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Sicaria Occaeco
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Next week is Ground Hog Day. Spring is my favorite season and I can't hardly wait. Another thing I can't wait for is another math trade. I can't do anything about the Ground Hog's shadow, at least not without getting arrested. However I can do something about the math trade, so I'm running my first one here.


Request GeekList: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/63766
Trade GeekList: http://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/63765
Discussion: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/6188223

Use of the On-Line Want List Generator (OLWLG) is required for this event (please remember to tip JeffyJeff some GG for his support).

Key dates (all times are MOUNTAIN TIME)

Open for posting games: Friday, January 28th until Wednesday, February 2nd (10pm)

Want list submission period: Wednesday , February 2nd (10pm) until Saturday, February 5th (11:30 pm) - no extensions!

Results posted shortly thereafter.


Please do not delete items or sweeteners once you have listed them.
You can always submit a blank want list for an entry if you've traded it away before the deadline.


OK - some simple rules - please take a few minutes to read them:


d10-1 Gift certificates, Geekgold, DVDs, items outside the scope of BGG etc are all permitted.

d10-2 Gift certificate and GG arbitrage are NOT allowed. Neither are cash offerings. If arbitage is found in the preliminary math trades results, the offending items will be removed and the results will be re-run.

d10-3 Non-game entries must be added as "Outside the Scope of BGG" (game id 23953) or "Miscellaneous Game Accessory" (game id 5985) and must include the +altname+ brief description -altname- format in the description of your item.

d10-4 You are expected to describe, as accurately as is reasonably possible, the condition (components and box), language and edition of your item in the description. This includes sweeteners if they are physical items (i.e. not GG).

For games not brand new (in shrink) you must inventory the game's components and list anything missing. Do not assume it's complete. Also, remember that just because something is "new in shrink" that doesn't mean that you shouldn't disclose any dings. It might not matter to you, but it matters to some people.

d10-5 For the sake of simplicity, you are required to cover shipping to others in your country. Please take this into account when making up your want lists. You are not required to ship outside of your own country but your shipping restrictions outside of your own country must be clearly stated and if you are not covering full shipping elsewhere, then you must state precisely how much of the shipping you will cover.

Note: Shipping to HI and AK is voluntary for U.S. participants, but recommended.

Any ambiguity shipping abroad will be interpreted as generosity on your part. This means that if you don't include a shipping policy, then it is assumed that you will ship anywhere in the world for free!

d10-6 Sweeteners are to be listed using the "Insert Geek Link" dropdown or you can manually insert the GAMEID using BGG formatting. If you don't use this format your sweeteners won't show up in the OLWLG properly.

d10-7 If you've been reported to me as a bad trader, you cannot participate. If you try to, I will remove your entries.

d10-8 Please do NOT include links to other games in your entry unless you are actually including them as a sweetener, as this is displayed in a misleading manner by the OLWLG.

d10-9 If you feel the need to use them, please keep disclaimers short and to the point so they don't make things hard to read. If you need to use a longer disclaimer, please include a link to it in each of your entries instead of copying the whole thing into each entry - thanks.

d10-1d10-0 Finally - you are expected to periodically check during the item submission period, and preferably during the want list submission period, to see if anyone has commented on your entries. People often ask questions of items - most commonly because you have forgotten to state a version, language or shipping policy - and you should check in to address such questions in a timely manner should they arise, so that everyone then has the correct information available.

You will NOT be able to respond to comments in the GeekList once it is locked down and the submission period begins.

Other useful information


OLWLG Help: http://boardgamegeek.com/wiki/page/OLWLG

Software Used: TradeMaximizer 1.4 with duplicate protection. SEED=1234567, ITERATIONS=100, METRIC=USERS-TRADING


Geekgold restrictions:

Users may not post more geekgold than they currently have. Geekgold arbitrage is not allowed.


Want list submission


Submissions may be made at any time after the 2nd at 10pm, but only by the OLWLG. If you will be unavailable during the want list submission period but still wish to participate, contact me directly and we can discuss alternatives.

Note: only errors by the moderator, will invalidate the results.

Also in the case that there is a problem after the results are posted, at most it will only invalidate the affected trade chain(s) and not the entire results set. In addition if the problem can be resolved by the most directly affected party or parties, then that is perfectly acceptable.

Please note that it's best to work on your want list and submit them early - you can always make changes and resubmit later. This will prevent you from being left out if you forget the deadline.

Also: Creating want lists is not the same as submitting them. To submit them you will need to click on the "Submit My Wants" button. If you're not sure how to find this, consult the documentation referenced above or ask in the discussion thread.


When you submit your want lists, you will receive a confirming GeekMail. If you don't get one, your want lists haven't been submitted. Your want lists in the GeekMail may be truncated - this is fine.

Thanks for reading.

Please enter lots of items and have some fun with this. Good luck!

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Deadline-Offers: Wednesday, February 2nd, 2011, 10:00 PM MST
Deadline-Wants: Saturday, February 5th, 2011, 11:30 PM MST
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Update:

324 users
2739 items

So far it looks like the biggest Math Trade ever!

Submissions are now open so let's see if we can make the most successful trades ever.

 
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Math Trade results are in!

There aren't any problems so these results are official.


Num trades = 631 of 2778 items (22.7%)
Users trading = 266
Users Submitted = 97%
Missing Wants = 8 Users

Don't forget to set your items as for trade for sending out and receiving the trades.



Thanks everyone for making this the biggest math trade ever. Lots of stuff in there.



 
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Reserved
 
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Hooray!! I've been waiting for one of these.
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Thanks Sicaria, I've been hoping for one of these as well!
 
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Since you are allowing everything including the kitchen sink, can you open the Request Geeklist to allow for requests of videogames rather than just board games?
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RoamDog wrote:
Since you are allowing everything including the kitchen sink, can you open the Request Geeklist to allow for requests of videogames rather than just board games?


Should be fixed now.
 
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Wahoo! I just decided to start math tradin', so this'll be my first. Thanks for kicking this off!
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Too bad the OLWLG still doesn't assist with adding video game entries. I really don't feel like manually typing them in. I just went through my collection and have a bunch of GBA, PSone, PS2, Wii, and Gamecube games that I am looking to trade.

My video game want lists are rather short, but I am looking to build a new NES collection. If anyone has a pile of NES games they want to unload, I'm your man.
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Thanks for organizing this!
 
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Thanks for setting this up! I have a whole pile of games I've been waiting to post on a math trade! Woot!
 
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OLWLG requests that mods do not refresh more often than once per hour in order to reduce the load on its servers.
 
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dcorban wrote:

My video game want lists are rather short, but I am looking to build a new NES collection. If anyone has a pile of NES games they want to unload, I'm your man.


Sounds just like what I'm trying to do too. Looking forward to firing up the old NES and dusting off a few of my favorite titles and adding a few of my most wanted ones from my childhood.
 
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Great! I have been looking to make a trade.
 
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MrScaryMuffin wrote:
OLWLG requests that mods do not refresh more often than once per hour in order to reduce the load on its servers.


Yeah, but it has been 6 hours not less than one.
 
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RoamDog wrote:
MrScaryMuffin wrote:
OLWLG requests that mods do not refresh more often than once per hour in order to reduce the load on its servers.


Yeah, but it has been 6 hours not less than one.


On the other hand it's a Friday night.
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Sicaria, I appreciate that you're modding your first MT here but please consider refreshing the OLWLG more frequently. There's nearly 500 items added so far and we can't mark any of them after the first nine.

Remember that some of us don't really use the geeklist to follow the trade. The OLWLG is our primary tool. I for one can't afford big chunks of time to track new items, and instead rely on frequent, brief visits to the OLWLG to check for new items and update my wants.
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King Friday wrote:
Sicaria, I appreciate that you're modding your first MT here but please consider refreshing the OLWLG more frequently. There's nearly 500 items added so far and we can't mark any of them after the first nine.

Remember that some of us don't really use the geeklist to follow the trade. The OLWLG is our primary tool. I for one can't afford big chunks of time to track new items, and instead rely on frequent, brief visits to the OLWLG to check for new items and update my wants.


Seconded
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I thought I didn't know how to work the OLWLG.

This is the first MathTrade I am attempting to participate in, and i was frantically looking for what I had missed, and how to make it update.

Now I feel better, it's not something dumb i had missed.
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Should be updated now. I'll be updating a little more frequently. Just had a long night last night.
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Sicaria wrote:
Should be updated now. I'll be updating a little more frequently. Just had a long night last night.

Thanks for running this.
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Is the trade geeklist checked as a trade geeklist? I don't see it in the trade forum.
 
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YellowLab wrote:
Is the trade geeklist checked as a trade geeklist? I don't see it in the trade forum.


Yup.. it has been in the "trade and auction lists" since yesterday.
 
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Sicaria wrote:
Should be updated now. I'll be updating a little more frequently. Just had a long night last night.


Wait... you went out and had a good time WHILE running a math trade? I'm sure this falls under some "impossible achievement" category. Also see: sacrilege
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