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Please note - while this will be run with the math trade software, unlike in a math trade here every item added to this trade WILL be traded. By entering an item in this trade, you are committing to trade it regardless of what you're receiving.

Please read the details below, but for those who want the brief details - enter up to three games, or groups of games, each with a value of $10 or more. Then use the OLWLG to enter values for the offerings that interest you. You will receive some other game or group of games for every item you list.

Please do not enter items unless you will be at Unity Games 17, will be able to distribute your offerings by 2PM (using the same method as the math trade), and will be able to pick up your winnings after 2PM.


Important!
For this math trade priorities will be submitted only by using the OLWLG (online wantlist generator/editor) ... you may want to make sure you can login to that tool (no password required) if you haven't already.

"Unity Games 17 Yankee Game Swap" .......
Unity Games XVII (17) - Open Gaming Convention
Woburn, MA (not far outside Boston)
Sat. Jan. 29th, 2010 - 9am to Midnight
http://www.unitygames.org/ugxvii/ugxvii.htm
Only $12.50 until up til 2 weeks before, then $20 at at the door (space permitting so pre-paying highly recommended!)

Related Geeklist: Unity Games 17 Yankee Game Swap

Deadlines:
Submissions (including sweeteners): Wednesday, January 19th, 8pm Eastern Time
Valuations due: Friday, January 21st, 8pm Eastern Time
Results posted: almost immediately thereafter

Limits: (per person)
* Max of 3 offerings of boardgames or boardgaming items (such as a dice tower), each with a value of $10 or more. Geekgold and gift certificates are not allowed. Videogames and RPGs are not allowed.

What is a Yankee Game Swap:
* A Yankee Game Swap is a way to trade unwanted games for other games. This uses the same mechanisms and software as a math trade, but the only thing you have to specify is which items you'd like to receive - and optionally how much you want those items. Every offering you make will trade. Jeff has modified the OLWLG so that you only need to select the items that interest you. You may choose an ordering among the items that interest you; priorities will be used to try to find the best set of trades, so it is to your advantage to do so. Every item will be on your want list; the items you don't check as wanted will simply have a lower priority. The math trade software will then be run to try to make everyone as happy as possible.

Rules:
* You must be either attending UG-17 or know someone who is that will be your proxy as all game deliveries are being done at the convention (ie. no shipping costs!). (If using a proxy, please specify the proxy in your entries.)

* Since every item will trade, please only enter offerings if you will be able to drop of the games you are trading by 2PM, and pick up your winnings after that time.

* All offerings should have a value of $10 or more. No incomplete copies of Candyland, please.

* If offering more than one item as a lot, use either the GAMEID formatting or a link to the game's page (this will look like http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/8989). If you don't use this format these items won't show up in the OLWLG properly.

* Please try to accurately describe the condition of your offerings.

* Only complete games in good condition or better are allowed.

* I reserve the right to remove games from the list for whatever reason (though unlikely). If you are on the bad traders list, your games will be removed

By posting an entry on this list, you agree to abide both by the general math trade guidelines and by those specific to this math trade.

Trade Resolver: TradeMaximizer
* NO Duplicate Protection
* Linear Priorities

Note: Only errors by the moderator will invalidate the results.

Note: There is no request geeklist. This is _NOT_ the place to specifically try to acquire games, but an opportunity to trade the games you don't want for other games.
 
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Re: Unity Games 17 Yankee Game Swap
TradeMaximizer Version 1.4a
Options: ALLOW-DUMMIES REQUIRE-COLONS REQUIRE-USERNAMES SHOW-ELAPSED-TIME EXPLICIT-PRIORITIES

Input Checksum: 7e73d332c137e4a859f4717055a19711
ERRORS:
**** Unknown item MISSING-OFFICIAL-1543989!! (3 occurrences)

TRADE LOOPS (17 total trades):

(HUBER) 0001-THRON receives (TSUK) 0006-DARJE
(TSUK) 0006-DARJE receives (TMREDDEN) 0010-PKSHHKOTPC
(TMREDDEN) 0010-PKSHHKOTPC receives (LUCE) 0012-WYR
(LUCE) 0012-WYR receives (KOSTAS) 0002-ACQUI
(KOSTAS) 0002-ACQUI receives (JEFFYJEFF) 0016-TIGHT
(JEFFYJEFF) 0016-TIGHT receives (RERIC) 0017-ZSE
(RERIC) 0017-ZSE receives (HUBER) 0004-BALI
(HUBER) 0004-BALI receives (TMREDDEN) 0009-MOTM
(TMREDDEN) 0009-MOTM receives (LUCE) 0011-SENSAY
(LUCE) 0011-SENSAY receives (MATTGO) 0013-LEODV
(MATTGO) 0013-LEODV receives (HUBER) 0001-THRON

(MATTGO) 0003-BATTL receives (TSUK) 0005-WARRAL
(TSUK) 0005-WARRAL receives (RERIC) 0015-CARCH
(RERIC) 0015-CARCH receives (TSUK) 0007-TEMPUS
(TSUK) 0007-TEMPUS receives (MATTGO) 0014-ABALO
(MATTGO) 0014-ABALO receives (TMREDDEN) 0008-EWFTT
(TMREDDEN) 0008-EWFTT receives (MATTGO) 0003-BATTL

ITEM SUMMARY (17 total trades):

(HUBER) 0001-THRON receives (TSUK) 0006-DARJE and sends to (MATTGO) 0013-LEODV
(HUBER) 0004-BALI receives (TMREDDEN) 0009-MOTM and sends to (RERIC) 0017-ZSE
(JEFFYJEFF) 0016-TIGHT receives (RERIC) 0017-ZSE and sends to (KOSTAS) 0002-ACQUI
(KOSTAS) 0002-ACQUI receives (JEFFYJEFF) 0016-TIGHT and sends to (LUCE) 0012-WYR
(LUCE) 0011-SENSAY receives (MATTGO) 0013-LEODV and sends to (TMREDDEN) 0009-MOTM
(LUCE) 0012-WYR receives (KOSTAS) 0002-ACQUI and sends to (TMREDDEN) 0010-PKSHHKOTPC
(MATTGO) 0003-BATTL receives (TSUK) 0005-WARRAL and sends to (TMREDDEN) 0008-EWFTT
(MATTGO) 0013-LEODV receives (HUBER) 0001-THRON and sends to (LUCE) 0011-SENSAY
(MATTGO) 0014-ABALO receives (TMREDDEN) 0008-EWFTT and sends to (TSUK) 0007-TEMPUS
(RERIC) 0015-CARCH receives (TSUK) 0007-TEMPUS and sends to (TSUK) 0005-WARRAL
(RERIC) 0017-ZSE receives (HUBER) 0004-BALI and sends to (JEFFYJEFF) 0016-TIGHT
(TMREDDEN) 0008-EWFTT receives (MATTGO) 0003-BATTL and sends to (MATTGO) 0014-ABALO
(TMREDDEN) 0009-MOTM receives (LUCE) 0011-SENSAY and sends to (HUBER) 0004-BALI
(TMREDDEN) 0010-PKSHHKOTPC receives (LUCE) 0012-WYR and sends to (TSUK) 0006-DARJE
(TSUK) 0005-WARRAL receives (RERIC) 0015-CARCH and sends to (MATTGO) 0003-BATTL
(TSUK) 0006-DARJE receives (TMREDDEN) 0010-PKSHHKOTPC and sends to (HUBER) 0001-THRON
(TSUK) 0007-TEMPUS receives (MATTGO) 0014-ABALO and sends to (RERIC) 0015-CARCH

Num trades = 17 of 17 items (100.0%)
Total cost = 5045 (avg 296.76)
Num groups = 2
Group sizes = 11 6
Sum squares = 157
Elapsed time = 16ms

Formatted results can be seen at: http://bgg.activityclub.org/olwlg/trades-summary.cgi?listid=...
 
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Reversed.
 
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huber wrote:
Important!
For this math trade priorities will be submitted only by using the OLWLG (online wantlist generator/editor) ... you may want to make sure you can login to that tool (no password required) if you haven't already.
Just to clarify for folks that are concerned about having to learning to use the OLWLG... the above is boiler plate for math trades... for this Yankee Swap you only need to use the OLWLG if you wish to rank your preferences for what you may get (it's still possible you'll get something you haven't marked as preferred) ... otherwise simply having your offering in the corresponding geeklist is all you need to do to participate.

huber wrote:
Reversed.
Just noticed your 2nd reserved reply is reversed
 
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So i'm still pretty new to OLWLG. How do you mark games as preferred? Do I just add the ones i'm interested to my want list? Do I add everything to my list and then number them all?
 
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Reric wrote:
So i'm still pretty new to OLWLG. How do you mark games as preferred? Do I just add the ones i'm interested to my want list? Do I add everything to my list and then number them all?
yes, "add" in step 3 your "preferred" ones... putting "values" into the olwlg only overrides the default ordering for you... for your preferred ones they will be treated as if LINEAR "priorities" are being used... for everything else they will all be ranked equally with edge cost of 4999.
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JeffyJeff wrote:
Reric wrote:
So i'm still pretty new to OLWLG. How do you mark games as preferred? Do I just add the ones i'm interested to my want list? Do I add everything to my list and then number them all?
yes, "add" in step 3 your "preferred" ones... putting "values" into the olwlg only overrides the default ordering for you... for your preferred ones they will be treated as if LINEAR "priorities" are being used... for everything else they will all be ranked equally with edge cost of 4999.
so does putting values on them actually change things in regards to what I may get? My initial plan was to go through add all the games I have some interest in getting to my list and then rank them such taht I give a ten to the ones I really want, a 5 to the ones that are in between and then a 1 to the games that i'm not super interested in but would still rather get over the games I didn't add to my want list.
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See TradeMaximizer for how it works

Bottom line.. this is *not* a math trade... expect all your items to go to someone else and for you to receive an equal number of items from others. If you get something you prefer then consider yourself lucky just like in a real yankee swap
 
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I don't want to be the Trade Gestapo here, but does Relationship Tightrope count as "$10 and up" value when it's been blown out on Tanga many times for like a buck or so?

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Legomancer wrote:
I don't want to be the Trade Gestapo here, but does Relationship Tightrope count as "$10 and up" value when it's been blown out on Tanga many times for like a buck or so?
Dave, first of all you are clearly misrepresenting the offering... it's not just Tightrope but part of a bundle.

Second of all the rule is clear, and I talked to Joe about this last year before I put in another item last year... it's not how much someone has paid for the item, it's "value" of $10. But for what it's worth I did pay $6/copy on Tanga on Dec. 13, 2006. As for current value (of a new in shrink copy) it's across the board... it's $9.74 at Boards&Bits, $10.99 at Troll&Toad, and surprising lowest price at Funagain for $6...

... which is why I offered it with a sweetener...

"Lord of the Rings: The Duel"

This in and of itself is a $10+ game selling for $17 at coolstuff and similar at others, but only $7 at of all places Troll&Toad. I put Tightrope as the "main" geeklist item because it is rated/ranked higher... if it makes you happy I can reverse main and sweetener

So combined it's clearly $10+ value.

If anything the bigger problem for me is a couple of the offerings are party games, poorly rated as well, but I did do a quick check and they too meet the rules on value so if I end up with them I end up with them.
 
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ps: there was no need to reply "done" to the geeklist item... Dave you are a veteran math trader and user of the OLWLG

pss: so I see your offering also has Tanga ties

psss: I emailed Joe as it's his yankee swap (remember folks this is not a "trade" we are just using the same tools) if he wants me to withdraw it
 
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My offering did not come from Tanga, Jeff, and at any rate, I have removed it from the trade. Best of luck to everyone trading.
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JeffyJeff wrote:
Legomancer wrote:
I don't want to be the Trade Gestapo here, but does Relationship Tightrope count as "$10 and up" value when it's been blown out on Tanga many times for like a buck or so?
Dave, first of all you are clearly misrepresenting the offering... it's not just Tightrope but part of a bundle.

Second of all the rule is clear, and I talked to Joe about this last year before I put in another item last year... it's not how much someone has paid for the item, it's "value" of $10. But for what it's worth I did pay $6/copy on Tanga on Dec. 13, 2006. As for current value (of a new in shrink copy) it's across the board... it's $9.74 at Boards&Bits, $10.99 at Troll&Toad, and surprising lowest price at Funagain for $6...

I don't know enough about The Duel's value as a sweetener to comment.. but I will say, I'm totally with Legomancer on this one in that Relationship Tightrope has almost zero value on the Geek. I've given it away as a gag-gift for heaven's sake, it's reputation is so low (deservedly so, I played it once... awful game with misogynist artwork in a tampon-package color scheme). In the Unity auction Geeklist, it was given away for free. The most I think anyone could rightly value this at is $1. Doesn't matter what the retailers are doing, I'm sure one could create a list of 100 items that at the online retailers are priced way above their value as perceived by the general BGG community.

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JeffyJeff wrote:
Legomancer wrote:
I don't want to be the Trade Gestapo here, but does Relationship Tightrope count as "$10 and up" value when it's been blown out on Tanga many times for like a buck or so?
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... which is why I offered it with a sweetener...

"Lord of the Rings: The Duel"

This in and of itself is a $10+ game selling for $17 at coolstuff and similar at others, but only $7 at of all places Troll&Toad. I put Tightrope as the "main" geeklist item because it is rated/ranked higher... if it makes you happy I can reverse main and sweetener

So combined it's clearly $10+ value.

If anything the bigger problem for me is a couple of the offerings are party games, poorly rated as well, but I did do a quick check and they too meet the rules on value so if I end up with them I end up with them.
Again, what the online retailers have something priced at does not equate to its actual value on the Geek. Currently the Duel is selling for as low as $2 in the BGG marketplace.in Like New condition, and $4 in New condition.

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Bob, where's your item(s) in the yankee swap? In any case even though you are in the side lines I'll still respond....

LordBobbio wrote:
Again, what the online retailers have something priced at does not equate to its actual value on the Geek. Currently the Duel is selling for as low as $2 in the BGG marketplace.in Like New condition, and $4 in New condition.
Again? The rules do *not* say anything about "actual value on the Geek"... however as you point out LotR:TD is being offered apparently (I didn't check) for $4 in new condition like mine is (another one is asking $5 for new)...

If the BGG marketplace is going to be your gauge then go and see what your lowest price is for Tightrope in the marketplace new in shrink.... one copy is in there for $5, next lowest is $6.

Add those two up together and it's $9 to $11 value... not even factoring in the shipping charges if you were to try to buy those from the BGG marketplace.

If we are going to pick apart each offering... usually same arguments, 2008 edition Acquire was sold in vast quantities for $1 per copy at Barnes and Nobles annual clearance sale (I picked up a couple myself that I've since traded away)... but again it's not what folks paid for an item.
 
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I unfortunately and unexpectedly ended up without a computer most of today (and trying to get things working again the rest of the day); sorry for the delayed reply.

There is a difficulty in assigning a clear value to items, other that perhaps using the amount games have been sold for recently (or perhaps offered for, though that's often likely to be high). In the case in question - well, I wouldn't have offered that combination (and I could have, having copies of both games, if not for trade purposes). But, not having given a requirement to look at the value, my decision is:

* Allowed. However, I would _suggest_ adding one more comparable game to the mix.

And - if I don't get an item I'm actually interested in for one or both of my offerings, and the person who gets Jeff's offering prefers what I got, I will swap.
 
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For what it's worth, I discussed this with Joe that one problem with doing a yankee swap this way (separate from that some folks apparently don't have experience with real world yankee swaps) is that everyone gets to see what is in the "swap" before hand....

in a real world yankee swap all offerings are usually wrapped, and also anonymous so you don't know who brought what. What I suggested for a possible 3rd try at this next year is to mimic that by not having the offerings go public into a geeklist... instead all offerings can go in via another mechanism (I can add something to the olwlg or offerings can be emailed to the yankee swap organizer, etc)... then once the offerings are locked in everyone is able to see what is being offered and we do as we are doing now... you indicate your preferences and trademax is run.

Two parts however that doesn't mimic a real world yankee swap are...

1. you can't end up with your own item back

2. what you "open" you can't swap with anything that's already been opened

I (or someone else) could easily write software so mimic a real YS is we thought it was worth the effort. We are all assigned a random pick order from 1 to N (number of items offered), 1 picks an offering to open that everyone then can see (electronically), 2 goes and picks one to "open" and has the option to trade what they opened with 1, and so on .... then 1 who had no choice to change then can change for anything (ie. they get their pick of anything)
 
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huber wrote:
* Allowed. However, I would _suggest_ adding one more comparable game to the mix.
Will consider though....

huber wrote:
And - if I don't get an item I'm actually interested in for one or both of my offerings, and the person who gets Jeff's offering prefers what I got, I will swap.
.... same offer for anyone else like myself who has no interest in poorly rated/ranked party games? Or other games just so poorly rated/ranked (5 are ranked 3,000 or worse)...

I admit I waited to see what was being offered up until today to decide what I was going to offer. With those 5 offerings I'd really be stuck with I did not offer anything I had only one of in the trade closet. *However* I did specifically make the effort to offer something decent (Tightrope is a good game... I played the original German edition and was very happy when Uberplay reprinted it and everyone I've taught it to has liked it... and it used to be even much more highly ranked, at least as high as 312, see http://tinyurl.com/4buxzp8 and while I haven't played my own copy of LotR:TD yet as a Strategy Game it's ranked 646 here on BGG) as well as fairly valued at the $10 target...

... which it is using even Bob's lowest priced copies in the BGG marketplace.

I had considered a larger bundle of games ranked just as low as some of the other stuff in this swap like:

Lift Off
Auf & Ab
Word Jam
Geek Wars Battle for the Con Deck 1...
Fightball
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which combined would have far exceeded the $10 target but would have been a bundle of crap.
 
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My offering did not come from Tanga, Jeff
And neither did my 1st copy of Relationship Tightrope... I bought it soon after it was released since copies of the original edition were both hard to come by and pricy. And LotR:TD didn't come from Tanga either.

Legomancer wrote:
... and at any rate, I have removed it from the trade. Best of luck to everyone trading.
Out of curiosity why?
 
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Also for what it's worth, last year when Joe 1st proposed a yankee (then called turkey) swap I did offer up something I could have done with the OLWLG to make sure any offerings that "no one" wants end up traded....

I could set it up (but too late for this year) so that at least one person (and the OLWLG won't let the owning person "add" their own stuff) in step 3 needs to add a given item in order for it to trade.

However that could back fire as there could be very few "preferred" items in this and any yankee swap so more than 1/2 the items may not trade.
 
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Sorry again - today isn't what I'd expected it to be. I've locked down the geeklist; everyone can submit their preference list at any point.

And sure, Jeff - if I get something(s) I don't want, I'll swap them for anything. (And, for those curious, there are five items I'm interested in, and ten I'm less interested in; I'll be happy to trade any of the 10 around.)
 
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JeffyJeff wrote:
Bob, where's your item(s) in the yankee swap? In any case even though you are in the side lines I'll still respond....

LordBobbio wrote:
Again, what the online retailers have something priced at does not equate to its actual value on the Geek. Currently the Duel is selling for as low as $2 in the BGG marketplace.in Like New condition, and $4 in New condition.
Again? The rules do *not* say anything about "actual value on the Geek"... however as you point out LotR:TD is being offered apparently (I didn't check) for $4 in new condition like mine is (another one is asking $5 for new)...

If the BGG marketplace is going to be your gauge then go and see what your lowest price is for Tightrope in the marketplace new in shrink.... one copy is in there for $5, next lowest is $6.

Add those two up together and it's $9 to $11 value... not even factoring in the shipping charges if you were to try to buy those from the BGG marketplace.

If we are going to pick apart each offering... usually same arguments, 2008 edition Acquire was sold in vast quantities for $1 per copy at Barnes and Nobles annual clearance sale (I picked up a couple myself that I've since traded away)... but again it's not what folks paid for an item.
JeffyJeff, I don't feel I need to participate in the Yankee swap to comment on it... it's happening in a public forum/Geeklist on the Geek, than it's something that interests me as a BGG member. If you don't like people commenting on what you are doing through the Geek who aren't directly involved, than conduct your affairs through private messages. Do it publicly, expect some folks to comment from the sidelines. It's how these things work.

Fair enough about some copies of Relationship Tightrope being currently listed at the $5 range. True also for some copies of LoTR: The Duel, and sure, you've arrived at the $10 minimum. Minimum mind you, but you've technically achieved it, yes.

My comment was more about your relying on the online retailers to explain your value assessment than about the actual value of your items. And yes, technically there is nothing in the rules for the swap that states "of a value of $10 based on what one could reasonably expect to sell something for on the Geek", so even if no evidence existed for the values of Relationship Tightrope and The Duel being valued perhaps as high as $10 (technically, I guess you've proven that there is), then you could still refer to the online retailers.

It just seems the spirit of such a swap would suggest everyone offer an item that is sort of you know, unquestionably of a value of $10.... by whatever reasonable yardstick one would use... and since there are multiple yardsticks, you'd expect people who are follwing the spirit of the thing (and not just the technically permissible limits) to want to make sure they've satisfied all the most obvious yardsticks. I can't blame Legomancer for finding your offering a bit underwhelming and perhaps a stretch with the goal of "squeaking by" the rules of the thing. Perhaps you did, and he's wrong, and so am I... I can't say you didn't meet the rules, because, well, it looks you can make a case for having done so.
 
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Re: Unity Games 17 Yankee Game Swap
Want lists in, results posted. Thanks to everyone for participating!

(And, for those curious - both of the items I got were ones I was interested in - so I'm less interested in trading them. But if anyone's really unhappy with what they got, let me know - I'll see if there's something else I could swap...)
 
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