need help buying from them you can contact me
Shipping:
to PORTUGAL: 3,98 EUR maximum (free shipping if you buy more than 1 game)
to EUROPE: you have to contact them
========== ITALIA ==========
(currency: EURO)
General advice: Check the italian stores but you should consider the alternatives from Germany and France also. GiochinScatola
Website: http://giochinscatola.it/catalog/index.php (english available)
Comment: games have so-so prices, never bought from them. For direct contact you can use info@giochinscatola.it
Shipping:
to ITALY: 9,00 eur (free shipping with order over 200 eur)
to other countries in europe check the detailed shipping cost table in http://giochinscatola.it/catalog/info_pages.php?pages_id=6 Spellenhut
Website: http://www.ready2play.eu/catalog/index.php?language=en (english NOT available)
Shipping: for info check http://www.ready2play.eu/catalog/shipping.php
========== NETHERLANDS ==========
(currency: EURO)
General advice: Check the local stores but you should consider the alternatives from Germany also. Spellenhuis
Website: http://www.spellenhuis.nl (english NOT available)
Shipping:
to NETHERLANDS: 6 EUR
to BELGIUM, GERMANY, LUXEMBURG: 15,95 EUR
to AUSTRIA, FRANCE, UK: 21,95 EUR
to SPAIN, ITALY, POLAND, HUNGARY: 25,95 EUR
to PORTUGAL, SLOVAKIA, SLOVENIA, IRELAND, SWEDEN, FINLAND: 26,45 EUR Spellenhut
Website: http://spellenhut.nl (english NOT available)
Shipping:
to NETHERLANDS: 5,95 EUR (free shipping over 100 EUR)
to BELGIUM: 8,95 EUR
========== UNITED KINGDOM ==========
1.0 GBP = 1.16 EUR
1.0 GBP = 1.47 USD
General advice: Most probably the best option is to buy from a UK store. Games Lore
Website: http://www.gameslore.com (english available)
Comment: large ammount of games available, have already done one purchase successfully, good service
Shipping: to UK, EUROPE: depends on order weight Shire Games Online
Website: http://www.shiregames.com/khxc/index.php (english available)
Shipping: to UK, EUROPE: depends on order weight (free shipping in UK for over 50 £) The Games Player
Website: http://www.thegamesplayer.co.uk (english available)
Shipping:
to UK: 10% of order (free shipping for orders over £75)
to EUROPE: 25% of order Green Knight Games
Website: http://www.greenknightgames.co.uk (english available)
Shipping: to UK, EUROPE: depends on order weight Land of Games
Website: http://www.land-of-games.co.uk (english available)
Shipping: to EUROPE: you have to contact them to know JKLM Direct
Website: http://www.jklmdirect.co.uk ((english available)
Shipping: no info on shipping costs Infinity Games UK
Website: http://www.iguk.co.uk (english available)
Shipping:
to UK: all orders shipped via Second Class Post and within the UK are shipped for free.
to EUROPE: depends on order weight The Board Game Club (thanks to 1000rpm)
Website: http://www.boardgameclub.co.uk (english available)
Shipping: to UK: 5£
========== SWITZERLAND ==========
1.0 CHF/SFR = 0.66 EUR
1.0 CHF/SFR = 0.83 USD
General advice: If your target is from Switzerland, probably the best option is to buy from a German store. Brettspieleshop
Website: http://www.brettspieleshop.ch (english NOT available)
Shipping: to SWITZERLAND: 3 SFR (free shipping over 50 SFR)
========== SWEDEN ==========
1.0 SEK = 0.10 EUR
1.0 SEK = 0.12 USD
General advice: If your target is from Sweden, you should consider the swedish stores but also the german ones (probably the best option). World of Boardgames
Website: http://www.worldofboardgames.com (english NOT available)
Shipping: to SWEDEN, EUROPE: depends on order weight Science Fiction Bokhandeln
Website: http://www.sfbokhandeln.se (english NOT available)
Shipping: to SWEDEN, EUROPE: depends on order weight
========== DENMARK ==========
1.0 DKK = 0.134 EUR
1.0 DKK = 0.170 USD
General advice: If your target is from Denmark, probably the best option is to buy from a German store. Boardgamer.dk (thanks to yazpah)
Website: http://www.boardgamer.dk (english NOT available)
Comment: The owner of the store is a BGG user (capecastle) and he knows most of the Danish secret santa participants. If you want to buy through his shop to ship in Denmark, he will be happy to help you out, all you got to do is write to him through BGG or email.
Shipping: no info Fantask
Website: http://www.fantask.dk (english NOT available)
Shipping: no info
========== POLAND ==========
1.0 ZL = 0.26 EUR
1.0 ZL = 0.33 USD
General advice: If your target is from Poland, probably the best option is to buy from a German store. Rebel (thanks to yosz)
Website: http://rebel.pl/ (english NOT available)
English info: http://www.rebel.pl/x.php/1,185/English-version.html
Shipping: to POLAND: between 2 and 4 euros
========== HUNGARY ==========
1.0 HUF = 0.0037 EUR
1.0 HUF = 0.00468 USD
General advice: If your target is from Hungary, you should consider the local stores but also the german ones (probably the best option). Compaya (thanks to TomVasel list)
Website: http://www.compaya.hu (english NOT available)
Shipping: to HUNGARY: free shipping
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- Mousey(Mousey)Netherlands
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For the Netherlands the german shops are generally cheaper, including shipping. They also stock a few english games.
For Spiele offensieve you get 4 euro discount on shipping outside of germany when the order is over 40 euro.
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A couple of Belgium stores:
http://www.outpost.be/shop/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&I...
http://www.thegamestore.be/store/
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2 other Belgian stores I have good experience with:
Adriaensen
- Website: http://users.telenet.be/adriaensen/
- Shipping to Belgium and the Netherlands: 5 EUR (<50 EUR); 2.5 EUR (<100 EUR); free (over 100 EUR)
Time2Game
- Website: http://time2game.be/
- Shipping to Belgium: 6 EUR (<50 EUR); 3 EUR (over 50 EUR)
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Mousey wrote:For the Netherlands the german shops are generally cheaper, including shipping.For Belgium this is also true.
I have good experience with:
- http://www.12spiel.de/ : flat rate of 7 euro to Belgium
- http://www.allgames4you.de/
- http://www.amazon.de : flat rate of 6 euro to Belgium and many other European countries.
- SpieleOffensive & Milan Spiele (already mentioned)
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spellen wrote:This one would be my suggestion; my standard store: very reliable, top prices, reasonable shipping fee.
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THANK YOU FOR THIS LIST!!
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- An Italian one (good prices): http://www.ready2play.eu/catalog/index.php?language=en
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Hi Helio, nice and usefull list for Secret Santa and for future buys
Last time I've ordered something from MasqueOca - Spain it was a 12 € flat rate to Portugal.
All the best
Duarte
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ab-zur-kassa.de : is another excellent german online shop.
YOu can find many online shops using boardgameprices.com
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- Marcin Krupiński(yosz)Poland
Warsaw
Designer of two games and one expansion
This space is available for rental
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==== POLAND ====
http://rebel.pl - unfortunatelu there is no english version besides this one page: http://www.rebel.pl/x.php/1,185/English-version.html ... but - you can still e-mail them, pay by paypal. Customer Service is great and they will gladly help
Shipping in Poland would be about 2-4€ But because of high conversion rate between € and PLN you could easily buy from German shops and send it to Poland
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- Sorry to be off topic, but will there be a list of best N. American online shops soon?
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Already is! Check here:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/355927
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United Kingdom:
http://www.boardgameclub.co.uk/
Quite often the cheapest online store in the UK
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Finland:
lautapelit.fi,
Fantasiapelit
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For those of you having a target in Belgium, home of beer and chocolates, you'll find the very best rates with Adriaensen (users.telenet.be/adriaensen)!
Their site is Dutch only, but don't hesitate to send them a mail with your questions. These guys are very helpfull and they have the honor to deliver most of my boardgames when I decide to make an online order myself! Very good service!
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For Germany I would recommend the search engine for boardgames: www.brettspielsuche.de
Many shops are listed there, but not all (due to some problems transmitting the search query to the local search engine the shop uses).
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Poland and rebel.pl - the shipping to poland is less than 3 euro (and that's UPS not national post), (even less for orders of ~30E). while the webstore itself is polish only, they have extremely helpfull staff; write an email, and you'll be glad you did. if they don't carry what you'd like to buy - again: ask, and most likely the answer will be 'sure, it'll be at your target's home by christmas'. I've been told there might even be a service of sending the package wrapped as a gift, even if there isn't one officialy by the time you order be sure to ask.
while buying games in germany is a bit cheaper, for a small order like you are likely to be doing for secret santa the savings will NOT be bigger than the difference in shipping.
(not affiliated, just a fanboy)
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Is there a similar list to this for other non-USA/Europe options?
How about Australia?
New Zealand?
South America?
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========== UNITED KINGDOM ==========
I have had good experiences with Spirit Games and Heron Games
http://www.spiritgames.co.uk/
http://www.fwtwr.com/store/index.asp (which is Heron games despite the strange url.)
Both tend to have a very good stock level. For individual games, Heron games is probably the cheaper of the two.
Both will ship on the day of ordering with a 1-2 day delivery service
Spirit games maximum UK delvery cost is £5
Heron games delivery cost depends upon the weight of the game(s) but the cost will be confirmed before you finalise the order.
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- Yeah, the 'real' web address for Heron Games looks a little odd, but www.herongames.com will take you there and is easier to remember :-)
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POLAND
My target is in Poland and I started investigating options before I found this list.
There is a game store with multiple branches in major Polish cities: Krakow, Warsaw and others with whom I have been working. I don't know about gift wrapping yet but they have already said that they would be able to send an anonymous package.
The website is all in Polish but just under their name is a bunch of click boxes one of which is Kontakt. This opened an e-mail box and I got a response back in clear english in less than 8 hours.
They also accept Visa and have a PayPal option.
www.bard.pl
I will edit this post after I have ordered to let you know how it has been.
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======= Norway =======
www.spillskrinet.no
www.brettspill.no
www.billigebrettspill.no
www.spillsjefen.no
www.gamezone.no
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UNITED KINGDOM
If i might be so bold as to mention my own shop www.boardgameguru.co.uk. I'd like to think the prices are very competitive and if you can see a game on the website it's in stock (i hide anything i've sold out of)
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There's also...
www.leisuregames.co.uk
...in the UK.
John
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