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Season's greetings all. As promised, I'm running one last math trade before the end of the year.

Trade GeekList: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/37677
Request GeekList: http://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/37861

Use of the On-Line Want List Generator (OLWLG) is required for this event (please remember to tip JeffyJeff some GG for his support).

OK - very simple rules:

1) Gift certificates, Geekgold, DVDs etc are all permitted.

2) Gift certificate arbitrage is NOT allowed.

3) Non-game entries must be added as "Outside the Scope of BGG" (game id 23953) or "Miscellaneous Game Accessory" (game id 5985) and must include the +altname+ brief description -altname- format in the description of your item.

4) You are expected to describe, as accurately as is reasonably possible, the condition, language and edition of your item in the description. This includes sweeteners if they are physical items (i.e. not GG).

For games not brand new (in shrink) you must inventory the game's components and list anything missing. Do not assume it's complete. Also, remember that just because something is "new in shrink" that doesn't mean that you shouldn't disclose any dings. It might not matter to you, but it matters to some people.

If the game and/or expansion you are listing is a "Print & Play" make that clear in the description (and I recommend you give specifics what it was printed on, mounted on, etc).

If you are listing an expansion if you reference the base game in the description be clear one way or the other if you are including the base game or not. Do not include a link to the base game unless you are including it.

5) Your shipping restrictions must be clearly stated and if you are not covering full shipping, you must state precisely how much of the shipping you will cover. You are not permitted to require a specific amount for shipping from the recipient. "Mirror shipping" is not allowed. People will offer to pay what they think they can afford - if you don't like someone else's shipping policies, then don't put their items on your list. Any ambiguity will be interpreted as generosity on your part. If you are not covering full shipping, please state clearly where you are shipping from as this will help anyone who is trying to figure out their shipping cost for your item.

6) Sweeteners are to be listed using either the GAMEID formatting (prefered, example Hansa) or a link to the game's page (this will look like http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/8989). If you don't use this format your sweeteners won't show up in the OLWLG properly.

7) If you've been reported as a bad trader, you cannot participate. If you try to, I will remove you entries.

8) Additional Rule: Please do NOT include links to other games in your entry unless you are actually including them as a sweetener, as this is displayed in a misleading manner by the OLWLG.

Other useful information

OLWLG Guides: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/30011
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/32005 (Duplicate protection)
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/159648

Software Used: TradeMaximizer with duplicate protection. SEED=1234567, ITERATIONS=100, METRIC=USERS-TRADING

List Cap: None

Maximum Submissions Per User: Unlimited


Geekgold restrictions:

Users may not post more geekgold than they currently have.


Key dates (all times CENTRAL TIME)

Open for posting games: Now until Thursday, January 1st (10pm)

Want list submission period: Ends on Saturday, January 3rd (10am) - no extensions! Please note that's AM not PM!


Results posted shortly thereafter.

Want list submission

Submissions may be made at any time after the 1st at 10pm, but only by the OLWLG.

Note: only errors by the moderator will invalidate the results.

Also in the case that there is a problem after the results are posted, at most it will only invalidate the affected trade chain(s) and not the entire results set. In addition if the problem can be resolved by the most directly affected party or parties, then that is perfectly acceptable.
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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
That's it. Sadly we missed lots of items. Presumably people just didn't read the instructions correctly.

# MISSING 219 WANTS (8.8%) FROM 39 USER(s) (13.3%):
# armin101 (2)
# asgelb (20)
# bigtex01 (5)
# BlueTorch (6)
# burthunt (10)
# caesarmom (4)
# carson_mccullers (2)
# Cleitus the Black (1)
# cmessenger (7)
# collja (1)
# dakman (2)
# Demarryl (3)
# Doghinp (3)
# Domhnall101 (5)
# Emeraldhunter (3)
# fubar awol (2)
# GameCrossing (7)
# Glamorous Mucus (16)
# hersh007 (11)
# ijmcf (6)
# jbrodin (19)
# kdean1 (8)
# killjoy00 (18)
# lawmama (4)
# leroy43 (4)
# lj1983 (2)
# MadMav (1)
# matthan (7)
# MetalGuitarist (2)
# Mozart78 (1)
# nibuen (2)
# pjmcnamara (1)
# Rabid Wookie (4)
# rltfam (4)
# Solamar (2)
# stolt (6)
# StyxParadox (8)
# tgsparkey (1)
# widjayaman (9)

 
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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
Here's a link to the final want lists:

http://home.earthlink.net/~anglotiger/tts_wants.txt

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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
Here's a link to the results:

http://home.earthlink.net/~anglotiger/tts_results_final.txt

Jeff will provide the formatted version when he gets back in.

PLEASE NOTE: The results are now official.

You may send out trade requests whenever you're ready. It doesn't matter which side sends out the request, so don't wait for the other person to do it...

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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
Some stats:

292 people took part.
259 people successfully submitted their wants on time.
231 people made at least one trade.

34.9% of all items traded (that includes withdrawn items)

Taking into account only the items that had want lists submitted, the percentage traded is still 34.9%

789 items are changing hands.
 
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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
Here's a request list for the event: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/37861
 
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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
I really need to jump in and mod one of these... Maybe I can get someone experienced to do one with me my first time.
 
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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
anglotiger wrote:

Open for posting games: Saturday, December 27th (10am) to Tuesday, December 29th (10pm)

Want list submission period: Ends on Wednesday, December 30th (10pm) - no extensions!


Tuesday is the 30th, Wednesday the 31st...

Hope you meant the day rather than the date because I'm not getting back until Monday night :-\
 
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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
Thanks Scott - it's the 30th. It's silly to have it close on New Year's Eve. But you'll be able to submit any time that you want (even before the submission period closes).
 
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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
Can't add items FYI.

 
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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
You can't add items until the 27th.
 
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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
Can you provide a link to the new OLWLG location? It has changed since the last Math Trade. I was able to follow the instructions to reacquire the new link, but is this the procedure everyone will need to follow (and if so, you should indicate this)? Or do people previously registered with the old location simply need to use the new location's link (if so, the updated location should be provided)? Thanks!
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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
I went to the "old" OLWLG url and it gave me a link to the "new" url.
 
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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
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I went to the "old" OLWLG url and it gave me a link to the "new" url.


Didn't work for me.
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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
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I went to the "old" OLWLG url and it gave me a link to the "new" url.


Didn't work for me.


Define "didn't work" and maybe someone can help you out.

The new URL for this particular trade is here: http://bgg.activityclub.org/olwlg/viewlist.cgi?listid=37677&...

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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
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pekin2121 wrote:
dcorban wrote:
I went to the "old" OLWLG url and it gave me a link to the "new" url.


Didn't work for me.


Define "didn't work" and maybe someone can help you out.

The new URL for this particular trade is here: http://bgg.activityclub.org/olwlg/viewlist.cgi?listid=37677&...



I just couldn't use the "old" link. The one you listed works though!
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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
The link above is for one person.

You can get your own personal link by doing the following:

1) Follow this link - http://bgg.activityclub.org/olwlg/bgglogin.cgi

2) Enter your BGG name and click on "Send Now".

3) You will receive a GeekMail containing your own personal link to the new OLWLG.
 
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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
Am I missing something? I don't see a "add item" link for adding games to the actual math trade like in previous MT's...
 
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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
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Am I missing something? I don't see a "add item" link for adding games to the actual math trade like in previous MT's...

Yes, you are missing the part where you read the subject line of this thread.
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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
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Am I missing something? I don't see a "add item" link for adding games to the actual math trade like in previous MT's...

Yes, you are missing the part where you read the subject line of this thread.


There are 20 items already on the list....still don't know what you are talking about. I've participated in several MT's and not sure why this one is different?
 
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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
pekin2121 wrote:
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Am I missing something? I don't see a "add item" link for adding games to the actual math trade like in previous MT's...

Yes, you are missing the part where you read the subject line of this thread.


There are 20 items already on the list....still don't know what you are talking about. I've participated in several MT's and not sure why this one is different?


The MT doesn't open until the 27th. The items you see are the moderator's items.
 
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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
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pekin2121 wrote:
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Am I missing something? I don't see a "add item" link for adding games to the actual math trade like in previous MT's...

Yes, you are missing the part where you read the subject line of this thread.


There are 20 items already on the list....still don't know what you are talking about. I've participated in several MT's and not sure why this one is different?


The MT doesn't open until the 27th. The items you see are the moderator's items.


That's what I thought but "ddsmith" added the last 2 games and "anglotiger" states games can be added now until Tuesday. I guess I'll have to be patient.
 
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"anglotiger" states games can be added now until Tuesday. I guess I'll have to be patient.


Actually it states that games can be added on Saturday. Want list submissions are Tuesday.
 
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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Starts December 27th...
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That's what I thought but "ddsmith" added the last 2 games and "anglotiger" states games can be added now until Tuesday. I guess I'll have to be patient.


(a) ddsmith was able to add during a brief period where I mistakenly had the list oopen to additions. I could have deleted them but decided to not bother.

(b) You're reading instructions for an unsubmitted GeekList. No-one was supposed to even have the link but then someone went ahead and published it here. So "now" refers to the point where the GeekList is published on BGG, not when someone was able to find a link to it by going through the OLWLG...

I hope that clears up your confusion.

That being said, because I have the time, we're opening a day early...
 
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Re: 'Tis The Season - Math Trade Discussion Thread. Now through December 30th!
You mean we can add submissions now?
 
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