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David Dockter
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Tossed together a survey of Dunnigan designs today;

http://talk.consimworld.com/WebX?14@@.1dd6d36f/258

My favorite top 10 (and comment):

Wacht am Rhein: Helped save my sanity in high school

Russian Civil War: Chaos; as war should be

PanzerBlitz: Helped save my sanity in junior high. First game ever owned.

World War I: Lots of Paths of Glory in this

Empires of the Middle Ages: Epic

Solomons Campaign: An integrated land/air/naval…that works! Totally shocking.

Panzergruppe Guderian: Unknown unit values prior to combat; as war should be

Next War: Ahhh, the good ole days vs the evil empire.

War in Europe: Old timers really talk about this one

Invasion America: Fond memories: great date that started with movie Red Dawn

Interested in what other wargamers favorite Dunnigan designs are - and any good associated stories.


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World War 1, Winter War, Sinai, Napoleon at Waterloo - A few of the light old-style wargames
that Dunnigan really nailed it on. These are really simple games,
but I think he captured about as much as can be done with such a treatment.

Empires Middle Ages, Russian Civil War, Origins, Canadian Civil War -
light, accessible, multi-player games. These were all fun, and playable
by any boardgamers from my era. Origins probably should never be played
in five though - the US is just not in the running.

Jutland - fun to play naval minis within an operation - even without the
minis.

Fifth Corps - I really really liked this design - though playing it was
a lot of effort. Dunnigan's knowledge of the modern land situation lent
this a great deal of credibility.
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Wow, nearly 100 designs (I think the last board wargame he worked out that was not a DG reissue of some kind was Men At Arms, in 1990. He has of course worked in computer wargames since then.).
I think Joe Miranda has surpassed him in volume of output now, but Joe could not have done it without JFD showing the way for all of us.
The height of my designing career so far was sitting next to JFD at the Connections conference in 2011 after making a panel presentation on my COIN work, then he shook my hand and said he liked what I was doing.
Hard to top that!

My JFD top ten, in no particular order:

Minuteman (great inaugural game on insurgency)
Plot to Assassinate Hitler (some ideas here never repeated but should have been)
Russian Civil war (the legend)
Strategy I (follow on from Blitzkrieg Module System)
Lost Battles (this needs a little help but great ideas)
Battle for Germany (genius, designed in 24 hours if the legend is true)
Canadian Civil war (great attempt to 'grok' parliamentary politics)
World War I (again, great ideas)
Berlin 85 (I loved this game on urban combat, great situation)
NATO Division Commander (I admire it, I fear it... it compels me to touch it. Fifth Corps et al. were simplifications of the systems in this Magnificent Octopus.)
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PanzerBlitz
World War 1
Sinai
Battle for Germany
Year of the Rat 1972
Plot to Assassinate Hitler
Fulda Gap
Flying Circus
Frigate
Solomons Campaign

In that order...
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By far my favorite in this group is Napoleon at Waterloo.

The odd thing, however, is that I thought Redmond Simonsen was the designer of the game, not just the artist. I thought I remembered mentions in S&T about Simonsen working on the design.
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"Bulge"(The Big Red One)- a very eloquent small game that can be played in a short evening.
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I will NEVER forget the experience of trying to play 1914 when it came out in 1968. wow surprise

My friend and I were both 15 years old.
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ltmurnau wrote:

NATO Division Commander

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Never could play it with all the rules; still impressed by it decades later.

I still have my copy here in Montreal. whistle
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My favorites are:

Berlin 85: Enemy at the Gates
Fifth Corps
Sinai
Great War in the East
Paratroop
PanzerBlitz
War in the East (1st Edition)
Across Suez
Panzer Armee Afrika
Red Star/White Star

The first five games I have played in the last few years.

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Mallet wrote:


I will NEVER forget the experience of trying to play 1914 when it came out in 1968. wow surprise

My friend and I were both 15 years old.

My game partner and I tried it a few years later in 1973. We were both 12 at the time. Didn't work with us either. I think he still has it in his closet after forty years.

My favorites:

Jutland--still remember crawling around on the floor of my friend's dad's shoe store blocking the customers and having a great time

Panzerblitz--Wow! War at the tactical level is fun!

Empires of the Middle Ages--War at the grand level is fun too!

World War One--brilliant pocket game

Origins of World War Two--long before the arguments over "is it a wargame?" In the Seventies we didn't have such a glut of games that people worried about such things

Napoleon at Waterloo
France 1940
Franco-Prussian War
Oil War
Tannenberg
1914

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Maybe because it was the first SPI game I played, but Sixth Fleet was an enjoyable game for me: air, surface and sub warfare!



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Russian Civil War 1918-1922 (first edition) Beautiful system of modelling chaotic factions
Battle for Germany Clever way to look at the end of the war against Germany
Year of the Rat: Vietnam, 1972 A underrated Vietnam game, and I like Vietnam games.

demerits for
Combined Arms
bad dunnigan, dont do it again.

What I like about him as a designer is he comes with a strong opinion to the subject, puts a central mechanic in to reinforce that opinion then keeps the rest simple.
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Hey, I loved that game - it helped get D&D started... whistle
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Strongly suggest giving Russian Civil War a go. Really fun. Never played Panzergruppe Guderian either. Hopefully it will get reprinted.
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ltmurnau wrote:
NATO Division Commander (I admire it, I fear it... it compels me to touch it. Fifth Corps et al. were simplifications of the systems in this Magnificent Octopus.)

Well said, Sir. I've never been able to put it into words.
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Looking only at the list of Dunnigan games here on BGG, the only ones I remember playing were, in order of enjoyment:

1. Jutland
2. Panzerblitz
3. Outdoor Survival

I owned a copy of 1914 for a while, but never played it.

In my youth I wanted to try Wacht Am Rhein, but never had the chance.

I recently acquired a copy of Jutland, thinking it might be worth trying again. It wasn't. But I might use the maps in 2014 through 2018 for some 200th anniversary games of North Sea operations.
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It's interesting. I am playing through all of SPI's magazine games in order, and of the first two year's games, Dunnigan's are not my favorites. I really like Dave William's designs (Battle of Moscow, Flight of the Goeben, Anzio Beachhead was okay). Of Dunnigan's, Crete was okay, Lost Battles was pretty good, but the rest sucked.

On the other hand, I know he makes a lot more, so I'll see what happens. And I think he did Plot to Assassinate Hitler, which I love.
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panzer6 wrote:
PanzerBlitz
World War 1
Sinai
Battle for Germany
Year of the Rat 1972
Plot to Assassinate Hitler
Fulda Gap
Flying Circus
Frigate
Solomons Campaign

In that order...

Ooo--I'm about to play Flying Circus. It comes out next month
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War in Europe
Panzergruppe Guderian
The Next War
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World War I
World War II: European Theater of Operations, 1939-45
Barbarossa: The Russo-German War 1941-45 the first game with a second movement phase
1914
Napoleon at Waterloo
Napoleon at Waterloo Advanced Game Expansion Kit

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rodvik wrote:
Strongly suggest giving Russian Civil War a go. Really fun.

Gotta agree here. It's no serious wargame - but quite a kick.
Ends up with the kind of backstabbing pleasure that Junta
SHOULD deliver (but somehow doesn't - there's too much incentive
for long-term coalitions).

A bit drier, but CCW is pretty good too.
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Weird. I've only play two, and it happened to be on the same day:

Origins of World War II
Russian Civil War 1918-1922 (first edition)

Both were interesting.

...

Russian Civil War 1918-1922 has been reprinted.

Perhaps someone should reprint/rework Origins of World War II.
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I've played and greatly enjoyed a few Dunnigan titles:

Modern Battles I and II - My first few plays of a real wargame. Simplistic but very enjoyable. Spent many late nights battling out with friends.

Panzerblitz - My sentimental favorite which hooked me into the hobby

The Moscow Campaign - A nice game that first introduced me to the idea of having to constantly manage my supply lines

Panzergruppe Guderian - One of my old favorites. 'untried" unit play injects a new realistic element to battle play.

Is it possible that my intuition is correct? ninja Will Mr. Dunnigan be the next game designer featured on Guns, Dice, and Butter? That would be fantastic!

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The ones i've played/owned:

Great War in the East
Frigate
Korea the Mobile War
Outdoor Survival
Panzergruppe Guderian
Sniper
Wolfpack

I've always wanted to try Wreck of the BSM Pandora as I've heard that's fun.
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BraxtonBragg wrote:


Is it possible that my intuition is correct? ninja Will Mr. Dunnigan be the next game designer featured on Guns, Dice, and Butter? That would be fantastic!


"You must have faith that the future will unfold as it should".

- Spock -

Seriously, I never know who is going to be on Guns until the thing is actually published; very difficult to arrange schedules - life intervenes, etc.

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nhojput wrote:
"Bulge"(The Big Red One)- a very eloquent small game that can be played in a short evening.

This is the first one I thought of, Deceptively simple yet intriguing. Game design stripped down to the essentials.
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