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David Reed
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I'm planning a trip to Eastern Europe (Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic and Slovakia) this summer. While the primary purpose is to see the sites and go somewhere that I have never been before, I am thinking that I might be able to visit a store or two along the way.

The major cities I'll be visiting are Warsaw, Krakow, Budapest, and Prague (I may be forgetting one or two). I would
really be interested in finding information about gamestores in these cities (both board and software). Since this is my first trip to the European mainland, any advice would be welcome.
 
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Hi,
Don't expect much in Poland (in terms of board game stores). The market here just does not exist. There are something like 3 or 4 games printed in Poland now and people just do not realize that gaming can be interesting when you are over 10 years old. We are working on it (the community web site is www.gry-planszowe.pl), but with little progress so far. The only board gaming shop in the country is in Gdansk, and has a web page (www.rebel.pl). Computer games is different thing - you'll find lots of shops.

Czech Republic is completely different story. Many shops, good choice, nice prices. Look here for addresses:
http://www.hrajeme.cz/Hrajeme/StaticText.aspx?id=PRODEJNY_AL...

Slovakia should be OK too (some addresses on the above Czech website).

Don't know anything about Hungary (except that it is an amazingly beautifull country and I love it for many reasons), but expect the situation to be similar to the one in Poland.

Greetings from Poland (Warsaw)
Jacek
 
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Hi David

I was in Prague last month. Several of the large bookstores in the new town area also have quite good selections of German games. The only specialist shop I found though was Hras, Jungmanova 8, Praha 1, which is fairly central. When I visited I was told that they were moving to new premises even nearer the centre, so you may have to check their new address. I thought the prices were quite expensive though, so don't expect any bargains!

Paul
 
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Hi there,

In Hungary lots of games are published in Hungarian. These you can easily find in big supermarkets like Tesco or Auchan. I don't know about US prices but they are cheaper than in the UK. I'm talking about the likes of Tikal, San Marco, Catan and expansions, LOTR, etc. If you visit Budapest you might want to check out the site of silverland.hu which is a decent games shop but more expensive than supermarkets. And one more thing: DO NOT expect bargains here!

Good luck!

 
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Thanks for the rapid responses!
I'm sorry to hear that games are hard to find in Poland. I remember a time when it was like that in the United States (yes, I'm old) - both for strategy games of American origin, and later for games of European origin (once we Americans figured out that there were excellent titles coming out of Europe). I also remember when games were viewed as exclusively a children's market in the United States. In a way, this is still the predominent social view - adult strategy gamers are always going to be a minority, I fear. Games have become more readily available in the United States (and being able to order titles on-line helps a bunch - though there is a lot to be said for the ability to hold a box in your hands and heft the box...)

I hope that there will be a time soon when games will be more readily available in Poland.

So, the next question is prompted by your mention that computer games are easy to find in Poland. Does this extend to computer ports of board games (like the Koch port of Carcassonne)?
 
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I was there a couple years ago and I was surprised to find some decent games on the shelf of a local Hypermart. I recall seeing copies of Tikal and Die Maulwurf Company, but I know there were others there, as well.
 
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I hope that there will be a time soon when games will be more readily available in Poland.
I'm sure they will. After all board games make a fantastic product and Poland is potentially a big market so eventually there must be some vendor ready to invest here. There is one local company that starts to print FFG silver line games now (Drakon, Arena Maximus, Lost Cities already printed) but they probably do not sell so well as we all would like.

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So, the next question is prompted by your mention that computer games are easy to find in Poland. Does this extend to computer ports of board games (like the Koch port of Carcassonne)?
I really have no idea. I'm not very interested in computer gaming.

And a word of explanation about the "nice prices" from my previous post. I find prices in Prague quite nice compared to other ways of buying games available to me. So sorry if this confused anybody.
 
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One can find gameshops in almost every mall (eg. Mammut, Westend etc) (supermarkets are pretty far from the downtown). They are dealing primarly with kid games, but they have boardgames as well. No bargains, that is true.
 
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See the following geeklist for games available in Hungary:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist.php3?action=view&listi...

Prices are generally significantly higher than ordering from a German online store, but some games can be very reasonably priced. Quite a few games are sold in Hungarian-language versions - Settlers of Catan & expansions, Carcassonne, Domaine, Lord of the Rings, Munchkin.
 
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I visited the Czech Republic last summer and there weren't that many games to be found. And it was one of the bigger cities (Hradec Kralove).

But visiting Eastern Europe isn't about games! It's about beauty! I want to go back....
 
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All,

I shouldn't really have to point this out d10-1d10-5 years after the fall of the Berlin Wall (have you been snore ?), but none of these countries (Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland and Slovakia) are "Eastern European". I can understand that "Eastern Europe" was a convenient label for the Soviet Empire sauron, but hey, that's history and since last May these countries have been part of the European Union. Just take a look at a map and you'll find that Prague is west of Vienna, so its a geographical nonsense to call it Eastern European blush.

I use the term Central Europe, which has some pedigree (Prague and Budapest were just as much part of the Mitteleuropa of the 19th century as Vienna and Berlin) and maintains a distinction with countries to the West (older EU members) and East (not yet EU members).
 
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I'm sorry, but I can't see the problem. It's as much East as it is Central. Just like we (The Netherlands) are West as much as North. Just as Greece is East and South. No matter how you call it, it's just a matter of naming a group of countries. I can't see the involvement of the SU here. You shouldn't be offended.
 
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Its only because of the Soviet Union, that these countries (Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland and Slovakia) were ever called "Eastern European". Before, they were regarded as being in Central Europe. Nowadays, "Eastern Europe" is generally used to describe Russia, Ukraine and Belarus. If you call Czech Republic "Eastern European" you are suggesting a geographical link with those countries which doesn't exist. It's something like calling Netherlands "Scandinavian". Or, if you call Prague "Eastern European" then why not Berlin too?

If you need a term for the 4 countries in question, there is one that they sometimes use themselves: the Visegrad countries.
 
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Since geographically the Eastern border of Europe is the Ural, therefore it is clear that these countries are located in CENTRAL Europe. And they belong to Central Europe not only geographically, but politically, culturally, historicaly etc.
 
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Hi!


I was in Prague this weekend.

Hras new address: Pasáž Rokoko Václavské nám.38 Praha 1.
Beautiful place, some nice games. No bargain.

Near, still at Vaclav square there is a big book-shop (Kanzelsberger, Václavské nám. 4 Praha 1), there are some games in the 3. floor (if I remember correctly). The selection almost the same as in Hras, mosty Albi's game, either in Czech (like Catan, Carcassonne*), or German games with Czech rules in the box**. Yeah, no bargain too.

I was - just to see what kind game they sell - a Tesco in Prague... well, go to Hras or this bookshop, cos' there is no selection.



These the games you'll find - most probably:

* Carcassonne, 1. Expansion, Trader & Builder, Hunters & Gatherers, C. - Burg; Catan, Cities & Knights, Seafahrer, Catan card game; Halali, Citadels, Bang! )

** Coloretto, Elfenland, Kahuna, Ligretto, Mamma Mia, Puerto Rico, San Juan, Sank Petersburg, Amun Re, Atlantic Star, Attika, Caesar und Cleopatra, Café Internatial, Drunter & Drüber, Dschunke, Emerald, Expedition, Goa, Hansa, Hare and Tortoise, Java, Kampf der Gladiatoren, Kardinal ung König, Magellan, Manhattan, Paris Paris, Pfeffersäcke, San Marco, Scotland Yard, Tikal, Union Pacific

- those from Albi's catalog, but actually I've seen other games, like Yinsh and its brothers, some Kosmos (Clans, TransAmerica, etc.) or in Hras I've even see some FFG-games (like Doom or aGoT).

I've seen one or two game seemd Czech origin, but didn't feel risking them.

My purchases:
Hras: San Juan 590 Czech crowns***, Yinsh 649
Kanzelsberger: Mamma mia 299, Clans 550

***1 euro is about 28-31 Czech crowns
 
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Well... I've been back for a while. I saw a couple of stores, but the guide was herding us, so I did not get to go inside. I saw Settlers, Carcassone and some titles I did not recognize in a Tesco in Slovakia (next to a gas station we stopped at).
 
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